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Posted: 25 Sep 05, 15:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

From MarthaMoxley. com (editting done for space)

Sometime between 9:30 and 11 p.m. on October 30, 1975, Martha Moxley left the Skakel house. Home was only 150 yards away, but Martha never made it. Martha's body was found the next day under a tree in her back yard. She had been beaten so hard with a 6-iron that the shaft had shattered. A jagged piece of it was used to stab her through the neck. Police later learned that the club was part an expensive, Toney Penna, set which had belonged to Tommy and Michael Skakel's mother Anne. Mrs. Skakel had died of cancer two years earlier leaving her husband Rushton to raise their large and reportedly unruly family. Their son, Tommy, then 17, was said to be the last person seen with Martha. According to Martha's diary, she had fended off several past attempts by Skakel to "get to first and second base," said Martha's mother, Dorthy Moxley. The day Martha's battered body was found, Greenwich police did a cursory search of the house with Rushton Skakel's permission, but they never obtained a warrant to do a thorough search. This lack of a warrant in the investigation led to accusations of "special treatment" for the well-connected, influential family.

The Skakels stopped cooperating with police in early 1976 and have since refused to be interviewed.

For years nothing was mentioned about the case publicly. Residents of Greenwich didn't speak of the terrible crime which had gone unsolved. Meanwhile, in 1983, the Greenwich Time/Stamford Advocate hired a freelance writer named Len Levitt to write an article on the case. The article appeared to be "so controversial" at the time that the publishers shelved it until 1991 when a rumor started floating around Greenwich that William Kennedy Smith -- then facing a rape charge on which he was acquitted in Palm Beach, Florida -- knew something about the murder. This rumor proved to be untrue, but sparked curiosity into Martha's unsolved murder. The article stirred new public interest.

The case regained national attention in 1993 when "A Season in Purgatory," Dominick Dunne's best-selling novel based on the murder, was published. Dunne, who later wrote extensively about the O.J. Simpson trial, encouraged Mark Fuhrman to investigate the case.

Throughout the years Greenwich Police and the State Prosecutor never stopped searching for clues. But leads were few and far between, and the investigation appeared to be going nowhere.

Several years later, former Los Angeles police detective Mark Fuhrman started to write a book about the case. Fuhrman had gained notoriety when his controversial testimony allegedly tainted the prosecutions' case against O.J. Simpson. Throughout his investigation of Martha's murder Fuhrman promised that "Murder in Greenwich" would name the killer.

But Greenwich authorities did not welcome this "outsider". "I have no reason to talk to Mark Fuhrman," snapped one investigator who refused Fuhrman's request for an interview. Authorities told Fuhrman they wouldn't cooperate because they did not want to jeopardize their ongoing investigation. "What they are actually doing." Fuhrman said, "is hiding old mistakes." "If you know there was a mistake and you leave it that way because you won't allow yourself to say or admit that you made a mistake, then that's a catastrophic mistake," he said.

Retired police Detective Stephen Carroll, one of the few cooperating with Fuhrman, agreed that investigators made mistakes but insisted the Skakels did not get special treatment. "Mistakes happened," Carroll said. "Because of inexperience." The department had not handled a murder in 30 years.

"I think it was bungled from the first moment," Author Dominick Dunne said. "It was a small community then. And this was an amazingly rich family."

Fuhrman's interest in the case gave Moxley's family n


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Posted: 25 Sep 05, 22:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Even if he solved a murder, so fuckin' what? Doesn't change the fact that he's racist.

Would anyone think any better of O.J. Simpson if anyone mentioned that he once in a while gave money to charity?


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Posted: 26 Sep 05, 13:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Even if he solved a murder, so fuckin' what? Doesn't change the fact that he's racist.


He's NOT a racist. The only people he hates are criminals!


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Posted: 26 Sep 05, 13:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ouch. That's way too much hate.

Well..not really.

Bye now.


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Posted: 26 Sep 05, 21:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:

FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:

Mr.Jingles wrote:

Even if he solved a murder, so fuckin' what? Doesn't change the fact that he's racist.


He's NOT a racist. The only people he hates are criminals!


...especially if they're black. Besides, all those white people who commit crimes aren't criminals, it's all the darkies' fault.

That's what you wanted to hear, right? I suppose you are a biggot yourself as well?

Next time some terrorists want to blow something up, I hope it's his home, preferably when you are visiting.


There's no "especially if they're black" involved. There's just criminals. It doesn't matter if they're white, black, Hispanic, Asian, whatever. I know some fine African-Americans and I know some that are pretty much members of Future Felons of America. It's the latter that Fuhrman has a problem with, along with white, Hispanic, Asians, Middle-Eastern, Filipino, whatever members of Future Felons of America. Criminals are criminals once you strip away the outer coating of race.

Edit: And by the way, the idea that I'm a bigot is so laughable that I originally wasn't even about to reply to it. I go to a school that is 1/3 African-American, and I have African-Americans in every one of my classes, many African-American friends, acquantiences, I am on a tennis team that is predominantly African-American and my doubles player is an African-American. I hold it against her far more that she is a freshman ^_^


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Posted: 27 Sep 05, 13:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:

Then why are you acting like a dumb racist, you fucking bitch?


Just because she's praising an arguably racist person for solving a murder doesn't make her racist too. Did you read her last post?

That's the problem with many liberals: A conservative makes a comment the liberal doesn't like, and they shout an insult back, or at best, simply point out what they don't like, as opposed to starting a constructive conversation. But if that does happen, the average conservative way of communicating with the other side is to choose a polar opposite argument as a means to deflect attention from the subject at hand. This is why there is little dialogue between the two sides in this western world. Self-importance, and personal agendas.



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Posted: 27 Sep 05, 14:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:

Then why are you acting like a dumb racist, you fucking bitch?


If I were acting like a racist, I would have said something negative about African-Americans. Show me where I have done this. BONK. Time's up. I haven't.


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Posted: 27 Sep 05, 17:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:

Then why are you acting like a dumb racist, you fucking bitch?


Just because she's praising an arguably racist person for solving a murder doesn't make her racist too. Did you read her last post?

That's the problem with many liberals: A conservative makes a comment the liberal doesn't like, and they shout an insult back, or at best, simply point out what they don't like, as opposed to starting a constructive conversation. But if that does happen, the average conservative way of communicating with the other side is to choose a polar opposite argument as a means to deflect attention from the subject at hand. This is why there is little dialogue between the two sides in this western world. Self-importance, and personal agendas.


I agree with Bob a lot on this comment. I might be a liberal, but I try not to respond back with personal insults, otherwise it'd make me look like a complete fool.
The one thing that both left and right wing extremists have in common is that both are willing to call out for the harm, death, or destruction of one another.

The truth of the matter is that Sarajane has for the past weeks trying to convince us that Mark Fuhrman is not a racist, and there's absolutely no way to prove the opossite. I mean, the guy commited perjury motivated by his very own racist views, and more than anything he makes personal racial remarks on recorded tapes. No wonder why he's good buddies with Sean Hannity, who happens to be a good friend of another racist bastard, Rush Limbaugh.

Seems to be like racist people are more than willing to do anything to give each other support. I call that UNITY!


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Posted: 27 Sep 05, 20:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Mr.Jingles wrote:

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:

Then why are you acting like a dumb racist, you fucking bitch?


Just because she's praising an arguably racist person for solving a murder doesn't make her racist too. Did you read her last post?

That's the problem with many liberals: A conservative makes a comment the liberal doesn't like, and they shout an insult back, or at best, simply point out what they don't like, as opposed to starting a constructive conversation. But if that does happen, the average conservative way of communicating with the other side is to choose a polar opposite argument as a means to deflect attention from the subject at hand. This is why there is little dialogue between the two sides in this western world. Self-importance, and personal agendas.


I agree with Bob a lot on this comment. I might be a liberal, but I try not to respond back with personal insults, otherwise it'd make me look like a complete fool.
The one thing that both left and right wing extremists have in common is that both are willing to call out for the harm, death, or destruction of one another.

The truth of the matter is that Sarajane has for the past weeks trying to convince us that Mark Fuhrman is not a racist, and there's absolutely no way to prove the opossite. I mean, the guy commited perjury motivated by his very own racist views, and more than anything he makes personal racial remarks on recorded tapes. No wonder why he's good buddies with Sean Hannity, who happens to be a good friend of another racist bastard, Rush Limbaugh.

Seems to be like racist people are more than willing to do anything to give each other support. I call that UNITY!


If he WERE a racist, and /I/ were a racist, I would say, "Yeah, he's a racist, so what?"

Also, since when is Limbaugh a racist? A fat, ugly, narcisstic drug addict, yeah (don't like Limbaugh AT ALL) but where's the evidence that he's a racist? Also, connecting Fuhrman to Limbaugh via Hannity is so six degrees of Kevin Bacon.


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Posted: 27 Sep 05, 23:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Also, since when is Limbaugh a racist? A fat, ugly, narcisstic drug addict, yeah (don't like Limbaugh AT ALL) but where's the evidence that he's a racist?


Since always, but once he made this remark about a black quarterback when he was hired as an ESPN sports commentator, it was more than obvious that he was racist...

Rush Limbaugh said:


"Sorry to say this, I don't think he's been that good from the get-go. I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. There is a little hope invested in McNabb, and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve. The defense carried this team."



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Posted: 27 Sep 05, 23:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hey, who was the commentator who once said a black wide receiver ran so well because he grew up running through the jungle?

I think he lost his job within seconds, and hasn't been on tv since.



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Posted: 27 Sep 05, 23:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

Hey, who was the commentator who once said a black wide receiver ran so well because he grew up running through the jungle?


I dunno, but I remember one sports commentator saying:

"I've never seen a Jew run so fast since Poland 1939"

Oh wait, that was from South Park. Even when one of the creators is Jewish, is still far beyond me how did they get away with that one.


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Since always, but once he made this remark about a black quarterback when he was hired as an ESPN sports commentator, it was more than obvious that he was racist...


That remark was more stupid than racist. Limbaugh likes to hear himself talk, that's nothing new. And he's been quite proven wrong, as McNabb is a GREAT quarterback (for MY home team, the Eagles! Go Eagles! YEEEEAAAAH!).




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Posted: 28 Sep 05, 07:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Mr.Jingles wrote:

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

Hey, who was the commentator who once said a black wide receiver ran so well because he grew up running through the jungle?


I dunno, but I remember one sports commentator saying:

"I've never seen a Jew run so fast since Poland 1939"

Oh wait, that was from South Park. Even when one of the creators is Jewish, is still far beyond me how did they get away with that one.


Because the people who watch South Park aren't people who get offended easily?


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<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:

FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:



Since always, but once he made this remark about a black quarterback when he was hired as an ESPN sports commentator, it was more than obvious that he was racist...


That remark was more stupid than racist. Limbaugh likes to hear himself talk, that's nothing new. And he's been quite proven wrong, as McNabb is a GREAT quarterback (for MY home team, the Eagles! Go Eagles! YEEEEAAAAH!).



That's no argument. Then again, you wouldn't recognize an argument if it slapped you in the face.


Limbaugh made a stupid comment. What else is new? He makes a lot of them. The only way he'd hate a black person is if that person stood between him and his OxyContin supply.


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Posted: 29 Sep 05, 12:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Also, in reference to the "you're a racist", I took a bias quiz in Bioethics and I am not racist against African-Americans OR Arab-Americans ^_^


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Posted: 29 Sep 05, 13:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Also, in reference to the "you're a racist", I took a bias quiz in Bioethics and I am not racist against African-Americans OR Arab-Americans ^_^


Good girl! You want a cookie?


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Posted: 29 Sep 05, 13:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:

FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:

Also, in reference to the &quot;you're a racist&quot;, I took a bias quiz in Bioethics and I am not racist against African-Americans OR Arab-Americans ^_^


No, you're just biased against every sensible human in the world...regarless of their ethnic origin, &quot;just as long as them ain't no stinkin' liberals, mind you, Bubba!&quot;


Remember Mandy? The LIBERAL that left QZ because she was tired of dealing with all the rudeness? Hmm.


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Posted: 29 Sep 05, 17:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Is that a hint at your imminent leaving (there IS a God!!!)?


Never. If I'm not pissing someone off, I'm not doing my job.


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