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Posted: 06 Sep 05, 16:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

This is just a theory, so please dobn't kill me fo saying this ;-)

If you listen to Mother Love and try to leave all the music out and only listen to Freddie singing, do you get the idea that the song in fact consists of two different songs (probably put together after Freddie's death)?

No you will probably think say that BohRhap is one song and still sounds like that. Ok, but isn't it still possible that Freddie didn't have the strenght to finish the two written songs and Brian & co. could only had snippets of both to use while recording the music in 1994?

According to my theory the songs are:

1.
I don't want to sleep with you
I don't need the passion too
I don't want a stormy affair
To make me feel my life is heading somewhere
All I want is the comfort and care
Just to know that my woman gives me sweet -
Mother love

I don't want to make no waves
But you can give me all the love that I crave
I can't take if you see me cry
I long for peace before I die
All I want to know that you're there
You're gonna give me all your sweet -
Mother love

My body's aching, but I can't sleep
My dreams are all the company I keep
Got such a feeling as the sun goes down
I'm coming home to my sweet -
Mother love

The last part is of course recorded and sung by Brian after Freddie's death.

2.
I've walked too long in this lonely lane
I've had enough of this same old game
I'm a man of the world and they say I'm strong
But my heart is heavy and my hope is gone
Out in the city, in the cold world outside
I don't want pity, just safe place to hide
Mama please, let me back inside

I know that many (Queen) songs have verses that differ from the rest, but still I don't think this is the case with Mother Love.





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Posted: 06 Sep 05, 16:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Whisperer wrote:

This is just a theory, so please dobn't kill me fo saying this ;-)

If you listen to Mother Love and try to leave all the music out and only listen to Freddie singing, do you get the idea that the song in fact consists of two different songs (probably put together after Freddie's death)?

No you will probably think say that BohRhap is one song and still sounds like that. Ok, but isn't it still possible that Freddie didn't have the strenght to finish the two written songs and Brian & co. could only had snippets of both to use while recording the music in 1994?

According to my theory the songs are:

1.
I don't want to sleep with you
I don't need the passion too
I don't want a stormy affair
To make me feel my life is heading somewhere
All I want is the comfort and care
Just to know that my woman gives me sweet -
Mother love

I don't want to make no waves
But you can give me all the love that I crave
I can't take if you see me cry
I long for peace before I die
All I want to know that you're there
You're gonna give me all your sweet -
Mother love

My body's aching, but I can't sleep
My dreams are all the company I keep
Got such a feeling as the sun goes down
I'm coming home to my sweet -
Mother love

The last part is of course recorded and sung by Brian after Freddie's death.

2.
I've walked too long in this lonely lane
I've had enough of this same old game
I'm a man of the world and they say I'm strong
But my heart is heavy and my hope is gone
Out in the city, in the cold world outside
I don't want pity, just safe place to hide
Mama please, let me back inside

I know that many (Queen) songs have verses that differ from the rest, but still I don't think this is the case with Mother Love.



Yeah,it seems like it's two songs.
According to what I've heard it was the last song which Freddie recorded before his death but he never finished it,so Brian sung the rest of the song


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Posted: 06 Sep 05, 16:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

A bridge of a song is meant to provide sharp contrast, that's why the melody is different. Not a surprise.


John hated HS. Fred's fave singer was not PR. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' Witness testimonies are often inaccurate. Scotland's not in England. 'Bo Rhap' hasn't got 180 voices.
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Posted: 06 Sep 05, 16:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes Sebastian, I'm aware of that. That part just sounds like something more than just a bridge. The whole song seems to be mad eout of demo snippets recording at various points in time.


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Posted: 06 Sep 05, 17:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i agree.. it's very much a 'let me live' type thing


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Posted: 06 Sep 05, 17:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I remember Brian writing about the recording of that song,
and he mentioned how Freddie kept trying the bridge
over and over to make it better.
I don't think it was the most properly conceived song given the time,
but I think it was meant to be ONE song.
It seems Freddie just 'did a Freddie' and made the song
explode in the bridge.


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Posted: 06 Sep 05, 17:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

As John S Stuart has explained in the fan mix section, it is most definitely an important part of this song. It's definitely NOT from another song.

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Posted: 06 Sep 05, 19:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

well, i was hearin the song, and check, in the last part, I think that is in the middle of the mix of sounds, you can hear freddie singing, from what song comes that line??
it sounds so beautiful
d u know¨?



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Posted: 06 Sep 05, 19:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Could be his vocal games from Wembley '86,

Could be One Vision

Could be Going Back (I think you mean this one)


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Posted: 06 Sep 05, 20:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

There's something else about that song. Someone else mentioned some time ago that he could hear Brian sing the first sylabe of the bridge instead of Freddie but that it was almost seamlessly integrated with Freddie's powerful vocals of the rest of the bridge. I mean the "I walked alone in this lonely lane" part. You could say that the "I..." part sounds a little different and it could be Brian. I know it was mentioned before but I'm just bringing it up again to see if someone else hears this aswell or if I'm being predisposed by what I've been told. :S

What do you think?

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Posted: 06 Sep 05, 22:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Wiley wrote:

There's something else about that song. Someone else mentioned some time ago that he could hear Brian sing the first sylabe of the bridge instead of Freddie but that it was almost seamlessly integrated with Freddie's powerful vocals of the rest of the bridge. I mean the "I walked alone in this lonely lane" part. You could say that the "I..." part sounds a little different and it could be Brian. I know it was mentioned before but I'm just bringing it up again to see if someone else hears this aswell or if I'm being predisposed by what I've been told. :S

What do you think?


Freddie and Brian have occasionally had moments of sounding similar, and I think this is just another one of those cases. But it's close!!

There's one moment on Happiness where Roger sounds just like Freddie, but I forget where it is! Someone help me out...!


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Posted: 07 Sep 05, 01:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

On the song Happiness or the album in general?


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Posted: 07 Sep 05, 03:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

In No-One But You, when Roger sings ''...and well remember, forever'' - when he says ''forever'', I recon he sounds like Freddie there, maybe thats what you're talking about?

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Posted: 07 Sep 05, 03:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Posted: 07 Sep 05, 04:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

There is something I noticed about Mother Love. It's mentioned here before in some way.

in this verse:
I walked too long in this lonely lane
>>I've<< had enough of this same old game

Now every time I hear that "I've", I hear Rogers voice. Maybe it's overdubbed with Rogers voice to make it sound more powerful.. I don't know.

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Posted: 07 Sep 05, 04:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Mmmm.... didnt know that but now u said it very cool

the song is lovely



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Posted: 07 Sep 05, 04:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Wow it does sound like Brian. Quite odd. I have to say the bridge is the best part of the song. It makes it so epic and quite chilling.

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Posted: 07 Sep 05, 05:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I really, really, REALLY think that it is a simple as it's just Freddie's voice.

To be honest, it doesn't sound at all like Bri or Rog, especially the "IIII've had enough..." part.



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Posted: 07 Sep 05, 07:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

There's one moment on Happiness where Roger sounds just like Freddie, but I forget where it is! Someone help me out...!


For me it was Touch The Sky and this 'yeahhh' there - sounds like Freddie's

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Posted: 07 Sep 05, 09:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

In my opinion it was just one song, probably recorded one bit at a time, but you can tell that the atmosphere is from the same place. You can`t fake that in the studio, and i don`t think that the last days of Freddie were spent writing songs about his dead so they could pick the best parts.

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