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Posted: 19 Jun 05, 08:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I know this as prob been asked before, but how and when did freddie get aids. ive always lliked queen, but never known how he got this and which twat give it to him. Did he get it while in New York?


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Posted: 19 Jun 05, 08:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Check the earlier topic.. dealing the touring after magic tour..


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Posted: 19 Jun 05, 09:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sicmot wrote:

Check the earlier topic.. dealing the touring after magic tour..


http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=533697


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Posted: 19 Jun 05, 09:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Simple and polite answer: we don't know

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Posted: 19 Jun 05, 10:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

For me he contract the virus in the early 80's period (1982-'84).
And then the sieropositivity developed in AIDS in 1986 (during the Magic Tour).
Anyway Freddie knows to have the terrible disease only in April '87.


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Posted: 19 Jun 05, 10:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

According to Peter Freestone's book, Freddie didn't know until 1987 that he had got AIDS.

When he actually got it though no-one knows....

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Posted: 19 Jun 05, 11:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I agree Linda - the only confirmed knowledge is that from Peter Freestone's book. Anything else is just speculation.

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Posted: 19 Jun 05, 15:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font color=#FF399> Linda Of The Valley wrote:

I don't know why people HAVE to know. (I'm not dissing anyone, maybe you want to know for a project, or your just curious) but as Serry said we simply don't know. And I don't want to know, I don't really care, it's not important to me. And I don't think I've ever got into one of these discussions before but..






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Posted: 20 Jun 05, 00:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Anyways, can people just use the search button? Always the same topics.

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Posted: 20 Jun 05, 08:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I know now by all the logic evidence that Freddie must have contracted the virus early in eighties perhaps 81-82 from those smoky NYC gay clubs, since HIV spread among there first and his drug use, mostly cocaine, but also excessive alcohol and cigarette consumption affecting his immune system inhibiting the replication capability of his white cell's while rapiding the replication of hiv- virions resulted to premature onset of full-blown AIDS @ 86/early 87
(Can be clearly seen from certain footages of him how his facial appearance changed (Fat loss/re-distribution in his cheecks and around eyes due to hiv medication, AZT at first, then Septrim and other immunology stimulants)Its also of high probability he got several different (more aggressively advancing) strains of HIV having unprotected sex.. during the promiscuous years.. yet fastening the deteoration of his immune system which could have had maybe keep the first strain in check and thus prolong his life few years to come.. But one can never know for sure.I bet the cocaine use was the main cause, since in the beginning there were no studieds about drug's to health (in hiv positive persons) interractions. The incubation time from infection to state of full blown is knowingly average of 2 to 10 years, so Freddie was somewhere between.


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Posted: 20 Jun 05, 09:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Raffy wrote:

For me he contract the virus in the early 80's period (1982-'84).
And then the sieropositivity developed in AIDS in 1986 (during the Magic Tour).
Anyway Freddie knows to have the terrible disease only in April '87.


Seropositivity = (pathogen antibodies detected from blood serum) and seroconversion..(Event when when your immune system develops antibodies) Its guaranteed he had the first symptoms indicating infection within 2-4 weeks after the primary infection, but surpassed the symptoms as normal flu..


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Posted: 20 Jun 05, 17:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ravenetta wrote:

doesnt it take 10 years for HIV to go into AIDS or somehitng?

so did freddie contract AIDS itself and not HIV?


No no no!! U cant have AIDS without HIV first.. Hiv is the primary ilness and AIDS the last Lethal state of HIV infection when your Immune system cant handle infections and pathogens any longer and looses the bitter battle..

10 yrs is the best average.. in practise its something much varying from 2 to 20 yrs.. or even more for so called "LTNP" - Long term non progressors...




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Posted: 20 Jun 05, 17:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

did Freddie really use a lot of cocaine ?

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Posted: 20 Jun 05, 17:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

JDL2nd wrote:

did Freddie really use a lot of cocaine ?


Not everyday.. I guess mostly at weekends.. prior to going out to clubs.. it kept his spirit up and creative engine going.. and of course in bigger parties.


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Posted: 24 Aug 05, 02:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thats what really happened to him


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Posted: 24 Aug 05, 07:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Freddie was insane when it came to drugs.

Although he didn't take them every day he went overboard when it came to special events. He had a drugs buffet at parties etc (namely the Halloween 1978 party in the USA), and he was quite generous when offering guests cocaine etc. Apparently he even tested the drugs himself before serving them to guests to make sure it was of the highest quality.

There was an amazing article about it in the UNCUT magazine a couple of months ago.

Quoting from the magazine: 'Guests are greeted by hermaphrodite dwarves serving cocaine from trays strapped to their heads; the coke has been specially imported from Bolivia and quality checked by Mercury.'

'Line of marching powder as long and thick as your grandmother's arm, the guests are free to choose from a menu of exotic versions.'

Insanity lol


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Posted: 24 Aug 05, 07:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font color=black>andylamb_38 wrote:

Freddie was insane when it came to drugs.

Although he didn't take them every day he went overboard when it came to special events. He had a drugs buffet at parties etc (namely the Halloween 1978 party in the USA), and he was quite generous when offering guests cocaine etc. Apparently he even tested the drugs himself before serving them to guests to make sure it was of the highest quality.

There was an amazing article about it in the UNCUT magazine a couple of months ago.

Quoting from the magazine: 'Guests are greeted by hermaphrodite dwarves serving cocaine from trays strapped to their heads; the coke has been specially imported from Bolivia and quality checked by Mercury.'

'Line of marching powder as long and thick as your grandmother's arm, the guests are free to choose from a menu of exotic versions.'

Insanity lol


The dwarves thing has been proven false, hundreds of Queen employees and Queen members themselves said they never saw any with bowls of cocaine!


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Posted: 24 Aug 05, 07:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

But in the Mercury Million's documentary there is a person giving an eye witness account of a dwarve serving cocaine.

It would seem really pointless to lie about something like that.


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Posted: 24 Aug 05, 07:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font color=black>andylamb_38 wrote:

But in the Mercury Million's documentary there is a person giving an eye witness account of a dwarve serving cocaine.

It would seem really pointless to lie about something like that.


I think they said a dwarve on a table with food on him.


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Posted: 24 Aug 05, 07:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

That's just as insane lol


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