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Posted: 19 Apr 05, 17:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Do you think Queen + PR will have an other setlist for the gigs in July?


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Posted: 19 Apr 05, 18:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

No.

Why bother to play anything original, when there are plenty of people to buy the tickets anyway? It's not like they're doing the tour for artistic reasons anyway...

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Posted: 20 Apr 05, 03:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm afraid- no...
Not many changes so far- why would they do it than...?

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Posted: 20 Apr 05, 03:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Certain songs do lend themselves better to a larger, open air type setting. Songs such as One Vision, Another One Bites the Dust and Now I'm Here will work better in that environment than such songs as '39, Say It's Not True and Last Horizon, which work better in a more intimate setting. Whether they will alter the setlist remains to be seen.


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Posted: 20 Apr 05, 04:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I reaaaaaaaaaaly hope so .. seriously!
I don't think the setlist how it isright now, is first of all a really good one, but second this setlist doesn't work very well in bigger venues like is said before.

I really hope they add Now I'm Here and Headlong .. drop Reachin Out and change the setlist in a more logical order..

but I'm affraid they won't ..

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Posted: 20 Apr 05, 04:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Good point, Hankster, Headlong would work exceptionally well in a larger setting. But would the casual fan recognize it? Actually, who cares? We diehards want Headlong!


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Posted: 20 Apr 05, 05:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think they could easily get away with playing "unknowns" as long as they were such good songs, that people who had never heard them go

Yeah that one song kicked ass!

In my mind Queen has a ton of those
And so does PR

White Man or It's Late for example

For PR, Live For The Music or Rock Steady

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Posted: 20 Apr 05, 05:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think there's a chance since they have a month off (Tromso) and then another month so I say there's plenty time to some rehearse 'new' songs...

TOUR DATES

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14-May-05 The Point, Dublin Ireland
11-Jun-05 Fyllingen, Tromso Norway
02-Jul-05 Estadio Restelo, Lisbon Portugal
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Posted: 20 Apr 05, 06:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm affraid they ain't going to rehearse in that month .. I think they'll take 2 weeks of rest and the last 2 weeks they'll start to play some of the bigger songs of the tour like TYMD and FBG and do the soundcheck songs One Vision and AOBTD just to tie the band more together ....but who know.
I HOPE they will rehearse songs like Headlong and One Vision for reall .. but looking at the tour so far, I get to thinking that the boys don't want to be too risky and just try to play it safe. Just look at the abscence of songs like Innuendo, Headlong, A Beautiful Day and Breakthru..

nah .. this tour doesn't show the courage like they did in the 'Freddie-days'..

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Posted: 20 Apr 05, 06:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hankster wrote:

drop Reachin Out

Why the hell ppl want them to drop the WHOLE 30 SECONDS of it? Not that they gonna play anything instead- it's only a snippet anyway, so what's the problem? They can cut the stage banter- takes pretty much the same time...


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Posted: 20 Apr 05, 06:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hankster wrote:

I'm affraid they ain't going to rehearse in that month .. I think they'll take 2 weeks of rest and the last 2 weeks they'll start to play some of the bigger songs of the tour like TYMD and FBG and do the soundcheck songs One Vision and AOBTD just to tie the band more together ....but who know.
I HOPE they will rehearse songs like Headlong and One Vision for reall .. but looking at the tour so far, I get to thinking that the boys don't want to be too risky and just try to play it safe. Just look at the abscence of songs like Innuendo, Headlong, A Beautiful Day and Breakthru..

nah .. this tour doesn't show the courage like they did in the 'Freddie-days'..

Oh yes- they were very adventurous on MAGIC TOUR...
*roll his eyes*

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Posted: 20 Apr 05, 06:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Fenderek wrote:


Oh yes- they were very adventurous on MAGIC TOUR...
*roll his eyes*


why is everyone always complaining about the Magic-setlist? I think it was the best setlist they ever had;
- the song-order was very good choosen.. One of the best intro-parts Queen ever did (OV, TYMD, Lap of the Gods, Tear It UP) .. and the build-up to Bo.Rap was wonderfull and the encore with WWRY, Friends, WATC was very original
- 4 Queen songs weren't played live before, and plus the 4 covers they played 8 new songs
- The combination of new (MAgic, Vision) and old (Lap of the Gods, Seven Seas) worked very well! better than at the Works Tour for example

Okay .. they played many hits during Magic. But thanks to the Works and Magic they scored many hits in a couple of years, so they had to be played .. you can't blame them for that (only the ppl who bought the singles and made those songs hits :P ).. it's just common sense..
*rolls his eyes*

ow, and Fenderek, .. those 30 seconds are the START of the concert .. one of the most critial moments of the concert.. and I just don't see the point of starting with such a slow song like Reachin Out..
The intro-song has to be rocking, kicking and loud.. VERY loud :D

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Posted: 20 Apr 05, 06:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Beginning with Reaching Out + TYMD is totally Brian's. Listen to the begining of "Back To The Light" record and "Another World" record and tour. Same thing. Even Reaching Out lyrics make perfect sense for such a start.

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Posted: 20 Apr 05, 08:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

it's something Brian would agree with ye .. but Back To The Light is still a rocking song compaired to Reachin Out :P

And besides .. it's Brian descission what to do at his Solo Tour, but this ISN'T a solo tour, this is a Queen Tour. I find it really cool that they call themselves Queen, but then they've to do a setlist that's Queen worthy. Bri&Rog are telling all the time that they think that Freddie would love to see them moving on, and I think they're right .. but I really doubt that Freddie would've agreed to do this opening; Freddie loved a big entrance like WWRY fast .. Flash .. One Vision .. Reachin Out is so NOT Queen-style

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Posted: 20 Apr 05, 08:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I dunno- I thought about Reaching Out almost as an intro to TYMD- thta's the opening, that's when the curtain goes down. And IMO- it works bloody well. What I DO have an issue with is the f***king Eminem. Now that's a thing they should drop!

About MAGIC TOUR- I meant taht a setlist was exactly as stale as it is now. No changes whatsoever. And it wasn't that adventurous, was it... Not everything thay play now are Greatest hits as well, is it... 39, I'm In Love With My Car, Fat Bottomed Girls- they weren't playing them neither during Magic nor WORKS tour. I agree though that more logic in sequence would be welcome- it's NOT a perfect one...

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Posted: 20 Apr 05, 08:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

No offense to anyone, but I think some people are nit-picking here...After 19 years Queen (or whatever you choose to call them) is back, they're giving some damn good concerts, and people are complaining about hearing the "old standards"? You have to remember, they're 20 years older now, and I doubt even Freddie would begin a show with the fast version of WWRY now, considering he'd be almost 60. I WANT the classics...I've never heard them live before. And even though I love dozens of the less well-known songs, there's no way you'll ever find me complaining about hearing "Bohemian Rhapsody" or "TYMD" live. And those of you who HAVE seen Queen before, some of you 25 times or more, this is still your first opportunity in almost two decades to see some of this material performed live. It's just great that they're doing this.

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Posted: 20 Apr 05, 08:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

GregM wrote:

No offense to anyone, but I think some people are nit-picking here...After 19 years Queen (or whatever you choose to call them) is back, they're giving some damn good concerts, and people are complaining about hearing the "old standards"? You have to remember, they're 20 years older now, and I doubt even Freddie would begin a show with the fast version of WWRY now, considering he'd be almost 60. I WANT the classics...I've never heard them live before. And even though I love dozens of the less well-known songs, there's no way you'll ever find me complaining about hearing "Bohemian Rhapsody" or "TYMD" live. And those of you who HAVE seen Queen before, some of you 25 times or more, this is still your first opportunity in almost two decades to see some of this material performed live. It's just great that they're doing this.

Greg

AMEN to that. only if I see 6 or 7 gigs- I would like them to differ just a bit, you know. One or two odd songs.. Just like Pesaro got their Long Away...

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Posted: 20 Apr 05, 09:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Fenderek,

Sure, I can definitely understand that...If you go to several shows, it would be nice to see an odd song change/surprise now and again.

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Posted: 20 Apr 05, 09:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

How many times did they change the setlist during a tour when Freddie was alive.

RIGHT! Rarely!

On the Magic tour there is hardly any change at all, they played Immigrant Song in Germany, and something that was supposed to be Gimme some Loving a few times and thats it.

on this tour Brian threw in Long Away, they added Say it's not True and dropped Seagull. Roger started singing Hammer to Fall with Brian. And the tour just had about 15 shows so far


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Posted: 20 Apr 05, 09:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

GregM wrote:

No offense to anyone, but I think some people are nit-picking here...After 19 years Queen (or whatever you choose to call them) is back, they're giving some damn good concerts, and people are complaining about hearing the "old standards"? You have to remember, they're 20 years older now, and I doubt even Freddie would begin a show with the fast version of WWRY now, considering he'd be almost 60. I WANT the classics...I've never heard them live before. And even though I love dozens of the less well-known songs, there's no way you'll ever find me complaining about hearing "Bohemian Rhapsody" or "TYMD" live. And those of you who HAVE seen Queen before, some of you 25 times or more, this is still your first opportunity in almost two decades to see some of this material performed live. It's just great that they're doing this.

Greg

Ye .. of course they are older and I really love that they play '39 and FBG and stuff .. but my point is; this setlist is the least interesting setlist because of the song-order (for example; FBG at the beginning? .. that's just a wonderfull build-up song for after the accoustic set) .. the accoustic set being too early in the setlist (normally it was always after they played Now I'm Here .. so half way the show) .. and the fact that Now I'm Here is missing, which was at the last couple of tours, a perfect song to let you know you where half way the concert and that soon Bri and Fred would start the accoustic set.

I don't really care if they play AOBTD, UP, Action This Day, Somebody to Love or A Kind of Magic .. hits or non hits .. as long
- it's in a logical order,
- the song will fit Paul's voice (that's the reason why I think from the 5 songs I summed up, AKOM is the only good song)
- The standard Queen songs are in there; TYMD, Bo.Rap. WWRY, WATC, LoML (okay .. so these are in there) AND A GOOD OPENINGS TRACK AND NOW I'M HERE!

Of course it's wonderfull Queen is back on the road again .. with a great frontman (who hasn't enough stage-time!!) .. but the setlist itself really dissappointed me, so I'm very curious if they'll do something about it for the summer-concerts....