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Posted: 28 Jun 05, 12:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hello,
I saw on some website they have found the John Birch Red Special, (the one from the We Will Rock You and Spread Your Wings video) how did it get lost i know Brian lobbed it of the stage in frustration at one Queen concert
I think Brian is ungrateful for throwing it off the stage, it had a Tremolo and the works, and probably sounded better than any of our Red Specials, so anyone know why?


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Posted: 28 Jun 05, 12:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes, I know.

But since I've answered at least 90% of your questions with proper helpful answers and not had the courtesy of a thank you, you can fuck off.

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Posted: 28 Jun 05, 12:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

how good is the red special really I’ve tried one and i just couldn’t get the feel of it at all, might just be me as I’m used to playing a Les Paul

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Posted: 28 Jun 05, 14:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Johnny Knoxville wrote:

I think Brian is ungrateful for throwing it off the stage, it had a Tremolo and the works, and probably sounded better than any of our Red Specials, so anyone know why?


It had a tremolo did it? Geezzzzzzzzzz! Wow!! So thats how Brian did all those up and down type sounds..................... I'll sleep better knowing that now.


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Posted: 28 Jun 05, 15:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Johnny Knoxville wrote:
...probably sounded better than any of our Red Specials....


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Gotta be good - no wise ass remark...
Gotta be good - no wise ass remark...

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Posted: 28 Jun 05, 16:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

how may people on here own a red special

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Posted: 28 Jun 05, 18:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Miss Bea Haven wrote:



Johnny Knoxville wrote:
...probably sounded better than any of our Red Specials....


Gotta be good - no wise ass remark...
Gotta be good - no wise ass remark...
Gotta be good - no wise ass remark...


. . . I haven't said a word, but barely maintaining. Hang in there Miss Bea ;-)


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Posted: 28 Jun 05, 19:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I own a 1993 Guild Signature Red Special, and I can honestly say that it is the best guitar I have ever played. I haven't tried the later Burns models.

I play through a Vox Tonelab SE, and take the stereo output to 2 Vox 'Deacy' amps. These amps are brilliant on their own, but with the AC30 modelling on the Tonelab they sound awesome.

I also own one of the original Guild treble booster pedals, but haven't used it for a long time - although when I did use it I got some good sounds.

Remember though that 90% of the sound is in the fingers. Although I can sometimes convince (delude) myself that I am approaching 'that' sound, there is always something missing.


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Posted: 28 Jun 05, 23:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

One would wonder if J.K. is intentionally trying to take the piss or not...

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Posted: 29 Jun 05, 11:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

SEND ME YOUR GUITAR. I'll get the fuckin' thing to work.


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Posted: 29 Jun 05, 12:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I wonder about Johnny K.
He has asked questions nobody should be asking.
His subjects include which wire to pull in BhoRap. Which knob to play with how does Brian work his knob etc.
The triangle is a much more suitable instrument.
If you want a electric triangle you could find an electrical receptacle in your house and attach one wire to your triangle and the other to yourself. You should be able to produce a unique sound which even Brian hasn't found yet.

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Posted: 29 Jun 05, 21:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Zebonka12 wrote:

SEND ME YOUR GUITAR. I'll get the fuckin' thing to work.


Roarin'. Hehehe

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Posted: 29 Jun 05, 22:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You neglected to mention the part about standing in a metal tub partially filled with water. In fact, I believe salt water might even be advised to improve the conductivity.

TQ, will gladly split the bill with you for the wiring job.


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Posted: 30 Jun 05, 07:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Count me in you guys. The check is in the mail.

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Posted: 21 Feb 06, 19:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I have one of the 40 ever made Guild "Green" Red Specials on eBay right now and let me tell you something! NOTHING beats the 93' Guilds for what they are as just a guitar, nevermind a copy of Brian's actual guitar which I have played. It's a totally different beast. If you've heard of, or even NOT heard of "www.kzguitarworks.com" then THAT's what you want to save up for to exactly match what Brian made with his dad back in 63'ish.... that's an exact replica and a lot more competitively priced than anything better... that's my 2 pence! ;^) Have a nice day!

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Posted: 22 Feb 06, 04:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yep there pretty damn close, but so are the Andrew Guytons.

But the Burns model does get a very close tone to Brians original if used in conjunction with the same amps and treble booster.

Also just with the deacy amp it works a treat when recorded.


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Posted: 22 Feb 06, 06:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hello Michael, could you please post a link to your ebay auction?

Do Kzguitarworks have a license to build a Red Special Replica?

Also: why did Brian end his cooperation with Burns, it was a very successful product. Do you happen to know?



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Posted: 22 Feb 06, 06:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Johnny Knoxville wrote:

Hello,
I saw on some website they have found the John Birch Red Special, (the one from the We Will Rock You and Spread Your Wings video) how did it get lost i know Brian lobbed it of the stage in frustration at one Queen concert
I think Brian is ungrateful for throwing it off the stage, it had a Tremolo and the works, and probably sounded better than any of our Red Specials, so anyone know why?


Whoever has it, is in possession of stolen property, it was thrown off stage after a techincal problem and then vanished! the neck was broken at the time so it will probably still be unplayable.

As for why, well he's a rockstar, that's what they do.

Post the link to who has it


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Posted: 22 Feb 06, 07:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

3000us$ for a Guild sounds a bit pricey to me... Anyone knows how much the sold it new, back in the 90's? I plan to acquire a RS from Rs-guitars.com (2699$), but i don't know whether i should go for the "fat" neck or the thinned one (i presently own a Burns & i'm quiet hapy with the neck width, but being permanently unsatisfied i wish to change for a bit better). Anyone has "experience" with RS Guitars...? Thank you:)

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Posted: 22 Feb 06, 07:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Togg wrote:



Whoever has it, is in possession of stolen property, it was thrown off stage after a techincal problem and then vanished! the neck was broken at the time so it will probably still be unplayable.

As for why, well he's a rockstar, that's what they do.

Post the link to who has it


You wanna know who has it? This is gonna be pretty funny...

http://www.brianmay.com/brian/johnbirchguitar/johnbirchguitar.html

http://www.brianmay.com/brian/letters/lettersmay04.html#28

Peace,
Adam.