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Posted: 21 May 05, 15:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

When I listen to concerts in the period 1974 - 1977 I think the vocal harmonies are really bad. Especially Roger is singing wrong. Don't get me wrong I love Roger's voice. I think it changed with the jazz tour. What was Queen's problem ? Didn't they have enough monitor ? Has any of you guys mentioned this before and what would be the cause of this vocal problem ?

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Posted: 21 May 05, 19:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

IMHO Brian was out of pitch many times, Roger was pretty much quite right


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Posted: 22 May 05, 00:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I agree. Roger was always "on" during the live shows. Brian would tend to go off a little. But then again, they really couldn't re-create what they did in the studio.

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Posted: 22 May 05, 00:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Rogers on pitch while Brian is off sometimes. Thats probably why they turned his mic down a lot on Live At the Bowl.


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Posted: 22 May 05, 10:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Rogers on pitch while Brian is off sometimes. Thats probably why they turned his mic down a lot on Live At the Bowl.


and John sings a cracking lead vocal - makes FM look average ;-)


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Posted: 23 May 05, 05:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

IMO it was also Brian who was singing harmonies really badly- Roger was usually spot on

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Posted: 23 May 05, 11:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

JDL2nd wrote:

When I listen to concerts in the period 1974 - 1977 I think the vocal harmonies are really bad.


No way, it's the other way around... until 78 or so, their harmonies were incredible, but then as their show slowly moved towards being a visual thing, they concentrated less on things like harmonies.



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Posted: 23 May 05, 15:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yeah I agree with GH. I was waiting for someone with more musical experience to state this opinion before I chimed in. IMHO opinion Queen's best harmonies were on the 74-3-31 (or was this overdubbed?).


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Posted: 23 May 05, 15:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

JDL2nd wrote:

When I listen to concerts in the period 1974 - 1977 I think the vocal harmonies are really bad.


No way, it's the other way around... until 78 or so, their harmonies were incredible, but then as their show slowly moved towards being a visual thing, they concentrated less on things like harmonies.


I agree with you, Bob :-).


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Posted: 23 May 05, 16:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yeah, I think the vocal harmonies were at their best 73-74... as I think they concentrated more on the musical aspect of the performance - they probably rehearsed a lot more at this point also. Some people claim the Rainbow stuff is heavily overdubbed, which I doubt... its just mixed well, and I'm sure they would have put more effort in for their first pro-shot gig/s... although if you listen to some of the bootlegs of the band supporting Mott The Hoople in the US, they had the harmonies down really well.

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Posted: 23 May 05, 19:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

All I know is even when it's just Freddie and Roger singing it sounds HUGE. On Fire is a great example of harmonies I feel.


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Posted: 23 May 05, 22:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Rip Van Winkle wrote:

Yeah I agree with GH. I was waiting for someone with more musical experience to state this opinion before I chimed in. IMHO opinion Queen's best harmonies were on the 74-3-31 (or was this overdubbed?).


Honestly, I'm still not sure how much was overdubbed, but some was FOR SURE. There's one point in Liar where you can hear Freddie's lead vocal, and it overlaps the next line he sings. I'll check when I go home tomorrow for the exact point in the song.



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Posted: 24 May 05, 20:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yeah indeed, before 1977 the vocals were great. And in the 1977. I don't know What Roger did with his voice but he's singing soooooo bad.

I'm glad they payed a lot of attention to the harmonies on the current tour. It's really great! They're all singing so much better than when they had that homo with them


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Posted: 25 May 05, 04:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote:

Yeah indeed, before 1977 the vocals were great. And in the 1977. I don't know What Roger did with his voice but he's singing soooooo bad.

I'm glad they payed a lot of attention to the harmonies on the current tour. It's really great! They're all singing so much better than when they had that homo with them


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Posted: 28 May 05, 23:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Okay, so I took a few days!

For those who are interested, in the Rainbow 3-31-74 recording, check out the part right after "time after time"... Freddie sings "Liar" clearly before the previous line has ended. Overdub.

I listened to the recording yesterday, and there are a few points where the harmonies just sound too good to be true...



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Posted: 29 May 05, 00:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote:

Yeah indeed, before 1977 the vocals were great. And in the 1977. I don't know What Roger did with his voice but he's singing soooooo bad.

I'm glad they payed a lot of attention to the harmonies on the current tour. It's really great! They're all singing so much better than when they had that homo with them


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Posted: 29 May 05, 04:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I don't agree with this. I think during the American NOTW-tour (1977) they sounded great with their harmonies, especially It's Late has some nice harmonies.


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Posted: 29 May 05, 08:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

A good example of Queen harmonies is indeed Fat Bottemed Girls from Live At The Bowl (beginning bit). A bad example is on the second disc (Japan '82) in Teo Torriatte when it's just Bri & Fred. Perhaps this is why in later years i.e. '86 Spike did alot of the work Bri would have done years before. I personally think that pre-jazz harmonies were great. They then picked up again later with the addition of Spike. Who Wants To Live Forever being a good example.


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