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Posted: 27 May 05, 09:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

So any band who now decides to tour America are copying Queen?

I DON'T think so!


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Posted: 27 May 05, 09:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Bastards! I mean- Queen MAY go on tour to US in the fall, no other bands should do it in the same time...
C'mon- they didn't even confirm it yet!


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Posted: 27 May 05, 09:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

BluEydFlu_Z wrote:

Hence the word RUMORS!

So how can you say taht someone is hijacking something? Geez, I'm sure on the stones' noticeboars pp were already discussing their tour for halfa year as well.... You said yourself that you're not their fan- so you didn't hear about it. C'mon- you can't organise a massive tour in two weeks...
All I'm saying is... It will be different audience that will go and see Queen, and different one that will go for Stones. If the same- ppl will probably see both shows. No-one is stealing anything from anyone...

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Posted: 27 May 05, 10:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You know what they say about answers? That it depends on the question... You'll hear about other big bands that are going on tour in US in fall. Because they always do... Someone big is always gonna tour US in the fall every year... Fall 2005 isn't exclusive to Queen...

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Posted: 27 May 05, 10:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The Rolling Stones have done/completed/ and announced many USA tours in the last 40 years on their own without riding the coat tails of anyone.

Of course I am 100 times bigger Queen fan, than Stones fan....

but I don't think the Stones have to think too hard about selling out arena's.... they've been doing it since before most of us here were born.


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Posted: 27 May 05, 10:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Scott_Mercury wrote:


but I don't think the Stones have to think too hard about selling out arena's.... they've been doing it since before most of us here were born.

Ditto- my thoughts exactly

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Posted: 27 May 05, 11:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

BluEydFlu_Z: "John S. Stuart. Why are you always such a smartass?"

I think it may be because I have a brain, and, more often than not I usually try to use it.

How else does one become a smart ass?






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Posted: 27 May 05, 11:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

John S Stuart wrote:

BluEydFlu_Z: "John S. Stuart. Why are you always such a smartass?"

I think it may be because I have a brain, and, more often than not I usually try to use it.

How else does one become a smart ass?





BlyEydFlu-Z... Why the anger?
Don't you think we knew of the Stones gig over a year ago?
It's takes a lot of planning and time to organise the kind of tours the Stones do. Believe me, they're not 'taking Queen's thunder".


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Posted: 27 May 05, 11:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

BluEydFlu_Z: "I think it's unfortunate that a person can't make up with brains what they lack in personality..."

So very true, but I am not a personality, I am two or three lines in a Queen forum noticeboard.

As to my initial response: "So any band who now decides to tour America are copying Queen? I DON'T think so!" - this was not meant to be either rude or curt, but a succinct summation of my thoughts on the subject. I could have used similar arguments as:

Fenderek: "So how can you say taht someone is hijacking something? Geez, I'm sure on the stones' noticeboars pp were already discussing their tour for halfa year as well.... You said yourself that you're not their fan- so you didn't hear about it. C'mon- you can't organise a massive tour in two weeks..."

Scott_Mercury: "The Rolling Stones have done/completed/ and announced many USA tours in the last 40 years on their own without riding the coat tails of anyone... I don't think the Stones have to think too hard about selling out arena's.... they've been doing it since before most of us here were born."

and

Chrirons: "Why the anger? Don't you think we knew of the Stones gig over a year ago? It's takes a lot of planning and time to organise the kind of tours the Stones do. Believe me, they're not 'taking Queen's thunder"."

However, I could not be arsed at the time (still can't to be honest) hence the very short (but precise) reply. It was not meant to cause offence.

Sometimes one can disagree in one syllable (NO!) - without having to revert to three page justifications. If my diasagreement meets with your disapproval - I apologise - but being succinct does not equate with being either rude nor ignorant.

Now, even after this mini essay, I still disagree, and stand by my original statement: "So any band who now decides to tour America are copying Queen? I DON'T think so!"

Personally, I would think that any mature reader would accept that this is a pulic discussion board, and that others have the right to disagree with me.






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Posted: 27 May 05, 12:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Am a Stones fans, but a much bigger Queen fan.
The Stones have every right to tour this summer
as does any other group. Saw the Stones last time out. Very good show. If you get a chance to go, I would recommend it.

One big difference is the Stones are touring with their lead singer, and very very sadly Queen is not.



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Posted: 27 May 05, 13:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Just so you all know, in the USA, Autumn/Fall is a prime time for tours.

U2 will be coing here, the Stones of course, Duran Duran is doing some shows now then more in the fall.

That's like all summer blockbuster movies are released in the states at 2 key times, May-June when the kiddies get out of school, and October thru Christmas not only for revenues..but to be eligible for that year's Academy Awards.

It's just about Fall being prime time for muisc tours that's all. Has nothing to do with The Rolling Stones trying to ambush Queen. Then again if Queen, picked a time when other bands are NOT doing big tours, that doesn't mean Queen would do any better necesasrily, because it might be a bad time for tours (ie: winter months with BAD weather is the USA, plus the Christmas/Thanksgiving season when people here visit family.

Queen like any other act, are vying for what they also call in our USA TV networks here, the "Sweeps Season", meaning the prime optimum time for music touring acts. Yes they will be competing with a tone of other bands...but...fans of Queen will most likely still pay to see Queen anyhow..because they are fans.

If any of those fans also like the other bands that are touring, they will likely arrange their schedules and it will all work out.

Here in the USA, for the last year, the ONLY bands and acts whose tours have failed, have been those who have been WAY overcharging for ticket sales. According to Pollstar, Billboard, Variety (who all monitor tours) and Clear Channel, who is the Main concert promoter and booking agent for music tours in the USA, this year was the worst ever financially for bands touring and many had to cancel their tours (even our infamous Lollapalooza Festival, Doves promoting their brand new record, etc.)...all becuase they overcharged for ticket prices in what is a very bad economy currently in the USA.

So if Queen keep their ticket prices affordable, they could actually beat out some of the other bands that are touring.


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Posted: 27 May 05, 13:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sharon G. wrote:

One big difference is the Stones are touring with their lead singer, and very very sadly Queen is not.



Get the fuck over it, you annoying little shit.

And well said Arlene, though if I may add one thing - The Stones have always toured the USA in the fall since about 1981. They've started every single tour in this country toward the end of August / beginning of September; it seems to be a fairly common practice for them.

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Posted: 27 May 05, 14:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

so much better to go to a concert in the fall compared to summer...summer only has to offer less then fully dressed chicks on hot sweaty days...


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Posted: 27 May 05, 14:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

BluEydFlu_z wrote;
"My god, I don't know who's worse on these boards.
The over 20's or under 20's. "

Are we talking I.Q.'s here?!!


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Posted: 27 May 05, 14:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Read this article. About Trey Anastacio cancelling his USA Festival Zooma Summer tour.

http://www.billboard.com/bb/daily/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000937652

This is what I was referring to in my earlier post. If a band overcharges for tickets or does not properly plan to play at decent, accessible venues here in rhe USA...then they bust. I might add that Trey Anastasio has a HUMONGOUS faithful Deadhead type cult following from his days with Phish, here in the USA...

...and this tour still did not sell enough tickets in the cities it was planned for...so he cancelled the tour altogether.

But see what USA jam band String Cheese Incident says in this article about THEIR USA summer tour.

"We're projecting that almost everywhere will sell out. But we're playing 10,000 seaters, not 20,000 seaters. We feel like our cost is fair to the promoters, and the ticket prices are fair to the kids."

If Queen use good strategy, and appeal to the financial state of people here in the USA's current economic climate...and keep their ticket prices affordable, and plan to play at key geographic cities and quality venues that their fans will WANT to pay to go to and like, then they should do fine.


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