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Posted: 29 Jul 05, 13:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

thanks for what you have done , make's a 37yr old queen fan beam lot's . keep doing what you are doing . you guy's should collabirate on something ( hint hint SHEER HEART ATTACK ALBUM ) . as brian would say (YOU GUYS ARE GREAT ) .


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Posted: 29 Jul 05, 13:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well, thank you! :)

But one topic is enough :)
Or do you expect so many reaction :p


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Posted: 29 Jul 05, 17:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Indeed, thank you!


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Posted: 06 Aug 05, 05:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hi Lord and Dan,
just wanna say I like most of your mixes very much - quite inspiring (since I'm fiddling around with some songs myself ...) - so: Thanks to you both!!
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Posted: 07 Aug 05, 22:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Y'know, an entire-album remix might be a nifty idea.
Like that Queen II Uncovered album circulaterin' the Web.


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Posted: 08 Aug 05, 08:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'll take the next DVD-A! ;)


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Posted: 08 Aug 05, 11:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

If we're really gonna do this, I think I'll take 'The Miracle' album ;)


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Posted: 08 Aug 05, 11:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Lord Fickle wrote:

I'll take the next DVD-A! ;)


Amen to that!

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Posted: 08 Aug 05, 12:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I've heard some of that QII 'Uncovered' remix, and, to be honest, I thought most of it was quite poor. There was also other remixes on that site, and one I heard of Breakthru was laughable. I couldn't believe how good mine was, in comparison, so I think we can collectively do a lot better than 'Uncovered', and the like.

However, I have two issues:-

1. Sooner or later, some bastard is going to find this site, copy our remixes, and make a profit from them. This would annoy me immensely, but currently, I see, and know of, no measures which could stop this.

2. Secondly, I don't think I would want to commit myself to doing a whole album, but collectively, we could all choose x number of tracks to try, and I think that would be better. Personally, I think I would get bored sticking too long to one album. I like the spontaneity of hearing a track, and thinking, yes, I could do something with that.

I'm not inclined to remix tracks I don't like, so if, for example, like Dan, I chose The Miracle, I would then have to endure dross like Party, My Baby Does Me and Rain Must Fall, which, to me would be totally uninteresting, and would probably produce an equally uninspiring remix.


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Posted: 08 Aug 05, 12:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

So actually what you're saying is that the way we're doing it now is the best way?, could agree with that :)


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Posted: 08 Aug 05, 12:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

In my opinion, yes, Dan. I prefer the more casual approach.


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Posted: 11 Aug 05, 21:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

GREAT JOB GUYS!!!!!


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Posted: 19 Aug 05, 23:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sometimes I wonder if some of you have heard the "old" fanmixes that have been around the web since early 1997. That was the time: almost no instrumentals (except some b-sides and the then very hard to get japanese karaoke VHS or the even harder to get LD), no Freddie box, no 5.1 releases to get "clean" channels from, etc. A whole "generation" of fanmixers did it the hard way, so let's show some respect ...for the old.

I am pretty sure that when you get tired of all the cross-flattering you will get bored too or perhaps you will get your ears on more exciting stuff (sound-wise - do not get me wrong;-) so you will have to cut down your time for amateur mixing. The point is that sooner or later you will find that everyone, no matter how good you are, can make "crappy" stuff.

Ron has been a pretty good critic of his own work. Maybe he knew he should not "release" the whole bunch of "uncovered mixes", but he did it anyway just to be true to his original idea.

By the way, I quit doing this in 1999. Then I was hired by RIVENDEL (a local QUEEN cover band) to produce their recordings and nowadays I am still connected with the QUEEN sound in various projects. But no more fanmixing for me - being my last mixes pure crap. Now I feel lucky that at least I did not expose myself to the hard criticism of the "new generations" of fanmixers. ;-)

Still, I must confess that I love this section. Do not get mad at me.

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Posted: 20 Aug 05, 04:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Some of the 'old' fan mixes I have heard were truly dreadful. I heard one of Breakthru, and the transition from the 12" mix back to the album mix, was a totally out of sync cross fade, with practically a gap in the middle! Granted, maybe the software wasn't available then, and we have that to our advantage now.

Wilki, I'm not quite sure where you are coming from here - is this a genaral slagging off of 'new' mixers, or do you genuinely consider our mixes to be "crappy"? Personally, I do these for my own enjoyment. I also have the opportunity, though this forum, to share these with other like minded people, which I would otherwise have little chance to do. "Cross-flattery"? I would call it credit where credit's due, and acknowledgement of people's time and effort in producing these "amateur" mixes, which most people here seem to enjoy.


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Posted: 20 Aug 05, 04:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

why can't people just say thanks and enjoy these mixes that people put up here and stop pulling and picking and judging and just turn up the volume and relax . thanks to everyone for the mixes . good wekend to you all .


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Posted: 20 Aug 05, 04:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i mean't weekend , before anyone start's on that


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Posted: 20 Aug 05, 09:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

About software apparently not being available back then. Wrong. Cool Edit, for example, has been available a very, very long time. That's the software that became Cool Edit Pro and then Adobe Audition. And of course, even I used to use some shitty little software back in 1998 called DDclip. In fact, a few days back I reinstalled it to listen to some old multitrack songs. Bliss..!

Anyway, the software has been around for a VERY long time. Much longer than say, 1994. Very little has changed in that dept. Editing software is still editing software. And let me be the first to agree that those older mixes from elsewhere are usually disappointing. I never understood why there were people that really loved them. Maybe just cause they were starved of original material. Who knows.

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Posted: 20 Aug 05, 11:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I would not say a word about software not being available in that time. In fact, the basic editing tools are pretty the same as in the early 90s. Of course now you have more pre-set effects, nice plugins, etc. But the basic features were the same. Well, I just remembered doing some command line programs to apply mathematical expressions to the waveforms because it took ages to do all the necessary steps within the first editing programs. Anyway, as Adam's words suggest, there was a fast improvement in that area in the early 90s - and also the soundcards became better and cheaper. I know this very well as I started mixing music with computers in 1989, when the sampling quality of most non-pro audio cards was very limited. In fact, I preferred my analog multitrack machine by then...

But enough reminiscences - as they have nothing to do with point I was trying to make earlier.

Regarding mixing, different people have different learning curves - just as in most human activities. And a very good way to learn is through constructive criticism - I agree with that. Adam here is a very good example. He does not only say things like "I do not like this" or "that didn't work for me" but he also justifies his point of view. Also there is another curve, which I would name "boring curve" when some people start to feel that way (it might be that they only wanted to learn some techniques, or that they got frustrated very soon, or that they just wanted to test every effect in their software - I have heard examples of the last over and over, now and then ;-) and then decide to move on and start doing other kind of stuff. Which I feel it is not right is to pick some random old tracks out of context and then destroy them when you do not know the motivations behind them. As you have surely noticed, most of you have the need to make brief statements when you post your own mixes.

Anyway, it is not big deal. Surely there were bad stuff back then. As there is now. As there will always be. But while some of the old mixes were technically not perfect, most of them were also made with some plan in mind. After all, most of the mixes here, if taken out of context, are just somebody playing around with some DVD-A ripped tracks/instrumentals/etc. with no previous purpose - no matter how technically perfect, that seems plain easy.

So, to prove myself wrong, I might start a competition with some strange rules and a prize. What do you think? Would you like to be a judge, Adam?

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Posted: 20 Aug 05, 11:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

If it's anything like the last "competition", which was basically a one man judge and jury, I will pass, thanks. I don't feel the need to impress any one individual, no disrespect intended.


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Posted: 20 Aug 05, 11:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

None taken. :-). Of course the winner should be choosed by voting. I just want to make the rules. Perhaps with Adam if he wants to.