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Posted: 27 Sep 05, 12:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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I was rather upset that Queen didn't sing and include songs in the "Return of the Champions" CD from the "Made In Heaven" Album... They could have at least did "Too much love will kill you" or "Heaven for everyone"... Why was not even a single from that ablum sung in the concert???


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Posted: 27 Sep 05, 13:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Simple and polite answer: we don't know.

(By the way - how about It's A Beautiful Day intro?)

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Posted: 27 Sep 05, 13:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It could be because MIH was Freddie's last.


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Posted: 27 Sep 05, 13:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yeah, there's already 3 songs (Love of My Life, TATDOOL and Bo Rhap) that are more or less tributes to Fred. I'm glad there's nothing from MIH. This new line-up really rocks, so it's great to hear all those old rockers brought to a new millenium.

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Posted: 28 Sep 05, 06:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I felt that instead of "Kind of Magic" they could have played either "Breakthru" or "Heaven for Everyone", two other up tempo songs by Roger. Not that "Magic" is a bad song, but I've heard it many times before and was looking forward to hearing something new.

The other song they might have considered from "Made In Heaven" is "Too Much Love Will Kill You", but I don't see how they would have fitted that in the setlist, unless they dropped another quiet song such as "Say It's Not True" or "Love of My Life", which of course they wanted to play for other reasons.


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Posted: 28 Sep 05, 06:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think that the only problem with the setlist, other than the lack of older rockers that would suite Paul's voice, is the fact that I Want To Break Free comes after Tie Your Mother Down. Error. Fat Bottomed Girls should follow here, to keep the pace going. It brings everything to an un-necessary hault so suddenly.

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Posted: 28 Sep 05, 07:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

GreatKingSam wrote:

I think that the only problem with the setlist, other than the lack of older rockers that would suite Paul's voice, is the fact that I Want To Break Free comes after Tie Your Mother Down. Error. Fat Bottomed Girls should follow here, to keep the pace going. It brings everything to an un-necessary hault so suddenly.


I agree with that. I think their reasoning was that, after Tie Your Mother Down, they wanted to play a big hit, a sing-along to get the crowd involved in the concert right away. However, I think it would have worked better if they play TYMD then FBG and then IWTBF, then follow with Wishing Well, AOBTD and CLTCL, etc.

But this is nitpicking of course, on the whole the setlist works very well. I'm curious to see if they will change anything to the setlist for the upcoming concerts in the US and Japan. Different songs had success over there - I don't believe IWTBF or AKOM were ever big hits in the US right? - but I doubt they will change a lot save for perhaps a song or two.


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Posted: 28 Sep 05, 07:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Let Me Live would have worked well... the 3 parts... instead of Fred, Rog, Bri... Paul, Rog, Bri. would have at least been interesting.


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Posted: 28 Sep 05, 10:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Adam Unger (QueenVault.com) wrote:

Let Me Live would have worked well... the 3 parts... instead of Fred, Rog, Bri... Paul, Rog, Bri. would have at least been interesting.


Absolutely. Probably the only possibility here. I can hardly picture Paul singing Mother Love. Anyway, with hindsight I find the setlist well balanced. I'm just frustrated they "censored" Under Pressure, which is a n°1 hit (unlike so manu other songs we fans were desperate to hear)and a bloody good song. They only had to rehearse it a little bit more and it'd have been on the cd/dvd !

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Posted: 05 Oct 05, 11:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

MIH songs aren't quite live material I don't think.

But I'm sad that Miracle + Innuendo songs didn't feature more. I'm thinking songs like Headlong and Breakthru are easily adaptable for a live environment.
And the end of The Miracle? I'd KILL to be in a crowd full of people singing that last bit, it's perfect.
Plus I'd have loved to have heard Roger sing Ride the Wild Wind.

I mean, if Made in Heaven had faster and harder songs on it then I'd be questioning it. As it stands, the only post-Innuendo song I can see being appropriate at a Q+PR gig would be "No One But You", and then only towards the end of the show.

I definitely think I Want to Break Free + It's a Kind of Magic should have been dropped. I think Magic worked brilliantly in the '86 tour, but like One Vision it should stay there. I Want to Break Free doesn't work for this setup.




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Posted: 05 Oct 05, 12:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Unfortunately, 'Magic' and 'Break Free' are two of Queen's biggest hit singles, and worked well enough in '84 and '86 to warrant inclusion on this recent tour. The only reason things like 'Innuendo' and 'Heaven For Everyone', both of which charted better, was because they were either too difficult to perform (the former) or would screw up the pacing of the show (the latter; it's too stop-start to get anybody in the audience going). Don't get me wrong, I would've loved if 'Innuendo' kicked things off - I can just imagine the lights getting low, the drum roll starting off things, and... well, now I'm getting my hopes up - and if 'Heaven For Everyone' was included, but when they chose songs for the tour, they were thinking about the best-known stuff, and, unfortunately, 'Magic' and 'Break Free' trump 'Innuendo' and 'Heaven For Everyone'.

I still would've liked to hear 'Too Much Love' - they did that at the 46664 concert, and, from what I heard, did it very well.

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Posted: 05 Oct 05, 12:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i think that too that they don't perform made in heaven songs because it was their last and maby they don't want to remember these days when the songs were recorded... but anyway it's deffenetly ok when they are not performing mother love(freddie is only one who has permittion to sing this song live) and a winters tale is hes last one but that song is so beatiful and i think that would've been so great. let me live would be great, too much love will kill you is brians song so that could be on setlist and heaven for everyone is roger taylor song. some of those songs should be on setlist.

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Posted: 06 Oct 05, 09:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I totally understand why they've got to choose songs that are more successful as opposed to better ones on later albums.
It's just a shame is all.


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Posted: 07 Oct 05, 02:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Nice topic and overall good responses by everyone. IMHO

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Unfortunately, 'Magic' and 'Break Free' are two of Queen's biggest hit singles, and worked well enough in '84 and '86 to warrant inclusion on this recent tour ...
... but when they chose songs for the tour, they were thinking about the best-known stuff ...


Magic and Break Free were not big hits in the USA, so I think these two songs could be easily dropped from the USA setlist.


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Posted: 07 Oct 05, 11:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hehe, going on the rationale of how successful certain songs were in different countries, they'd have to play I'm Going Slightly Mad (Hong Kong) and Body Language (USA) - two songs that I don't think would *ever* work without Freddie singing 'em.


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