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Posted: 27 Sep 05, 08:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

im not a piano player but this is for the pianists out there. Why does Freddie do the famous crossing over of hands. is this on improvision by him because ive never seen another pianisnt do it before. when other people do the sng also they dont do the cross over. i guess it must be like guitar where chords can be played elsewhere? anyway y does he do that.


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Posted: 27 Sep 05, 09:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The crossing hands gimmick is simple but effective, considering the notes involved. He's not the first, last or only pianist to do that when needed.


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Posted: 27 Sep 05, 12:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

it's interesting to see him do that, but it is easier to play the song, believe me. I'm tinkering around with it right now, and I'm doing good with the crossover thing.


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Posted: 27 Sep 05, 12:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It absolutely is possible to play that section without crossing hands and have it sound 100% identical to how Fred does it. But it's not as practical and economical a method of playing the notes.

Played without crossing hands, the right hand would have to leave its position in the centre of the keyboard and jump up an octave to play the high octaves, and after playing the bass-notes of the chord, the left hand would have to shift up an octave to cover the notes that the right hand would normally play.

Using the crossed-hands method, only the left-hand has to leave its original position (to play the high doubled notes), and so the right can remain in the centre of the keyboard throughout.

I'm pretty sure that in the demo version of Bo Rhap, Fred doesn't play the high doubled notes (and therefore doesn't do the crossover), so it seems that that idea was an afterthought that evolved naturally when playing the piece.


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Posted: 27 Sep 05, 15:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yeah, it's definitely the easier method.


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Posted: 27 Sep 05, 17:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I chose not to cross my hands when playing bohemian rhapsody.
Some players do find it easier as a note does need to be played between the left and right handed parts.
Personally i find it easier to play that note with my right thumb instead of crossing hands.
Whatever works for everyone else is fine, aslong as it sounds good.
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Posted: 27 Sep 05, 21:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Basically, it comes down to preference.

Personally, in the case of Bo-Rhap where the piano line is SO important in making the piece sound RIGHT (versus these crap sheet-music versions you find out there), I think it's important and necessary to play it LIKE Freddie, if you want to do the piece any sort of true justice to what Freddie did. Yes, you can probably get away with playing the cross over octaves with the right hand...but in my own view - what's the point in doing that?

In songs like 'Don't Stop Me Now' - you can basically get a way with your own methods a bit more, cos the piano part is more filler and rhythm (i.e. as one would play rhythm guitar) than an instrumental line that has some sort of melody.

...if that makes any sense.

But yeah...other composers have certainly done the same hand-crossing thing. A perfect example of this is in first movement Beethoven's 'Pathetique' Sonata...pianists in this thread will know exactly the part I'm talking about.

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Posted: 27 Sep 05, 22:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I remeber at the Tribute Concert Elton John played the song (technical term coming up, look out) without the "tink, tink". What crap.

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Posted: 28 Sep 05, 08:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote


Cross over much easier.


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Posted: 20 Oct 05, 07:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Posted: 20 Oct 05, 11:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well as I do play Bohemian Rhapsody best on this site, yes it is very effective and simple.


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