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Posted: 21 Apr 05, 10:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I can not believe how many fans are dishing on Paul Rogers. It is great that he is not singing like Freddie, and Freddie would want him to make it his own. If you want the same old thing, stay home and listen to the records.

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Posted: 21 Apr 05, 11:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I have absolutely no problem with Paul Rodgers, he's a great singer. But they should have rehearsed more, I can't believe that even with help of all the monitors with lyrics he still keeps forgetting the words.

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Posted: 21 Apr 05, 11:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yeah totally agree with you freddie's would want him to follow his own lead and just be himself and it maybe a shock statement i'm making but i think freddie would be doing exactly what paul is doing now,but without the strutting and running around don't forget he would be 59 now if still alive.


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Posted: 21 Apr 05, 12:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Paul did a great job in Antwerp yesterday. He's a great singer and he seems like a nice guy to me. Singing all those songs is very hard - even freddie made small mistakes too, even during his best shows.

I'm just very happy that they are on the road again - it has been too long!



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Posted: 21 Apr 05, 14:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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I can not believe how many fans are dishing on Paul Rogers. It is great that he is not singing like Freddie, and Freddie would want him to make it his own. If you want the same old thing, stay home and listen to the records.


The guy should fuck off he's shit. Anyway Queen ended in 1991 RIP.


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Posted: 21 Apr 05, 15:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Atomic Dog wrote:

I can not believe how many fans are dishing on Paul Rogers. It is great that he is not singing like Freddie, and Freddie would want him to make it his own. If you want the same old thing, stay home and listen to the records.


The guy should fuck off he's shit. Anyway Queen ended in 1991 RIP.


NO Queen with freddie ended in 1991 RIP queen without freddie rules 2005 and beyond.


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Posted: 21 Apr 05, 16:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Brenda,
Great reply!!!
It is hard to believe Freddie would be 59.
Freddie would have pushed to change the music and make it new and fresh. Cheers to Queen 2005 and beyind!

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Posted: 21 Apr 05, 16:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ah, agree Brenda, seems like people don`t understand this, but it probably is because of they are using the Queen name. Perhaps Paul don`t run around on stage as Freddie did, but i don`t think Freddie would have done it eiter at the age of 59.
I must confess i had doubts about Paul after the gig at the 46664 concert, but this changed after Brixton i`m pleased to say. Queen+Paul Rodgers rocks! ( Just Queen if Freddie still was alive would have been better, but you have to see the reality of today).




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Posted: 21 Apr 05, 17:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

hi all,
yeah its a bit strange- imagine Freddie in his late 50s standing onstage, singing the old songs..
anyway, i think that Paul is sure doing his best and the true rock (not only Queen) fan should be right behind him.. the guy is the best singer Bri and Rog could choose. cheers, BR


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Posted: 22 Apr 05, 02:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well, I don't think anybody could blame a guy whose wife died 14 years ago for wanting to get married again. So why blame Brian and Roger for wanting to have a new lease of life with Paul on vocals? This is not about betraying Freddie's memory!

Besides that, The Stones are touring withoutBill Wyman, Black Sabbath are touring without Ozzy Osbourne, Deep Purple toured for decades without Ian Gillan, Robert Plant & Jimmy Page are still playing without the other two... and this could go on.

Paul's voice is OK and he reaches the peak by performing WWRY, his performance is awesome... Rogers' drumming is amazing (he's in an incredibly shape), Brian's guitar playing is as good as ever (great solos, btw) and Spike does his best on keyboards. The setlist is a very good selection of songs - and I can't see why so many ppl complain about the fact the setlist doesn't change. As far as I know, the setlist for a tour is supposed to stay the same for all the gigs of that tour. It was a typical setlist for the Magic tour, one for the Hot Space tour and another one for the ANATO tour, and nobody complained :)

As for Paul forgetting the lyrics, I think it's understandable. It's certainly not very easy to sing another band's songs, under the pressure of 14000 ppl in the audience. Freddie forgot the words to Bohemian Rhapsody in 1976 (Osaka, if I remeber well) and to Radio Ga Ga. Roger was completely silly in forgetting more than once the words to I'm In Love With My Car and Happiness. And Brian too, in the later years, when siniging WWRY, sang the third verse instead of the second :) All of them had bad moments throughout the years, got out of pitch, lost their key or forgot lyrics. Except for John - this guy is great, he has never forgotten any lyrics in all his life :)


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Posted: 22 Apr 05, 03:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Bryans Permed Poodle wrote:

Atomic Dog wrote:

I can not believe how many fans are dishing on Paul Rogers. It is great that he is not singing like Freddie, and Freddie would want him to make it his own. If you want the same old thing, stay home and listen to the records.


The guy should fuck off he's shit. Anyway Queen ended in 1991 RIP.


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If it wasn't for Paul Rodgers there would be no tour.


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Posted: 22 Apr 05, 03:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Well, I don't think anybody could blame a guy whose wife died 14 years ago for wanting to get married again. So why blame Brian and Roger for wanting to have a new lease of life with Paul on vocals? This is not about betraying Freddie's memory!

I agree

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Besides that, The Stones are touring withoutBill Wyman, Black Sabbath are touring without Ozzy Osbourne, Deep Purple toured for decades without Ian Gillan, Robert Plant & Jimmy Page are still playing without the other two... and this could go on.

Paul's voice is OK and he reaches the peak by performing WWRY, his performance is awesome... Rogers' drumming is amazing (he's in an incredibly shape), Brian's guitar playing is as good as ever (great solos, btw) and Spike does his best on keyboards. The setlist is a very good selection of songs - and I can't see why so many ppl complain about the fact the setlist doesn't change. As far as I know, the setlist for a tour is supposed to stay the same for all the gigs of that tour. It was a typical setlist for the Magic tour, one for the Hot Space tour and another one for the ANATO tour, and nobody complained :)

Although, of course there wasn't such wide spread availablity of bootlegs or downloads, or cheap travel in those days. Today fans can get to many more gigs I suppose, or can get dowloads etc so they experience more of the tour as a whole. This is probably why there's this attitude.

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As for Paul forgetting the lyrics, I think it's understandable. It's certainly not very easy to sing another band's songs, under the pressure of 14000 ppl in the audience. Freddie forgot the words to Bohemian Rhapsody in 1976 (Osaka, if I remeber well) and to Radio Ga Ga. Roger was completely silly in forgetting more than once the words to I'm In Love With My Car and Happiness. And Brian too, in the later years, when siniging WWRY, sang the third verse instead of the second :) All of them had bad moments throughout the years, got out of pitch, lost their key or forgot lyrics. Except for John - this guy is great, he has never forgotten any lyrics in all his life :)


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Posted: 22 Apr 05, 03:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Bryans Permed Poodle wrote:

Atomic Dog wrote:

I can not believe how many fans are dishing on Paul Rogers. It is great that he is not singing like Freddie, and Freddie would want him to make it his own. If you want the same old thing, stay home and listen to the records.


The guy should fuck off he's shit. Anyway Queen ended in 1991 RIP.


Such a lame argument. No objectivity. Personally, I don't think Brian or Roger sound that strong in their vocal performances either, but it's still enjoyable. Still a good show 'cause of the music. But I've only seen Brixton so far. Wembley and Hyde Park to go. The downloads sound like their definitely improving, so looking forward to these later gigs!


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Posted: 22 Apr 05, 03:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Bryans Permed Poodle wrote:

Atomic Dog wrote:

I can not believe how many fans are dishing on Paul Rogers. It is great that he is not singing like Freddie, and Freddie would want him to make it his own. If you want the same old thing, stay home and listen to the records.


The guy should fuck off he's shit. Anyway Queen ended in 1991 RIP.


Such a lame argument. No objectivity. Personally, I don't think Brian or Roger sound that strong in their vocal performances either, but it's still enjoyable. Still a good show 'cause of the music. But I've only seen Brixton so far. Wembley and Hyde Park to go. The downloads sound like their definitely improving, so looking forward to these later gigs!


And I actually think Paul is doing a good job of it in his own style. If we can't have Freddie singing, I'd rather have someone doing it differently then try to immitate. As we've seen no-one can really come close. George Michael was fantastic at the tribute, but it was his own style, but fitted to the song. That's probably as good as you'll ever get, but GM wouldn't suit the rest of the Queen material IMO. Especially the out and out rock numbers. It's not his area.


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Posted: 22 Apr 05, 05:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Brianmay1975 wrote:

Well, I don't think anybody could blame a guy whose wife died 14 years ago for wanting to get married again. So why blame Brian and Roger for wanting to have a new lease of life with Paul on vocals? This is not about betraying Freddie's memory!

Great stuff, good point.

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Posted: 22 Apr 05, 07:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I have to say, I had some doubts at first. But I saw them in Antwerpen and I have to say: Paul is great. Ofcourse no Freddie, but also great.

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Ah, agree Brenda, seems like people don`t understand this, but it probably is because of they are using the Queen name. Perhaps Paul don`t run around on stage as Freddie did, but i don`t think Freddie would have done it eiter at the age of 59.
I must confess i had doubts about Paul after the gig at the 46664 concert, but this changed after Brixton i`m pleased to say. Queen+Paul Rodgers rocks! ( Just Queen if Freddie still was alive would have been better, but you have to see the reality of today).


And the last concerts where much better than Brixton. Brian after Anterwerpen: "I think this was better then just good??"




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Posted: 22 Apr 05, 09:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Oberon wrote:

Although, of course there wasn't such wide spread availablity of bootlegs or downloads, or cheap travel in those days. Today fans can get to many more gigs I suppose, or can get dowloads etc so they experience more of the tour as a whole. This is probably why there's this attitude.


Yes that's right, but on the other hand we have to think also about how the band looks at it. It's indeed kinda difficult for a band to rehearse loads of songs, only to play them once or twice. Any other band would do the same. Besides that, if it'd be a considerable effort for Brian and Roger to permanently change around the setlist, for Paul Rodgers it'd be indeed damn hard to sing so many new songs in a short matter of time... I'm confident changes will come, but it will take time. They sound extremely fine for a band that stopped touring for 20 years. We have to consider that too, isn't it? It's likely they'll get better and better in time and they'll also get more accustomed with each other, so that they'll get working that special chemistry that'd get them to the top again. We only have to wait and be supportive... So Atomic Dog is right, let's give Paul Rodgers a break, let's trust in him for a little while, just open up our hearts and let them step inside. Maybe we'll even be surprised we like it :)

Other than that, it's obvious they play with such joy of being on the road and on stage again, it's impossible not to be moved when listening to the new stuff. I say it's good for them, let them be happy one more time. Perhaps they'll find a way to make us happy too :)

To Bryans Permed Poodle: Just a psychological advice. Living in the past is bad for your health. Life goes on and turning your back to it is reallly harming. I guess everybody was compelled to live in the past up until now, but now it's high time for the show to go on. It's a beautiful thing to see Queen alive again :)



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Posted: 22 Apr 05, 10:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Ah, agree Brenda, seems like people don`t understand this, but it probably is because of they are using the Queen name. Perhaps Paul don`t run around on stage as Freddie did, but i don`t think Freddie would have done it eiter at the age of 59.
I must confess i had doubts about Paul after the gig at the 46664 concert, but this changed after Brixton i`m pleased to say. Queen+Paul Rodgers rocks! ( Just Queen if Freddie still was alive would have been better, but you have to see the reality of today).


And the last concerts where much better than Brixton. Brian after Anterwerpen: "I think this was better then just good??"



Totally agree, the quality is increasing for each concert, and that`s great!

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Posted: 22 Apr 05, 11:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Comments like "The guy should fuck off he's shit. Anyway Queen ended in 1991 RIP" show astounding ignorance. Paul Rodgers was an influence on Freddie and if you take the time to look back through Paul's career, he was having hits long before Queen were huge, he had a Grammy nominated solo record (which Brian was on), has sold somewhere in the region of 125 million albms, he's a gifted musician and has a voice that has spawned countless imitators. So he's going to sing the songs as Paul Rodgers, NOT as Freddie and you end up with what I think is a very pleasant situation - a concert that offers Queen hits, Bad Company hits, Free hits and material performed by Roger and Brian too, both old and new.
So I think I can catagorically state Rodgers is NOT shit, or he wouldn't be a Hall Of Famer like Queen. I was stunned at how many people didn't know who Paul waqs when the tour was announced, but it's great to see people embracing his talent. And if you're one of these blinkered people who cant see past 1991 don't go to the shows. You won't be missed.

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