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Posted: 16 Sep 05, 02:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

queen was one of my first favorite bands ever. i was 8 years old when Queen: Live Killers came out and they and the album took me over. i was forever a fan. I know every lyric and the sound of every chord and drum beat. but during the introduction to "death on two legs" :

This next song is from a night at the opera
This is about a (beep) (beep) (beep)
We call him Death on two legs
Hey hey hey hey

What the hell was beeped?

knowing this would unlock one of the greatest secrets of my life.

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Posted: 16 Sep 05, 02:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The three beeps undoubtedly refer to their ex-manager, Mr. Sheffield. The song was written about him, and the song was usually introduced as such in concert. Freddie would says things such as: this is dedicated to a: "mean motherfucker", "rotten old bastard" and other such descriptions. I am sure someone knows which show this came from exactly, and can then provide you with the three missing "beeps", but rest assured it is nothing flattering to Mr. Sheffield. Hope that helps! Cheers!


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Posted: 16 Sep 05, 02:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

wow. thats really interesting. what was so unsavory about mr. sheffield? and it would be kick ass if someone who was there responded to this. that show would have been in '78!

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Posted: 16 Sep 05, 02:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

here's what was said at a 'live killers' gig:-

frankfurt:

we're gonna take you to an album called a night at the opera. This next song, is written about a really dirty old man, i mean a nasty creepy motherfucker, we call him that....




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Posted: 16 Sep 05, 02:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

sorry brinski, but i am listening to the song right now (since i have been talking about it) and that is not what he says. he says, "this next song is from a night at the opera. this is about a ... ... ... we call him death on two legs. theres nothing about rotten.

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Posted: 16 Sep 05, 02:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

sorry i meant dirty not rotten...

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Posted: 16 Sep 05, 02:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i was trying to give you an idea of the subject matter of what he was saying on that tour....

in case you didn't know....the live killers labum was editted and pieced together from 50 gigs across europe - and the three beeps don't mean it was necessarily a short bit edited....it could have been much longer...you would bleep out all ten seconds to make it fit....artistic licence would say a couple/or so beeps to make the point.

i believe parts of Frankfurt were used to make LK....so i gave you Freddie's 'monologue' from that gig, as an example

i can get you others if you like - it shows the variation on the same theme...........hope it helps


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Posted: 16 Sep 05, 03:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

my best guess is that the beeped sequence came from one of these. but i'm happy to be corrected. bear in mind that these were used for either DOTL or If You Can't Beat 'Em (the song before it n the setlist) - also Paris was a great gig - so some audience interaction may have been used - i think Paris was also probably used for Dreamer's Ball..hope this info helps you..if i had zurich and bremen i could make a 'bootleg' live killers

paris:
'feels like a good night tonight, i can tell, merci. we're now gonna do a song from a night at the opera, this song. this was written about a couple of managers....yeah you know the fuckers. There's more than just one of those guys. It's written about two managers and dedicated to all those kinda people...................'

barcelona:
'salut barcelona, take that! this next song is froma a night at the opera, it's about a dirty nasty man. We call him motherfucker. i'll show you another word for him - we call him, we call him death on two legs'

cologne:
'this next song comes from a night at the opera, it was conceived and written during the time when we were having a lot of trouble with our managers. Do you understand what i mean? - okay okay! this is a, he was a real mother fucker of a gentleman you know. i don't know what you would call him over here sweinhund, or soemthing - you know. but we also call him death on two legs...'

frankfurt:
'we're gonna take you to an album called a night at the opera. This next song, is written about a really dirty old man, i mean a nasty creepy motherfucker, we call him that....'




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Posted: 16 Sep 05, 04:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

here's the info John Stuart posted some time ago on LK venues:

We Will Rock You
Let Me Entertain You
Death On Two Legs - Barcelona, 20 February 1979 & GB: Sporthalle, Cologne 1 February 1979

Killer Queen - Frankfurt, 2 February 1979
Bicycle Race - Frankfurt, 2 February 1979
I’m In Love With My Car - Zurich, 4 February 1979
Get Down Make Love - Frankfurt, 2 February 1979
You’re My Best Friend
Now I'm Here - GB: Festhalle, Frankfurt, 2 February 1979
Dreamer’s Ball
Love Of My Life - Frankfurt, 2 February 1979
'39 - GB: Festhalle, Frankfurt, 2 February 1979
Keep Yourself Alive
Don’t Stop Me Now - GB: Stadthalle, Bremen, 20 January 1979
Spread Your Wings - GB: Stadthalle, Bremen, 20 January 1979
Brighton Rock - GB: Stadthalle, Bremen, 20 January 1979
Bohemian Rhapsody - Frankfurt, 2 February 1979
Tie Your Mother Down - Frankfurt, 2 February 1979
Sheer Heart Attack
We Will Rock You - Frankfurt, 2 February 1979
We Are The Champions
God Save The Queen




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Posted: 16 Sep 05, 10:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I believe this is it, i heard that Freddie called him "a real motherfucker of a gentleman" at the performance in question. I might be wrong, but he says that at one of the perfomances of DOTL.


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Posted: 16 Sep 05, 11:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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barcelona:
'salut barcelona, take that! this next song is froma a night at the opera, it's about a dirty nasty man. We call him motherfucker. i'll show you another word for him - we call him, we call him death on two legs'


Yes, this is what he have said.

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Posted: 16 Sep 05, 12:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Wow everyone! Thanks for the responses! I think i am going to go listen to it on vinyl right now! If anyone has anymore info about the shows i would really love to know...

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Posted: 16 Sep 05, 12:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Death on two legs introduction is from Barcelona. I have this show I can be sure of it.

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Posted: 16 Sep 05, 22:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"This next song is from a Night at The Opera...It is about a real motherfucker of a man...This is called, Death On Two Legs..."




Well here's my counter-offer... do I have to kill you? What if I were just to kick the ever loving shit out of you?
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Posted: 16 Sep 05, 23:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You people could have saved yourselves a LOT of trouble if you had just gone to queenconcerts.com.

Mr Scully had this to say in his Official Live Releases>Live Killers section

"A lot of people are also asking: "why is there a beep before Death On Two Legs?" The beep is intentional because Freddie introduced the song: "This next song is from 'A Night At The Opera'. This is about a dirty nasty man, we call him motherfucker, do you know what motherfucker means? I'm sure you have a word for it! We call him, we also call him 'Death on Two Legs' Heh heh heh hey!" "


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Posted: 17 Sep 05, 02:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The correct answer was repeating few times after Brenski's post, what's the point to repeat it again?

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Posted: 17 Sep 05, 19:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Serry... wrote:

The correct answer was repeating few times after Brenski's post, what's the point to repeat it again?


I...Don't...Know :P

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Posted: 17 Sep 05, 22:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

thanks to everyone that has posted. as long as i know Freddie was saying motherfucker if feel good. i figured as much but know know for sure rules! thanks...

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Posted: 19 Sep 05, 09:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Intheyearof39, to answer your other question as to why Queen were not happy with the Sheffield Brothers...they basically ripped them off from day one. In the early 70's Queen signed a contract with them that was more in the Sheffields best interests than the band members. As Queen were generating more and more money, they really weren't seeing much of it. John Deacon couldn't even get an advance to put a down payment down on a house. I believe it was Elton John's manager, John Reid (after being turned down by Led Zeppelin's manager Peter Grant) who was brought in to get them out of the contract. It cost them a fortune at the time-had they not continued to more and more successful, they would never recouped the money. In the video anthology series "Magic Years", Norman Sheffield admits he made a mistake letting then get away. If only he had treated them fairly in the begininng...


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Posted: 19 Sep 05, 10:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

IS there a non-beeped version available?


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