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Posted: 04 Jun 05, 12:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

This is for you guitar experts. Does anyone have any idea how many guitar tracks make up the orchestration part of "All Dead, AllDead" ?


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Posted: 04 Jun 05, 13:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

That's an interesting question. When I listen to it I would say there are 6 guitars in the song. You can hear a certain construction in the song but I also think they put an effect on it so that it sounds more full and more like an orchest.

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Posted: 04 Jun 05, 13:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Don't know how many parts go into the harmonies in that bit, but each part would probably have many overdubs.

He once said there was something like 24 guitars in Millionaire Waltz so that might give you an idea.


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Posted: 05 Jun 05, 08:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I doubt any guitar experts other than Brian (and maybe the recording engineer)would be able to answer that question. . . but I always thought the guitars on that orchestrated bit sounded more unusual than his other orchestrated guitar parts. . . like as if they had slowed the analog tape down, recorded his parts, and then sped it back up to normal speed on playback. It sounds gorgeous but it's way too short.


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Posted: 05 Jun 05, 14:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

One of my favourite moments on a Queen record. That orchestration is what still makes me want to get an ebow!

I'm sure there must be someone on here that could figure out the lines needed to be played.

Here's a start - http://queen.musichall.cz/index_en.php?s=ak&t=alldead&k=tab

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Posted: 05 Jun 05, 16:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I've never been much of a fan of that particular orchestration, and I feel the same about the guitar chorus in the second verse of Teo Torriate.

Both parts seem overdone to me, and overpower the gentleness of the rest of the backing.

I could work out all the guitar parts for ADAD if I could be bothered. Which I can't. But I'd guesstimate, from memory of the song, that there's around 10 guitar parts.


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Posted: 05 Jun 05, 23:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Koolkikiland wrote:

I doubt any guitar experts other than Brian (and maybe the recording engineer)would be able to answer that question. . . but I always thought the guitars on that orchestrated bit sounded more unusual than his other orchestrated guitar parts. . . like as if they had slowed the analog tape down, recorded his parts, and then sped it back up to normal speed on playback. It sounds gorgeous but it's way too short.

I imagine the sound comes from the custom "deaky" amps...


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Posted: 06 Jun 05, 13:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yeppo, 6 to 10 parts I think. That's just from listening to it now. However, might he have double tracked some parts to give it more, oomph?


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Posted: 06 Jun 05, 19:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Definitely some double-tracked parts. Either that or some delays to thicken up the entire sound.

Come on Bohardy, please help us... I'm not really good at working these things out. Brian was very careful to hide the orchestrations on the Queen albums. Have to go purely by ear. I haven't a bad ear, but it would take me forever to get it!

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Posted: 08 Jun 05, 03:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I reckon I could fake it, mind you I've only got 5 strings at the moment so I can't :(


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