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Posted: 03 Aug 05, 09:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hi, guys!
I'm a bit irritated about certain motherf***ers, who parasitize on what concerns Queen.
I mean for example Eric Hall (former BBC person), who has recently told the world about the "Killer Queen" origin. He says that Freddie wrote this song for him, explaining that he (Freddie) was the queen and Eric was the killer, because he hadn't allowed Fred to have sex with him..........................
WHAT A BULLSHIT!
Everyone knows the following TRUE facts:
1) Freddie himself explained the meaning of "Killer Queen": "It is about a high-class call-girl. I wanted to say that classy people can be whores too..."
2) Look through the lyrics carefully: it IS about a woman, who is a whore and who comes from higher society. It has nothing to do with Eric Hall and Freddie's intention to sleep with him :)
3) Everybody knows that Freddie wasn't gay-oriented at that moment.
4) Eric Hall is the ONLY person who told us this kind of information. And nobody has confirmed it.
5) Why was he silent for so many years, when all so-called secrets relating to Freddie have been already revealed since his death????
6) Even if Freddie had told Eric about it, it would have been a Freddie's style joke.
I think Eric just wants to arrange PR for himself. And what do you, guys, think about it?


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Posted: 03 Aug 05, 09:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ah I don't worry about it. These people who say these things are too wrong to even pretend to be right.

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Posted: 03 Aug 05, 09:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

antiden wrote:


I think Eric just wants to arrange PR for himself.


Agree (soglasen)

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Posted: 03 Aug 05, 10:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Agree.


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Posted: 03 Aug 05, 20:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

yeah exactly i mean wtf is this eric hall guy?
just as the hero was written about me cos i am quite literally a hero............
oh no i mean 'liar' lol


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Posted: 05 Aug 05, 01:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

same with WATC being a gay anthem, even though he was gay, Freddie wasn't very open about it, besides being in one of his first relationships, I always thought Freddie as being indifferent to being gay, yknow? Like 'I'm gay and thats ok, but nothing else', not that I have a problem with it, but I dont think Freddie would be out there parading for gay rights. Hed probably be married to jim, but thats just cause it would be time.


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Posted: 05 Aug 05, 05:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

So, what is your point of view concerning "Killer Queen"??


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Posted: 05 Aug 05, 05:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

By the way, those who claim WATC being a gay anthem - are so stupid and ignorant...
It IS A ROCK/SPORT/LIFE anthem!!!!!!!!!!


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Posted: 05 Aug 05, 07:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I saw the documentary where the ex-boyfriend of Freddie's claimed "Killer Queen" was about him.

It's worth pointing out that in 1974-75, it's highly unlikely Freddie would have answered an interviewer with, "Well, Mr. Journalist, the song is about this man I'm fooling around with, since I'm just now realizing I'm gay, even though I'm still shacked up with my girlfriend Mary."

There's a also possibility that the lyrics were what people call a "metaphor" or "allusion" for this guy. It's also called an "in-joke."

Also: gay men often refer to other gay men, especially ones they are friendly with, with the feminine pronoun, i.e., "she."

There's also the possibility that Freddie said "Killer Queen" was about him to get this guy to into bed. I think the former boyfriend himself said it's quite possible he said to a lot of men!

Then again, if could be about high-class call girl, and Freddie just made shit up afterwards. That would require the least work.


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Posted: 05 Aug 05, 07:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Freddie *was* experimenting with homosexuality at that point, however, at least according to Brian and other people who were there in other documentaries. That's worth pointing out.

IMHO, I don't think the dude was really being a parasite, a la Laura Jackson writing three books about Queen that are basically the same one.

He just seemed really excited that he had an ex-boyfriend who was Freddie Mercury.


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Posted: 05 Aug 05, 09:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Is that really important to know?
I mean, Killer Queen is a great song and in my opinion has the most beautifull melody that Freddie ever wrote. As for it`s meaning, who cares?!!

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Posted: 05 Aug 05, 09:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yeah, that's true. It is a great song, and leave it at that.

The "documentary" in question, is called "Freddie's Love," I think, which is a rehash-type of show, along the lines of an E! True Hollywood show. Not exactly the final word on anything historically accurate.

I do think people react violently when the idea that some of Freddie's songs may have anything -- anything -- to do with his being a gay man. I think there's something more than slighly phobic about it. If it was some hottie gal, it'd be brushed over a little more easily. But then again, I'm a little more touchy about these matters.


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Posted: 04 Sep 14, 15:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

But who refers to a girl or woman as "Queen"? Princess, MAYBE. But "queen" is a word associated with gay men. The song's about a rich, bitchy, jet set queen (i.e. gay male). Deal with it, Mary.

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Posted: 04 Sep 14, 15:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

DICKHEAD ALERT!

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Posted: 04 Sep 14, 16:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

mooghead wrote:

DICKHEAD ALERT!


Is that your new signature?


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Posted: 04 Sep 14, 16:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

antiden wrote:

By the way, those who claim WATC being a gay anthem - are so stupid and ignorant...
It IS A ROCK/SPORT/LIFE anthem!!!!!!!!!!


Well, it's taken on that importance, but Freddie did just write it as a 'fuck you' to the snobby producers etc. who thought they'd fail, and the tabloids who continued to criticise them despite huge success.

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Posted: 04 Sep 14, 16:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Daniel Nester wrote:
The "documentary" in question, is called "Freddie's Love," I think, which is a rehash-type of show, along the lines of an E! True Hollywood show. Not exactly the final word on anything historically accurate.


Quite an awful documentary really. I don't mean that as homophobia at all, I mean it's a bunch of spiteful guys spitting out very private details of their friend's life, presumably to draw attention to themselves.

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I do think people react violently when the idea that some of Freddie's songs may have anything -- anything -- to do with his being a gay man. I think there's something more than slighly phobic about it. If it was some hottie gal, it'd be brushed over a little more easily. But then again, I'm a little more touchy about these matters.


Pf. I don't think anyone can claim that Good Old Fashioned Lover Boy isn't written from a homosexual standpoint (even if apparently jokingly), and that's never affected my enjoyment of it at all :)

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Posted: 04 Sep 14, 22:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Killer Queen is about a high class man whore, and given that Fred indicated that he is not only a musical prostitute, but that he also likes to slut himself while in New York, the Killer Queen is the man himself: Freddie!

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Posted: 05 Sep 14, 00:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

But he wasn't promiscuous in gay circles in 1974, nor had he said the musical prostitute thing. Plus, the way I understand it, 'musical prostitute' wasn't meant as a sexual remark, more to say that his style borrowed freely from all over the place.

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Posted: 05 Sep 14, 06:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well shucks, if you don't like the gay theme i would stay away from most of Freddie's songs pal.


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