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Posted: 29 Apr 05, 10:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Can we make a complete list of all fake recordings? I mean tracks which are named as demos, rare live performance and something like that then they're not (I don't mean wrong dates or venues on bootlegs):

- Mother Love (demo) - is a fan mix
- Time (live, 1988, Freddie) - is a fan mix, though other tracks from this last live Freddie's performance are real
- Tracks from 1977 Radio 1 sessions (for Alan Freeman) on some bootlegs have false audience noise.
- March Of The Black Queen (BBC version) - is an album original version (hope Mr Brooks wouldn't kill me for this).

Now it's your turn!

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Posted: 29 Apr 05, 10:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Great topic! I don't have anything to add but just thought I'd say this will be extremely useful..

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Posted: 29 Apr 05, 10:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Misfire- demo
Killer queen - rough mix
Tenement funster- demo
Now I´m here- demo
The millionaire waltz - demo
You take my breath away - demo
Fat bottomed girl - demo
All those appeared on some bootlegs and are fakes- either BBC recordings or vocal erduced tracks through mono channel.

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Posted: 29 Apr 05, 11:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Serry Funster wrote:



- Mother Love (demo) - is a fan mix


is that the 1min41 one? with it seeming like freddie's straining vocals?



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Posted: 29 Apr 05, 13:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Posted: 29 Apr 05, 14:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Posted: 29 Apr 05, 14:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

bigc wrote:

Serry Funster wrote:



- Mother Love (demo) - is a fan mix


is that the 1min41 one? with it seeming like freddie's straining vocals?



Yes, it's available for download on some Queen fan sites and stated as 'demo version'.

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Posted: 29 Apr 05, 15:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

- Under Pressure (demo version, appears on some bootlegs) - there's 'Feel Like' and there's Brian appearance on the USA KEWB radio station where he played on The Red Special this famous UP bass riff and few other guitar overdubs while original version was playing. Same is about Tie Your Mother Down, Brighton Rock, Headlong, Killer Queen, but I've seen few bootlegs where only such version of UP was mentioned as 'demo'.

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Posted: 29 Apr 05, 15:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

crowing glory bootleg, it's Mannhiem, not Minnisota 1986 =)


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Posted: 29 Apr 05, 19:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Fenderek wrote:


Fat bottomed girl - demo


I've always wondered about that one. It never sounded right to me, but I can't figure out how they possibly faked it.

I know of more, but since I delete them as soon as I realise they are fake, I can't remember right now :)

Good thread.


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Posted: 30 Apr 05, 04:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Frog wrote:

Serry Funster wrote:

- Under Pressure (demo version, appears on some bootlegs) - there's 'Feel Like' and there's Brian appearance on the USA KEWB radio station where he played on The Red Special this famous UP bass riff and few other guitar overdubs while original version was playing. Same is about Tie Your Mother Down, Brighton Rock, Headlong, Killer Queen, but I've seen few bootlegs where only such version of UP was mentioned as 'demo'.


How can Feel Like be fake, with all of those vocals?


You didn't get the point. I wrote that there's 'Feel Like' song and there's Brian's appearance on radio where he played UP bits during album's version playing, but there's no (to the date) proper demo of UP.

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Posted: 02 May 05, 10:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Seems as not many Queen fans interested in this, but anyway I've made more complete version of the list of fake recordings and it's on my site:

http://serryfunster.narod.ru/fakes.htm

Thanks to Fenderek and John S. Stuart!

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Posted: 02 May 05, 10:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks Sergey! That's very useful. It's awful to think there are fake recordings around!!!!

I just recently downloaded Time 88 and it's clear it's a fake. It would be impossible to sound exactly like the original in a live performance!

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Posted: 02 May 05, 15:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thank you. I've updated it and would try to do it as soon as it's possible, hope it helps some fans for not spending money/time on meaningless tracks.

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Posted: 02 May 05, 16:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

About this so-called 'Under Pressure demo' on other forum (http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=522711) you can find this radio show (incomplete) where Brian played this 'demo' (somewhere nearer to the end):
http://rapidshare.de/files/1539442/Brian_-_Interview_-_6-4-91_live_jam.mp3.html

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Posted: 03 May 05, 03:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

No-one has suggested how the Fat Bottomed Girls one is fake (and Sergey, you don't have that on your web site list). I've listen to it again and again, and I can hear different guitars as well as vocals in a totally different key.

My other question is about Silver Salmon. I've read that there is only one version, and all others are faked. Is this right, and if so, which is the real one?



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Posted: 03 May 05, 08:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Fat Bottomed Girls may be the stuff from Hollywood's JAZZ. It's a remix though, not a demo.

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Posted: 03 May 05, 09:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes, there's Brian Malouf remix for HR Jazz reissue - it contains more vocal, and probably different drums.

And on "The Ultimate Collection" is 'First take' version - someone says it'a a little bit different, someone - it's similar to single's version. IMO, it's a fake too.

About SS - I don't know really. Check John S. Stuart's Ultimate Collection for more details, I think all those 'Silver Salmon's are just different cuts of one version.

I've just updated that page with FBG, thanks for the help!

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Posted: 07 May 05, 10:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

According to John S. Stuart's Ultimate Collection there's only one 'Silver Salmon' version, so I was right probably (I've heard only one version, so I don't know), but still need in confirmation for adding it to my site (I've updated my list of fake recordings, any additions and corrections are still welcome!)

http://serryfunster.narod.ru/fakes.htm

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Posted: 08 May 05, 13:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

we all know this