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Posted: 19 Jun 05, 10:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I know everybody is always making topics about the "great wonderfull" houston 1977 concert, so I apologize for making another topic about this. But I've to say someting and I'm very interested in your reactions. Everybody is always saying that this is a very good concert. Some even say that it's Queen's best concert. I absolutely don't agree with this. I have the audio files of this concert. So I can only give an opinion about how they played. I don't think they played that good. Let's have a look at how the bandmembers played :

Freddie : he was in great shape. Great vocals and great guitar playing.
Brian : he plays a lot of mistakes. He plays very nervously I think.
John : he was in great shape. He plays a lot of extra things in the songs. Listen to Get down make love, Tie your mother down, we are the champions, etc.
Roger : he is playing bad. He doesn't play fixed. You can count with his playing if you're not sure. It's very disorderly. Although I like his solo in KYA. he also sings false sometimes.

Conclusion : 2 bandmembers were really good.
I don't want to be too complaining (because there is also a lot of great stuff) but I don't think this is Queen's best show. I think people overrate this concert because of the myth around it.

What is your opinion about this "Houston 1977 concert" ???


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Posted: 19 Jun 05, 11:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It was a myth. Great gig, because not so many heard it...
BUT- it's still good IMO. Far from being greatest, but... AND ALSO- it's one of the best sounding ones, isn't it? Many ppl claim taht Earls Court or Hammy'75 are that awesome simply because they sound so perfect. But was the performance that good...?
Houston's the same. hammy'79 is muuuch better performance. Houston IS good, I love Fred's voice on this one. Brian did some mistakes but I like guitar sound on this boot- very crounchy. I lkie it- it's enjoyable, it's actually great, BUT it's nowhere near being the greatest performances they ever gave...
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Well it's much better than the bloody Wembley'86...

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Posted: 19 Jun 05, 11:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Freddie plays guitar? Are you sure???


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Posted: 19 Jun 05, 13:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Rick "The King" wrote:

Freddie plays guitar? Are you sure???


gheghe. srry. My mistake. It has to be "great piano playing".


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Posted: 19 Jun 05, 13:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"Sings false" ? I keep reading this fucking expression on unofficial Queen sites and forums. Explain how he is singing "false" would you!??! It sounds like youre talking in broken English.

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Posted: 19 Jun 05, 14:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

the_hero wrote:

there are better shows


Yes, but Houston is top notch of 1977, together with the two New York 1977 nights. It's really a good show, but indeed not THE best.


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Posted: 19 Jun 05, 14:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Negative Creep wrote:

It sounds like youre talking in broken English.


He probably is. Your punctuation isn't up to much. Is English your first language?

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Posted: 19 Jun 05, 21:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I would easily place it in the top ten of Queen boots.

Based on Houston's great sound, it is the best News of the World era boot to have. Add to this Love of my Life with a studio feel minus the football chants, a different slow version of We Will Rock You (with more of Brian Guitar's in the beginning and Roger's sycopated rythm), Keep Yourself Alive done with occasional electric drums in the solo, a different guitar solo, and a great version of Liar.


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Posted: 19 Jun 05, 22:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think this is a great show; however, I did notice that Brian wasn't at his best. The solo in Somebody To Love for instance, he absolutely butchered it. I guess even the greatest guitar player in the world sucks sometimes.

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Posted: 20 Jun 05, 01:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think the show buries Earls Court IMHO! Brian made mistakes on Milton Keynes yet that was released.


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Posted: 20 Jun 05, 02:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yeah, Houston is way better then Earls Court, if you talk about the performance. The atmosphere is better at Earls Court.


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Posted: 20 Jun 05, 02:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Great sound, Great performance... but the audience wasn't participative. That's why the show wasn't so good to me.


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Posted: 20 Jun 05, 03:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

To me every concert is great as long as the sound/bootleg quality is good. I know there were ups and downs and some my say that Freddie had a great voice that night or bad the other, that Brian did this and Roger did that and John did whatever. But the bottom line is that it is a live performance and nobody's perfect. In fact, I enjoy variety of sound and band's live interpretation of songs; and would rather listen to any concert rather than a studio recording. Queen had a great energy on stage and they played fantastic any day any night. So enjoy the show.
I would also like to thank all seeders for sharing all these great performances. Cheers!

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Posted: 20 Jun 05, 07:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes it is that good, so what if Brian played badly, whats new ?.

I had a bit of a play around with my version and added some effects, used some compression to balance the sound a bit it really pushes that audience volume up, added some EQ to boost the top end to brighten the sound a little and added some delay and reverb to stop it sounding so dry, it now has a very similar overall sound to Live Killers and sounds 100 x better than before.


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Posted: 20 Jun 05, 07:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I stuck the disc in my sterio at my house to listen to it and I told my dad that this was a really good concert. About 5:00 into the CD, my dad literally looked at me and said "Were they stoned when they did this?" It was a pretty good concert, but definitely not their best.

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Posted: 20 Jun 05, 09:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

This was a really great concert, though not their best.

To me, that will always belong to Live Aid. :-)

NTL, do you think you could send your remixed version of this concert to me? My email address is Woohoo5241@hotmail.com



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Posted: 20 Jun 05, 10:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

tummell wrote:

Negative Creep wrote:

It sounds like youre talking in broken English.


He probably is. Your punctuation isn't up to much. Is English your first language?


"Singing false" is the literal Dutch translation of "singing out of key". I am sure you'd be complaining if he wrote in Dutch too. You just can't win.....
By the way, if we eliminate all those whose first language isn't English, it's going to be a very quiet forum.

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Posted: 20 Jun 05, 11:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Is Houston 1977 really that good ? YES IT IS.

I wonder will we ever be satisfied with only one show Queen ever did? Please don't get me wrong, but... Before we got Houston 1977, there were so many voices claiming this was the best live show ever. Now nobody is satisfied with it. Before the release of On Fire, there were many voices claiming for it to be released. Now nobody likes it anymore and everybody finds lots of faults to that show. I'm pretty sure even Wembley 86 might have been more appreciated, had they never released the show.... Oh well, I hope they'd never release Hammersmith Odeon'75, Leeds'82 or any other show that's actually being appreciated on QZ, cos that's how they'd ruin it for ever!

I'm not saying Houston 1977 is perfect. But how come each and every thing that was once praised in here now gets twisted and criticised harshly?... So Houston might not be the best show. Neither are Milton Keynes nor Wembley. Earl's court is even weaker than Houston. Hammersmith Odeon is good only because it has good audio quality. Hyde Park sounds false. And Live Aid surely is crappy 80s performance. Oh well... so none of this shows is the greatest ever. But then which show is the best? I have no idea so far. Can 90% of this board get to agree on naming a show that might be the best ever? I very much doubt it. So either we are always dissatisfied with everything Queen ever did (is that the new definition of "being a fan"?), either Queen was one of the worst bands ever and nothing they did was any good... Call me stepford if you like, I won't get angry :)


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Posted: 20 Jun 05, 12:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"The atmosphere is better at Earls Court."

WHAT ATMOSPHERE?

You'd be forgiven if you thought they were playing to an empty house.

Thanks to the poor way it was filmed you don't see and hardly hear the crowd.

The only reason why fans think that Houston is the best concert EVER is beacuse of it's rareness and 'mystique'.

The sooner it get's an official release the better. Then the 'Houston myth' wll vanish forever and it will be just another Queen concert on DVD/Video.

From the official clips i've seen it looks like your typica Low-res poorquality 70s NTSC USA TV!


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Posted: 20 Jun 05, 12:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Fireplace wrote:

tummell wrote:

Negative Creep wrote:

It sounds like youre talking in broken English.


He probably is. Your punctuation isn't up to much. Is English your first language?


"Singing false" is the literal Dutch translation of "singing out of key". I am sure you'd be complaining if he wrote in Dutch too. You just can't win.....
By the way, if we eliminate all those whose first language isn't English, it's going to be a very quiet forum.


thanks