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Posted: 16 May 05, 23:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I saw 3 concerts of the Q + PR spring tour: Brixton, Frankfurt and Muenchen and have to say that I had the time of my life, it was fun and I don't regret a single minute or euro!

Still, I want to write up a little review and I would like to read yours.

Although the concerts were great, they were of course not perfect, so let me first write up what I had to criticise.

- While I did not notice anything in Brixton, the sound in Munich and in Frankfurt was far from optimum. Mostly in the Festhalle the vocals were drowned in a sound mud of overloud guitars and drums. The Festhalle has a reputation for swallowing sound but I have heard much better mixed sound there.
- The light equipment was great in Frankfurt but far less spectacular in the other two concerts, where the big rigs did not move like in Frankfurt.
- The beginning of the concert was great in Brixton when PR stood before the curtain in a single spot light for "Reachin' Out" and then the curtain dropped for Brian May and the rest of the band. In the later shows this curtain dropping was pretty pointlesse since PR sang Reachin' Out on stage B and many fans could see behind the curtain:)
- Paul Rodgers's permanent staring at the monitors was annoying. To know the lyrics is the most basic requirement a singer should meet. Luckily, this changed in the course of the tour.
- The screen for TATDOOL BoRhap and Guitar Solo was a joke, really. It looked like the equipment my geography teacher used in the last century. The videos were too dark and from many angles in the halls you could not see anything, in Munich Freddie "sang" out-of-synch - maybe that was some kind of art form I did not understand.
- the fake drums in TATDOOL and GaGa - I just hated them
- the empty stool in LOML, the Freddie tape and PR bowing and pointing at the screen to introduce Freddie - not to my liking but maybe they did not dare to make it less of a Freddie memorial concert after all the "Queen is not Queen without Freddie" outcries.

Oh yes - the tour logo is just plain ugly.

Having said all this I thought the tour was a huge success- much better than I ever hoped it to be although I was in favour of it from day 1. I have no problem with the set list and I think the PR songs mixed very well with the Queen stuff. It was obvious that PR felt more comfortable with his own songs but he did a great job with the Queen material as well. Jamie Moses did a fantastic job, he almost never makes mistakes and he always has this sunny smile although his contract apparently did not allow him to wear his trademark cowboy hat. Danny Miranda seemd to fit well into the group and Spike held it all together as usual (I know that some fans hate him but he is really important).

Roger was the big surprise for me, I admit I did not expect he has so much energy. His vocals and his drumming were amazing. Incredible how he took over vocals on HTF - it just blew us away. This and the great chemistry between him and Brian made the shows so special for us hardcore Queen maniacs. They loved what they did and the audience loved it too and there was not much that could disturb this overall harmony :) In Brixton hyper nervous Brian made more mistakes than in his whole previous career but nobody really cared because the people who were in Brixton in spite of the infamous lottery and in spite of ticketmaster wanted to be there - they were definitely the greatest crowd I ever saw in any concert.

I don't like to rate concerts or songs as "favourites", I liked all three concerts. Brixton was probabaly the most experimental show, much was still rough and did not really work but it was the first Queen concert after all this time, it was almost unreal. We even forgive them for the 23 minutes of track 13. Munich was maybe the best concert soundwise and Frankfurt was almost at my front door and brought all the great people to my home.

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Posted: 17 May 05, 01:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

thanks for the rundown - maybe they'll bring the show to New Zealand or Australia, God willing.

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Posted: 17 May 05, 08:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

What a critical review, Barbara. My point of view is that in November last year no one of us would have thought of a Queen-Tour (i.e. to see Brian and Roger together on stage performing Queen-songs. Btw these comments about "Queen ended in 1991" are rubbish. Freddie passed away in 1991 and for all of us it was and still is a tragic loss. But Queen cannot "end". It's immortal. You have worldwide sold out Musicals, the Laser-show played in Munich for four years, until the Planetarium had to close on February 23rd this year - final show? "Made In Heaven" of course. In Jena they're still playing the laser-show, which startet there on November 9th 2002. Even so called tribute shows like "A Night Of Queen" are very successful. Therefore I cannot think of anything that may stop the attraction of Queen). Now, a half later, the indoor-tour is part of history. That's a miracle for me. - So, is it necessary to critize or would we have prefered Brian's and Roger's decision to retire as John did?

For me the tour was a real gift and I enjoyed it without exception. Of course there are some points that weren't perfect, like the extremely expensive tickets or the weak opening of the show (I'd liked much more that thunder and lightening-opening of We Will Rock You-film or the "perfect" opener "One Vision". Moreover I desperately missed "Dragon Attack"; and the second song should have been "Headlong".

Nevertheless I think, Brian and Roger found a really appropriate singer and put together the best Possible and I feel privileged that I was part of it and could witness it.

No regrets.

Cheers!

PS: I didn't know you missed Vienna, Barbara. That explains everything! ;)


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Posted: 17 May 05, 08:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You did not read my post, Fredo


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Posted: 17 May 05, 09:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Fredo - you ask if it's necessary to critisise, then go on to list the things you didn't like. That's no more than YV was doing !

For myself, the only reservations I had was that i couldn't understand why Spike, Danny and Jamie all had to be on the left of the stage. with Paul and Brian making extensive use of the catwalk, that meant that for large portions of the gig the right hand side of the stage was completely empty. Also having an extra guitarist meant that there were (admittedly short) periods where Brian had nothing to do, where there was no lead to play, he just stood there with his hands on his hips looking a little awkward. Oh, and Roger needs to do something with his hands when he's up front singing, during the solo in Days Of Our Lives, all he could think of doing was a half assed attempt at air guitar with his back to the audience.

But hey, these are mere insignificant quibbles in the light of the fantastic entertainment provided by the guys over the last couple of months.


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Posted: 17 May 05, 09:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I did, Barbara! Of course you're writing about "the time of my life". The last 3 paragraphs of your post make very clear that you experienced something great. But I really cannot agree with these loads of complaints everyone here formulates. I mean, is it necessary to be nitpicking when we all got the great possibility to see our heros again?

- is the varying sound-quality at different locations really worth to be mentioned? - I'm sure they did their best to reach the optimum but during the show it sounded like it sounded.

- I also saw rigs moving and rigs not moving. But this little detail couldn't spoil my overall-experience, I even refused to realize it.

- Paul came once upstairs on stage, otherwise he entered through the curtain. Once again: I think the opening-idea was not what I expected, but: That was the moment when the whole thing started, my inner joy reached its maximum and I would not have been able to apprehend things which I would critice.

- Paul's permanent staring at the monitors was annoying for you. As regular attender of Sting-concerts (yes, I'm a Sting fan as well, shoot me) I can tell you that this man is watching his monitors also regularly, though he's singing his very own songs. Moreover only the fans near the stage could watch this, but 99 percent of the audience couldn't notice Paul's partial "dependence" on the monitors. I'm a part-time actor and we have a prompter offstage. It's like a monitor, when you need it you have it there and you can in case of troubles avoid a complete blackout. It's a good safety net and it is legitime to use it.

- I could watch and enjoy everything they showed on screen. It could have been better placed, but no reason to complain. And the out-of-synch-problem in Munich was a technical problem. It can happen. But what's the use of criticise it?

- You HATED the fake drums of "These Are The Days Of Our Lives" (TATDOOL) and "Radio Ga Ga" (GaGa). I just DIDN'T K´LIKE them. (Btw. I HATE these song-abbreviations) ;)

- the empty stool was a very intelligent and tasteful gesture and the obeisances for Freddie were appropriate.

Barbara, as my English gets worse from sentence to sentence: I don't want to attack you. I got the content of your post. But you're reporting about the time of your life while describing so many inessential details that you hated or that were annoying for you. To come to an end: Wouldn't be your tour-review WITHOUT those minus-points more adequate and glorious?

I love to read you had such a great time. So had I. I'm still thinking about Cologne or Hyde Park ...

All the best to you!

Cheers!


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Posted: 17 May 05, 09:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Teo_torriate04 wrote:

Fredo - you ask if it's necessary to critisise, then go on to list the things you didn't like. That's no more than YV was doing !


OK, you want my complete list: Here we go:

1. My car-ride to Basel and back to Vienna was 1700 km long and without sleeping. Back home I was soooo tired.

2. A sandwich at St. Jakobshalle-Restaurant costed 5,60 Franken (3,60 Euros)!!!

3. The parking meter at St. Jakobshalle swallowed 15 Franken (10 Euros)!!!

4. In Vienna I had to wait for half an hour for my collegue who had my ticket.

5. Despite careful preparation I could not find the Olympia-Park in Munich, cause it's badly signposted.

6. In Munich Brian and Roger threw a drum-stick in my direction and I was unathletic enough to not catch one of them.

7. In Budapest I almost ruined one of my car's tyres when knocking over a huge hole in the asphalt. (These Eastern-Block-streets are really annoying!)

8. In Budapest I realized I had forgotten my sport shoes. So I had to attend the show in my low shoes and that was uncomfortable.

9. In Budapest the audience permanently jumped for no reason and regularely climbed up the stage-barrier.

10. In Budapest I lost my way back to Vienna. I lost more than one hour while searching the motorway-drive-up.

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Posted: 17 May 05, 11:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

There is no use to argue because it's not about: what did you like - what did I like. Basically, we agree that the tour was great and we had a great time.

Other than you I also notice what was not so great and a tour review would be useless for me if I only say: it was all fantastic and nothing was wrong at all. I think my opinion is more useful when I also name the mistakes or what I did not like that much personally. It makes my overall evaluation more credible. I am not a teenager and I don't faint when I see my fave band (who are not my heroes, btw). That's just my way of viewing things and I am not saying you should do the same. But it's not fair to say that I am nitpicking only because I am not seeing everything through the rosy glasses.

And your list of little misfortunes is funny - I just hope it's not meant to ridicule me.




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Posted: 17 May 05, 11:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well I thought your review was good :-)

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Posted: 17 May 05, 12:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

think you should all calm down a little. Maybe YV's review was a lil bit too harsh - i wouldn't have been so harsh and say that I hated sth on this tour and i have o disagree with some points - especially sound-wise it depends on where you standing and despite the reputation of the Munich Olympiahalle (where I have seen lots of shows) I never heard a better sound than at the QPR show - amazing (stood on the right side of "stage B")
The opening was great IMO - the curtain falling dwon was very effective only those on the shitty places right BEHIND the stage could have seen what's going on - was a highlight for me. I agre that "IWTBF" as second song was kinda show stopper another rockier tune would've been better. The fake drums - well ok not my cup of tea also. I d never dare to criticize Brian dedicating "LOML" to Freddie with the empty stool. A very moving part of the show IMO. If they would have forgotten freddie in any way there would be more to criticize IMO.
Sure not everything was great but as I never had the oppurtunity to see the original Line Up i am thankful for what I've seen 4 times (Brixton/Frankfurt/Munich/Dortmund) and looking forwar to cologne a lot!

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Posted: 17 May 05, 14:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Since I only attended the show in Leipzig, to write a summary would be useless, I already wrote a few sentences in the "Leipzig review" thread.
Generally, why not critisize what one didn't like? Of course, no-one would have expected the tour, huge surprise, we are all more than happy that it happende and so on. But still, they are professionals, they charged a lot of money, they are no saints and they may be judged positively and/or negatively.

All in all, I had the feeling Queen was praised a lot for the concerts (rightly!), the press was very positive and they (Queen!) left a great impression, but also played it safe and to my mind sometimes were a bit too foreseeable.

btw, I thought it was great that finally someone told jamie to take off that silly hat. Maybe it's time for someone to tell Brian that tent-like shirts are dowdy as well:)


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Posted: 17 May 05, 17:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Great job YV

thanks for sharing

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Posted: 17 May 05, 18:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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9. In Budapest the audience permanently jumped for no reason and regularely climbed up the stage-barrier.


The reason was the QUEEN GIG MAN!!! :D I'm not sure anymore whether I jumped all the time or not, but I definitely did not climb the barrier :)

Anyway, I enjoyed the gig, I liked the stars during the wonderful Last Horizon, the videos of John and Freddie, shouting "Ready Freddie" in Crazy Little Thing Called Love, seeing Brian and Roger side by side for the first time, listening to that wonderful drum solo, hear the 2 guys sing... All of it :) Yeah, and that Paul guy was good, too, he made a good show, with Queen songs and his own songs too.

I hope I will have the chance to see and hear them live again!


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Posted: 18 May 05, 02:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The spring tour is over, but the best is yet to come. I'm looking forward to the summer gigs. Hopefully they will change the set list a bit. They have some time now to rehearse new songs.

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Posted: 18 May 05, 02:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Brixton - we had to survive the whole Track 13 (I love this track but 23 minutes in the darkness before a concert, that was too much even for me) and then came Eminem. I think EVERYBODY said "what the fuck is this?" and were really disappointed by this intro. But then the curtain fell down and it was just unbelievable - Queen are back. The setlist was strange (gaps between songs, acoustic set too early etc.) but I still loved every second of the gig.

And by the way, after the second or third gig that I saw, I got used to Eminem and now I actually LOVE this intro! The darkness, this heavy beat, red lights shining into the venue... it really builds up the tension very well. Clever idea.

Other gigs were technically better - in Vienna and Prague you could see the band REALLY enjoyed playing, in Munich it was great to see everybody standing and singing along, in Budapest we loved this short Long Away / Tavaszi Szel piece, in Frankfurt we met half of QueenZone, in Leipzig we met the whole band... :-) Every gig was great.

Complaints? Not really - I had a GREAT time. If I had to complain about something, it would be:

1. incredibly stupid Brixton lottery

2. travelling - I'm not really used to driving 5000 km in 10 days, especially in my small Renault Clio which (when full) hardly reaches 120 km/h!

3. weather - was quite good but in Munich I caught cold which I still hasn't fully cured :-) As a result of that I felt really sick in Prague and especially in Leipzig.

4. signatures - we were waiting for the band many times but only once had luck with getting signatures/photos; the other times we only could wave at the luxurious limousines :-( Roger apparently hates meeting fans after what the "Roger girls" were doing to him on the Electric Fire tour.

5. setlist - was quite good but I expected more "unusual" songs! Except for '39 we got the so-called "greatest hits". A Kind Of Magic should have never been in the setlist, especially when Brian didn't play his solo in this song properly. The full version of I Want It All was a nice surprise.

6. guitar solo - I LOVE Brian's guitar solos but this Chinese Torture thing was simply TERRIBLE. I'm not sure if Brian realizes that it's actually PAINFUL for the ears. On the other hand, the Danube Waltz in Vienna was great :-)

7. Budapest - very nice city but by far the worst roads in the whole Europe! And of course, I got lost many times there. Not a surprise, I got lost in Munich too.

8. Lyrics - Paul often forgot the lyrics and was staring at the monitors all the time. If they had rehearsed for one more month, this wouldn't have happened.

9. Tour logo - ugly. The flyers/posters with the "flames" (or whatever it was) were great but this purple logo looks BAD.

10. In Vienna I was in the first row and Pete Malandrone was handing the stage setlist to me after the show (I asked him for it) but some German-speaking idiot didn't respect that and had unfortunately a quicker hand than me :-( And in Frankfurt I asked Trip Khalaf for the setlist after the concert but he refused and trashed it instead! (yeah, big secret these printed setlists).

Btw. I loved the empty stool, I loved how they played BoRhap with Freddie on the screen. I also didn't notice any major differences between the lighting rigs (or simply didn't care). Acoustics was good in most venues (only vocals were often "hidden" under this massive guitar/drums sound but that's common on most gigs). Leipzig and Frankfurt seemed to have worse acoustics than the other venues.

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Posted: 18 May 05, 06:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"7. Budapest - very nice city but by far the worst roads in the whole Europe! And of course, I got lost many times there. Not a surprise, I got lost in Munich too."

Does it mean you did not get lost in Vienna? :)



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Posted: 18 May 05, 06:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Fredo wrote:

7. In Budapest I almost ruined one of my car's tyres when knocking over a huge hole in the asphalt. (These Eastern-Block-streets are really annoying!)


Warning! Off topic rant:

Tsk, tsk! After all these years and we're still referred to as "Eastern Block". This one expression from you made me realize just how much longer the EU still has to go. We're still divided, even though the Berlin wall is down. Perhaps it will be decades before the dream of an United Europe comes true.

FYI I am from Bulgaria. And you don't know what a "hole in the asphalt" looks like until you've driven in the streets of my home town.

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Posted: 18 May 05, 06:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Back to the topic at hand.

I only saw Budapest. Great show despite the technical setbacks. The guys seemed to have a lot of fun as were all of us.

My 2 cents: Brian and Roger could and should go on tour on their own. I don't think that they need an outside vocalist to fill in for Freddie.

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Posted: 18 May 05, 06:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Two of my biggest disappointments were:

1) The use of the Backing Tracks for GaGa and TATDOOL. Despite what I'd heard from the Fancourt gig, these still caught me by surprise and wish that they'd not be used.

2) A Kind Of Magic. It didn't work at Brixton, and it felt the same way at Wembley. Paul's vocals are great, the lights look superb, but there's something about it I simply don't 'get'

The other thing that slightly disappointed me was the setlist. With all that material, and all those tracks which I think suit Paul's voice, we ended up with a Hits Tour, albeit with a couple of minor surprises here and there. Until the UK Shows, there wasn't really much change. Hopefully, the break between the Spring/Summer Tour will give the chance to rehearse and add more songs to the show.


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Posted: 18 May 05, 07:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"Roger apparently hates meeting fans after what the "Roger girls" were doing to him on the Electric Fire tour."....Martin, out of interest what is this that you speak of? I heard something about an incident with a scarf, but if you could elaborate more?



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