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Posted: 08 Jun 05, 15:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I see someone (coleman-skip )is selling the Manchester gig on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1573&item=4736011610&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW#ebayphotohosting

I see they have already been selling the Brixton DVD as well.

Another one trying to profit from generosity of others - hit them with email telling them exactly what you think!

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Posted: 08 Jun 05, 15:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm beginning to think there may be only one solution to this.

And I'm giving it serious thought.

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Posted: 08 Jun 05, 17:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Penetration_Guru wrote:

I'm beginning to think there may be only one solution to this.

And I'm giving it serious thought.


Uh oh. PG's thinking about world domination again . . . ;-)


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Posted: 08 Jun 05, 17:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I can understand why alot of the seeders are pissed off, but I don't think stoppping seedign is the answer. After all if the concerts are freely available who is going to pay for the things? Common sense says that if you stop seeding you are purely playing into their hands as peopel are still going to want the stuff and will only be able to get it by paying. Unfortunately alot of the problems have arisen because many people are too protective of their bootlegs to share freely, take Houston 77 for example those that have it seem to ahve joined some secret society and won't part with it until the world freezes over. If concerts like this were made freely available to everyone there would be no market for chancers to sell it on ebay. Here endith the lesson.

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Posted: 08 Jun 05, 18:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Two words... Fuck Off

Do you think just because people are selling bootlegs on eBay, they are downloading them from Queenzone??

There are a lot more sources aswell as QZ u know...

For example, how the fuck do you know they haven't gone to the trouble to record the concert themselves??

With modern technology these days, it isn't that hard!



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Posted: 08 Jun 05, 18:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Before "peer to peer" software was available, I used to expend a fortune buying bootlegs, so restricted sharing will increase the bootleg market. As simple as that.
By the way, a big thank you to all the people sharing concerts.


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Posted: 09 Jun 05, 05:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

no there not allowed to sell on eBay - but tell the thousands of people on eBay who are selling things illegaly or against eBays rules

There's SHIT loads

Again like I said in the other section - people obviously lead sad lives if there bothered about this - and I take it - NO MATES, NO KIDS - VERY SAD

GET A LIFE


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Posted: 09 Jun 05, 05:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Traffic Zombie - I have mates and I have kids!

It is the element of community these leeches are helping to destroy and the buyers from ebay who are unwitting parties to it.

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Posted: 09 Jun 05, 05:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

How can they be unwilling parties if they are buying them

No one is forcing them to - I dont' totaly condone selling these things on eBay - but I have bought stuff off there (not Queen) as this is the ony way for me to get them

No one is forcing me

So buyers can't be unwilling


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Posted: 09 Jun 05, 05:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

sorry read it wrong

unwitting


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Posted: 09 Jun 05, 06:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

nevets wrote:

I can understand why alot of the seeders are pissed off, but I don't think stoppping seedign is the answer. After all if the concerts are freely available who is going to pay for the things? Common sense says that if you stop seeding you are purely playing into their hands as peopel are still going to want the stuff and will only be able to get it by paying. Unfortunately alot of the problems have arisen because many people are too protective of their bootlegs to share freely, take Houston 77 for example those that have it seem to ahve joined some secret society and won't part with it until the world freezes over. If concerts like this were made freely available to everyone there would be no market for chancers to sell it on ebay. Here endith the lesson.



Totally agree with you. 100%. Stopping to seed is far from being a solution. Report those bootleggers to the eBay administration or to QP if you will - and if QP take no action, why should we? Stopping the sharing will only increase their sales. Besides that, the community is benefitting a lot from the shared bootlegs. Don't stop a good thing going because of some idiots!

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Posted: 09 Jun 05, 09:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Penetration_Guru wrote:

I'm beginning to think there may be only one solution to this.

And I'm giving it serious thought.



I'm thinking about this too...
We have to make a serious thought about stopping all this. E-bay has a rule against bootlegs and unauthorized copy, so...



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Posted: 09 Jun 05, 11:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The most clever thing to do is to send a mail to e-bay administrators with the auction reference. They will stop it right away (I already saw this in December). In principle, the guys are very reactive. Sending a mail to QP would take ages for action (if any), and the auction would be finished before anything is done. As far as Queenzone is concerned, there is limited risk (at least regarding this issue), since it is hard to prove, from a legal point of view, that a bootleg comes from QZ (digital data can be downloaded from everywhere !).

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Posted: 09 Jun 05, 12:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

rvd wrote:

The most clever thing to do is to send a mail to e-bay administrators with the auction reference. They will stop it right away (I already saw this in December). In principle, the guys are very reactive. Sending a mail to QP would take ages for action (if any), and the auction would be finished before anything is done. As far as Queenzone is concerned, there is limited risk (at least regarding this issue), since it is hard to prove, from a legal point of view, that a bootleg comes from QZ (digital data can be downloaded from everywhere !).



Totally agree. Why don't we do this? I think E-bay must be informed of this situation as soon as possibile.
Personally, I don't think too that QZ can be involved, or at least it would be very hard to prove!
Let's do it!
Cheers,
L.


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Posted: 09 Jun 05, 12:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Brettles wrote:

Two words... Fuck Off

Do you think just because people are selling bootlegs on eBay, they are downloading them from Queenzone??

There are a lot more sources aswell as QZ u know...

For example, how the fuck do you know they haven't gone to the trouble to record the concert themselves??

With modern technology these days, it isn't that hard!



Brettles, learn to put your brain in operation and read the text properly before you put your head above the parapet, you only make yourself look fucking stupid. You missed the point entirely.

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Posted: 09 Jun 05, 15:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

There are some examples of people doing just this.

Cardiff was on ebay for a couple of days and there was only one source for that.

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Posted: 09 Jun 05, 21:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hello!
I think that the problem is not share or not share, the problem is eBay! Some month ago I try to sell on eBay a collection of film that I buy with a newspaper. All the film comes in original artwork and are copyrighted by the author. I register my self to eBay and create the page... after 1 hour eBay send me an email where say:
"Sorry, but your film are not legal and are cancelled by our system!"
Now people sell bootlegs, no "bootleg" but home made creation, in many of that there's the slogan Japanese Version or Original Japan Bootlegs...
I think the eBay rules are wrong!

Sorry for my english!

PS Many people buy concerts from this site www.queencollector.com, many of this are official release, why this site is open since 7 or 8 years?



Sorry for my english! :(
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Posted: 10 Jun 05, 14:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

One way to stop them is the sign up for an ebay account, bid on their items and 'buy' them, but then not pay and leave bad feedback for them

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Posted: 10 Jun 05, 14:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Are you stupid richard moshpit, or do you just sound it?

...Does it not occur to you that the seller can also leave you negative feedback?? And also, by agreeing to 'buy' the item, you are entering into a legal contract with the buyer??

No... obviously you didn't...

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Posted: 10 Jun 05, 14:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

What a cunt. I hate those stupid leeches.


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