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Posted: 14 Aug 05, 14:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's just a question - so no jumping on me please!

I was watching a couple of television documentaries I had recorded this afternoon - and basically they got me thinking...

First: Psychological profiles. Usually used by the police to create a picture of wanted criminals, but essentially, you can build up a psychological identity of someone from the music they listen to. For example, we can all picture our "typical" gansta rapper, country and western fan, or Hard ' n heavy rocker.

Second: Obsessional Compulsive Behaviours. This can lead to debilitating circumstnces like washing one's hands 2-300 times per day, or placing one's food on the plate so that one food item does not touch another.

So here are the questions:

What is the Psychological profile of a "typical" Queen fan? (Are we super-intelligent - or more like "Star Trek" geeks?), and do we (considering the exteremes we collectors go to) suffer from some type of Obsessive Compulsive Behaviour?

Finally, do you think the band (or their marketing teams) cash in on this? I mean, who else (thinking of Innuendo here) has released an edited version of their CD album, to increase sales within their fan base, and, furthermore, could this be the reasoning behind releasing "rarities" drip-by-drip, rather than the promised all encompassing box-sets?


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Posted: 15 Aug 05, 04:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

We're all psychos here with no life and emphasis on serial killings, witch craft and random chat room postings. After all there are no stupid questions, only 'blink blink' people who ask questions, if you know what I mean.

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Posted: 15 Aug 05, 11:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Some of us like Sharon G. appear to have
an un natural obsession with Freddie.

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Posted: 15 Aug 05, 11:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

No criticism whatsoever.
Absolutely blind with devotion, multiplied by the fact that the Queen story (and espacially the one of late Freddie Mercury) is actually really dramatic. Because of that they feel and think that their love is special and better than anyone else's. Hence the unability to appreciate any other artist or actually aknowledge any change (see: the last Tour threads). Extremely possesive of a Freddie Mrcury legend, almost agressive when confronted. Feel that they own the band because they still cry after Freddie (16 years!!!!) and because of that they feel they know him better than other band members or even his own parents... Confronting is not recommended- may become dangerous or at least unpleasant...
Also extremely gullible- will buy anything with QUEEN written on it- be it chocolate bar or a 1st class stamp... Pretentiuous, proud and naive... And some bad taste as well evident, especially when defending RARE LIVE or HOT SPACE or 5ive collaboration :P

If you don't fit the picture- either:
a) "good on you- you're just enjoying great music"
b) "the power of denial is amazing"...

Negative? Maybe- but we'e talking "AVARAGE" Queen fan, not the reasonbable folk from QZ... ;) Take it with a pinch of salt... but some of it is unfortunatelly true...

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Posted: 15 Aug 05, 11:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Have to agree with you on this one... Even recognised myself in some lines, lol.


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Posted: 15 Aug 05, 11:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Little_Queenie wrote:

Have to agree with you on this one... Even recognised myself in some lines, lol. Btw, are you talking from your own experience?;)



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Posted: 15 Aug 05, 11:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I feel like if collectors have sufficient funds to support extreme collecting, then it's just an expensive hobby. However, if a collector is getting themselves into hordes of credit card debt and needs to refinance their home to support their habit, then that might fall under the obsessive compulsive label.

I've been a Queen fan for around 14 years now, drop in the bucket to some I know, and my fandom has gone under various stages. I don't find myself watching videos every single day at this point or collecting like I used to. It doesn't mean I don't love the music just as much as when I first heard it. I am just not as obsessed as a lot on here about knowing every little Queen fact.

Having said that, I did put $1200 on my credit card for VIP NJ tickets and intend on seeing multiple shows next year. If that makes me a bit strange, then so be it...:-)

Oh..and about the marketing. Yes, I feel like we are taken advantage of. I'm sure the majority of us on here own several copies of all the albums and will continue to buy any new releases...even if it's just a rehash of the same or a "drip-by-drip" release of rarities instead of one nicely packaged COMPLETE boxset/s.

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Posted: 15 Aug 05, 12:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Who do you call a fan?

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Posted: 15 Aug 05, 17:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

A bunch of fags really to tell you the truth is what they think of Queen fans. Their is also a fine line between between most Queenzoners and a Queen fan. Most of the Qzers are morons who have nothing better to do then flame the board.......yeah.......dicks......?

But most do have the compulsive disorder and most are retards with no life whatsoever.

A Queen fan I think is a chill out guitar player who like Beatles, Pink Floyd, Rolling Stones, the Who and other great bands. Not the shit today though

"Finally, do you think the band (or their marketing teams) cash in on this? I mean, who else (thinking of Innuendo here) has released an edited version of their CD album, to increase sales within their fan base, and, furthermore, could this be the reasoning behind releasing "rarities" drip-by-drip, rather than the promised all encompassing box-sets?"

Yes.


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Posted: 16 Aug 05, 04:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I am sure that Queen music attracts lots of nutters - just read some entries on the Freddie tribute page and you will find some examples. I have also heard of cases of obsession concerning the band (stalking) and collecting.

I do not agree that Queenzoners in general are obsessed and hate each other. Serry quoted the thread about Wembley/Budapest but you will see that the unfriendly stuff there was posted by people nobody really knows here. Long term Queenzoners are funny, intelligent and share their hobby. Most of the rubbish posted on the notice board comes from people who stay here for a couple of weeks and never contribute something useful.

Queen fans in general are friendly, tolerant, helpful and have a sense of humour. That's my experience from a couple of Dutch Queen Parties and the recent tour. Mainly on the tour I was impressed by the fans who travelled the continent to see as many shows as possible and helped each other reducing the costs. They shared cars and homes and stood in the rain for hours to be in front row or to get a signature from the band. Actually, I think the band does not deserve them considering Brian's complaints about the bother they are with their requests for autographs and photos. I am not the only one who thinks that the tour was such an exceptional experience because of the people you got to know and the friendship you could so easily start with all these fantastic people.



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Posted: 16 Aug 05, 08:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes, YV, but John asked about Queen fans, not only Queenzoners... And those 'new at QZ' fans are fans as well... Thanks God, there's no a lot of them (SUCH fans)!

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Posted: 16 Aug 05, 08:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes, Serry, the fans I met on conventions and the tour were not all Queenzoners:)


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Posted: 16 Aug 05, 09:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Before the Hyde Park gig the staff were given a "profile of a typical Queen fan" (a couple of A4 pages, not much info really).

I don't remember much of it but among others it said something like:
- typical age: 35-45
- potential alcohol drinker: yes

(I remember these two because the "typical R.E.M. fan" is apparently 25-35 years old and doesn't drink alcohol).

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Posted: 16 Aug 05, 09:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Mr. Scully:

- typical age: 35-45
- potential alcohol drinker: yes

Jeepers, that's me nailed - kinda spooky isn't it!!


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Posted: 16 Aug 05, 09:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

YourValentine wrote:

Queen fans in general are friendly, tolerant, helpful and have a sense of humour. That's my experience from a couple of Dutch Queen Parties and the recent tour. Mainly on the tour I was impressed by the fans who travelled the continent to see as many shows as possible and helped each other reducing the costs. They shared cars and homes and stood in the rain for hours to be in front row or to get a signature from the band. Actually, I think the band does not deserve them considering Brian's complaints about the bother they are with their requests for autographs and photos.


I think it's wrong for Brian or Roger to complain about giving autographs, but there is the stalking factor, especially with Roger, that sometimes screws it up for the rest of us normal folks. I mean, does anyone really need 20 autographs from one tour? If I was Roger, I'd be slightly gun shy about giving autographs for fear of getting tackled..

I hope that the American fans will be able to help each other out with the tour next year. Maybe some the Europeans will make the trip over? :-) Things are a bit different here, though, given the sheer size of the country it could get pricey..

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Posted: 16 Aug 05, 10:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Roger stalked! That's news to me!

Whose stalking him?

He'd better get some burly security guards!

Kriz ;o)


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Posted: 16 Aug 05, 11:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Krizzy wrote:

Roger stalked! That's news to me!


I don't mean stalking as in peeking in his windows and such.. It's just some fans act a little too nuts during close encounters of the Queen kind..;-)

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Posted: 16 Aug 05, 11:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

(I remember these two because the "typical R.E.M. fan" is apparently 25-35 years old and doesn't drink alcohol).


The typical R.E.M fan is highly suicidal


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Posted: 16 Aug 05, 11:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

FriedChicken<br><font size=1>The Almighty</font> wrote:


The typical R.E.M fan is highly suicidal


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