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Posted: 27 Jul 05, 11:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Lots of people seem think that the Magic Tour setlist was lame, and too "80's hits oriented". Hmmmm... What about the miraculous return of In The Lap Of The Gods ? The acoustic part ? Seven Seas Of Rhye ? Liar (well, a bit of it), Immigrant Song, Big friggin' Spender as a first encore ?!

Good enough for me, even with the infamous inclusion of Friends Will Be Friends between WWRY and WATC!



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Posted: 27 Jul 05, 11:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

:)
Plant had the opportunity to retaliate when he butchered Innuendo at the FMT !

But then the both these songs are very demanding

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Posted: 27 Jul 05, 11:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

IMO the Works tour had the perfect mix of old and new material, Freddie played much more piano again than on the HS tour, but unfortunately the overall performance and Freddie's voice were mostly weaker compared to other tours.

For the Magic tour:I like these shows very much, but I think they could really have performed more old songs and it would have been no problem to add one or two songs more to the setlist with the average show lenght being ca.105 minutes.

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Posted: 27 Jul 05, 12:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Those who hate the magic tour can go to hell!!!
Robbie William rules! Queen should have gotten him for the magic tour, would have made it a lot better since Freddies voice was horriable during that tour...


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Posted: 27 Jul 05, 13:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Magic tour was OK. Hardly any variation in the songlist plus the band played like they either don't care or they're bored. It is especially evident at Knebworth, the last stop on the tour and the show has no energy. Listen to Hammersmith 79, MK 82, even Rock in Rio had a lot of energy. The only good show from magic tour was Budapest and the only reason why Queen played good was that the show was behind the iron curtain and they wanted to give the best show ever, and so they did.

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Posted: 27 Jul 05, 13:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

wstüssyb wrote:

Those who hate the magic tour can go to hell!!!
Robbie William rules! Queen should have gotten him for the magic tour, would have made it a lot better since Freddies voice was horriable during that tour...


LOL William!

BTW, I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the Magic Tour! Just because their earlier tours were better, does not take any merit away from the Magic Tour in itself.

I thought Knebworth did suck. But maybe they were just tired from touring and it would have been better to go out on with a bang, on top at either Wembley or Budapest. But overall, the tour was good, I love the songs, new as well as old, and I thought Freddie's voice and the band's musicianship was just fine.


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Posted: 27 Jul 05, 14:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The opening show in Stockholm 1986 and Paris 1986 are the best shows of the tour, IMHO. Freddie in excellent shape.


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Posted: 27 Jul 05, 15:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

ahh.. the magic tour..memories :)
i loved the magic tour freddie's voice was great and more powerfull on some shows and some he seemed tired but he was still !! spectacular it's just that we/fans expect that same high standard every single show lol, who knows freddie's illness may have effected him in some ways b/c it was only one year after he was suffering a hell of alot etc. he was amazing at newcastle!
there was nothing wrong with r-plants voice at the tribute he just couldn't sing a queen song he himself admitted most perfomers had to change the key to the songs as they couldn't do a freddie!!
i think everyone at some point has an off day that includes freddie.


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Posted: 27 Jul 05, 16:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font color=green>Rick wrote:

The opening show in Stockholm 1986 and Paris 1986 are the best shows of the tour, IMHO. Freddie in excellent shape.


hmmm i really don't like the opening show. Maybe Freddie is in good shape but the audience is really annoying. They are screaming: "fuck you, we want Marrilion" and things like that.

I like Budapest 1986.

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Posted: 27 Jul 05, 23:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I actually like that song!!!

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Posted: 28 Jul 05, 03:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I always thought that Knebworth was the best show of the tour because people always request this concert to be released !?!

And I think Plant has an excellent voice and if it's not as good as it used to be it's still very impressive anyway IMO ;)

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Posted: 28 Jul 05, 07:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i heard or seen 6 or seven shows from that tour budapest is the best imo



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Posted: 28 Jul 05, 07:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Budapest and Knebworth are awesome. Even first night at Wembley was better than the one on DVD... Setlist? I didn't like it- it was nice they came back to In The Lap Of The Gods... Revisited after 11-12 years- and witha different version. That was awesome. But too many piano based songs were dropped IMO, especially STL... It was too much of Works- AKOM hits IMO- don't like both albums so the setlist with majority of the singles from that era is not what I like... And it was less ROCK than any other tour (together with WORKS). AND Brian's guitar sound on that tour was just absolutly AWFUL...

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Posted: 28 Jul 05, 07:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

tilomagnet wrote:

IMO the Works tour had the perfect mix of old and new material, Freddie played much more piano again than on the HS tour, but unfortunately the overall performance and Freddie's voice were mostly weaker compared to other tours.


i see everybody noticed that
great setlist, poor tour
what went wrong on the works tour?


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Posted: 28 Jul 05, 07:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:

Alex Solan wrote:

Fone Bone wrote:

:)
Plant had the opportunity to retaliate when he butchered Innuendo at the FMT !

But then the both these songs are very demanding


There's a difference between Plant and Freddie, Freddie could have done a better version than that one but he didn't... dunno why. Plant at that time (1992) couldn't. Plant WAS a great singer, not anymore.


Well, neither Roger nor Freddie had the technical capacity to do the intro, I'm afraid. If Freddie had done it, he'd not have any vocal cords left for the rest of the show!

I do feel that the song'd have been better if he had bothered to learn the words!


Guys... Innuendo was released as a single in January 1991. Freddie wasn't able anymore to do a live show at that time.



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Posted: 28 Jul 05, 07:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

s.m. wrote:


i see everybody noticed that
great setlist, poor tour
what went wrong on the works tour?




Freddie's voice I suppose...

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Posted: 28 Jul 05, 07:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

s.m. wrote:

i see everybody noticed that
great setlist, poor tour
what went wrong on the works tour?

Drum sound
Keyboards too high on the mix (and sometimes Spike's BVs as well)
Freddie too often in a bad shape (vocally)
Terrible costumes...

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Posted: 28 Jul 05, 07:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i mean the last japan for example
in 85´
stage looks great, freddie at that particular concert sounded good, but that weird drums
what is that?
they sounded like shit
and piano on tie your mother down
i mean wtf

and brian is hardly heard, his gituar is kind of silent
i mean, there were some bad decisions made od that tour
shame, because of great setlist


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Posted: 28 Jul 05, 07:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I agree with the fact that there wasn't enough old material on the set list, i would have really loved it if they put in songs like somebody to love and spread your wings etc.

But they included In the Lap of The Gods, which is one of my favourite songs, so i guess everythings ok lol

I only really know the setlist they had for Wembley, so i couldn't really comment on the whole tour, as i know they varied some parts of the setlist slightly for different shows.


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Posted: 28 Jul 05, 08:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I don't know what you lot are moaning about there being lots of songs from AKOM. After all this WAS the magic tour and not the night at the opera or the crazy tour so of course they played songs from that album!

What’s the point on going on tour playing mostly old songs?