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Posted: 21 Jun 05, 13:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I have the Queen GVH2 DVD,which I like alot. I was curious however if it is possible to rip the audio from the DVD into mp3 format in the DTS 5.1 mix that also is available on the DVD, as it allows the songs to be heard in such better ways. my pc wouldnt play the DTS mix but I'm sure it would work for people with flasher hardware.

I only ask because I'd love to have mp3 copies of the tracks in DTS sound quality. Before I get accused of leeching, I own Hot Space,The Works, A Kind of Magic, The Miracle, so I'm not after the audio for illicit means.(If i was, why would I go to the trouble of the DTS mix anyway).

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Posted: 21 Jun 05, 13:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Get DVD Audio Extractor, from http://www.castudio.org/dvdaudioextractor/ but you may wish to be aware that most of the mixes on the GVH DVDs are actually 4.1 only. However, the aforementioned application will also rip the 6 channels from DVD-As. ;)


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Posted: 21 Jun 05, 14:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

it doesnt seem to want to play it on my pc when i've tried listening to the mixes previously.

but would it still rip them ok?



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Posted: 21 Jun 05, 14:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It does on mine. Make sure you tick the box to rip each channel as a separate file. You should get 6 files per track.


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Posted: 21 Jun 05, 22:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Lord Fickle wrote:

Get DVD Audio Extractor, from http://www.castudio.org/dvdaudioextractor/ but you may wish to be aware that most of the mixes on the GVH DVDs are actually 4.1 only. However, the aforementioned application will also rip the 6 channels from DVD-As. ;)


Not quite true. While the mixes themselves, for the most part, are mixed in a 4.1 setting, the actual DTS files are technically encoded as 5.1 files (6ch), with the centre channel silenced.

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Posted: 22 Jun 05, 03:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Lord Fickle wrote:

Get DVD Audio Extractor, from http://www.castudio.org/dvdaudioextractor/ but you may wish to be aware that most of the mixes on the GVH DVDs are actually 4.1 only. However, the aforementioned application will also rip the 6 channels from DVD-As. ;)

Inu-Liger<h6>-a.k.a. Richard Guilbault- wrote:

Not quite true. While the mixes themselves, for the most part, are mixed in a 4.1 setting, the actual DTS files are technically encoded as 5.1 files (6ch), with the centre channel silenced.


Well, doesn't that boil down to the same thing? You still only have 4.1 channels to play with, instead of 5.1. It's a bit of a con, particularly on GVH2, to say it's 5.1. They get away with it on GVH1, because Bohemian Rhapsody and You're My Best Friend are the DVD-A mixes, which are 5.1.


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Posted: 23 Jun 05, 05:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

DTS 4.1 (which is an actual spec) uses the channels completely differently to the '4.1' (5.1) on Hits 1 and 2.

DTS 4.1 have discrete audio signals for the center, left, and right channels, plus a MONO audio signal that is common for the rear channels.

Some old Hollywood musical DVDs use real 4.1 and even 4.0.

Queen use discreet audio for front L and R and rear L and R (plus LFE) which (as pointed out before) is still technically 5.1 with the centre channel left out.

The reason being that the centre stereo soundstage is good enough without the need for a centre channel.

There is no hard rule and is all down to preference of the sound producer/engineer (May and Shirley in this case) but doesn't mean to say it's the best or correct way.

Usually 'hi fi purists' from the old school (as is probably the case here) prefer to omit the centre channel

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Posted: 23 Jun 05, 06:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Kevo wrote:

DTS 4.1 (which is an actual spec) uses the channels completely differently to the '4.1' (5.1) on Hits 1 and 2.

DTS 4.1 have discrete audio signals for the center, left, and right channels, plus a MONO audio signal that is common for the rear channels.

Some old Hollywood musical DVDs use real 4.1 and even 4.0.

Queen use discreet audio for front L and R and rear L and R (plus LFE) which (as pointed out before) is still technically 5.1 with the centre channel left out.

The reason being that the centre stereo soundstage is good enough without the need for a centre channel.

There is no hard rule and is all down to preference of the sound producer/engineer (May and Shirley in this case) but doesn't mean to say it's the best or correct way.

Usually 'hi fi purists' from the old school (as is probably the case here) prefer to omit the centre channel


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Posted: 23 Jun 05, 12:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks for that clarification. :)


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Posted: 23 Jun 05, 23:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Umm, ripping the DTS audio from the dvd to then re-format as an mp3 file is a bit of an odd thing to do isn't it (in regards to the sound quality)? I mean you love the (relatively)uncompressed DTS signal, but want to compress it in to the god-aweful mp3 format. Seems counter-productive.


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Posted: 24 Jun 05, 02:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Queenfred wrote:

Umm, ripping the DTS audio from the dvd to then re-format as an mp3 file is a bit of an odd thing to do isn't it (in regards to the sound quality)? I mean you love the (relatively)uncompressed DTS signal, but want to compress it in to the god-aweful mp3 format. Seems counter-productive.

I think the reasons for doing this are mainly to make 'remixed' versions. If you encode to a higher MP3 quality, such as 256Kbps, the loss is negligable to most ears.


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Posted: 22 Mar 08, 02:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

why do people say the centre channelis not used? the guitar solo on the invisible man comesout of it before ending in the rear channels.
and flash, the movie dialogue comes from it too. and sweet lady, fred's vocal comes from that, and that had been mixed by justin shirley smith.

also while were talking about 5.1, why is my front channels really quiet compared to the rear and centre even when the latter has been turned down?


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Posted: 22 Mar 08, 15:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You know what's interesting, is that you can rip all 6 DTS channels to a single wav file and while it won't play on most players, it will go into NeroVision and if you have the multichannel plug-in, you can transform it into Dolby Digital and it puts the channels back in the right place :)

I did that to hear the mixes in proper surround before I had a DTS decoder. For the video part, you can just use a still image and use the 'slideshow' author.

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Posted: 23 Mar 08, 05:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I always rip all the 6 channels to one wav file. Winamp can play those wav files all you need is a surround soundcard. I also usually rip my dvds in direct demux stream so i get dts or ac3 files. Winamp can also play those files.