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Posted: 27 Sep 05, 19:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Press release from today:

COLUMBIA RECORDS TO RELEASE HISTORIC 'BORN TO RUN 30TH ANNIVERSARY EDITION' ON NOVEMBER 15

BOX SET WILL INCLUDE THREE SEPARATE DISCS INCLUDING A STUNNING DVD OF THE LEGENDARY 1975 HAMMERSMITH ODEON CONCERT; A DVD OF "WINGS FOR WHEELS: THE MAKING OF BORN TO RUN," WITH NEVER BEFORE SEEN ARCHIVAL FOOTAGE AND NEW INTERVIEWS WITH ALL THE BAND MEMBERS AND MANY OTHERS; AND A CD OF THE BRILLIANTLY REMASTERED 'BORN TO RUN'

Columbia Records will release the 'Born To Run 30th Anniversary Edition' box set on November 15. Personally supervised by Bruce Springsteen and Jon Landau, the box set includes "Hammersmith Odeon, London '75," an astonishing film of Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band's legendary 1975 concert at the Hammersmith Odeon in London; the new film "Wings For Wheels: The Making of Born To Run;" the classic album in remastered CD form; and finally, a 48 page booklet of previously unpublished photographs. With its two DVDs, the package offers approximately four hours of previously unseen footage.

"I believe that the combination of the great 1975 concert footage, the brilliant documentary of the making of the album and the dazzling remastering of 'Born to Run' add up to a nearly perfect storm of Bruce's music," said longtime manager Jon Landau.

Spanning roughly two hours and ten minutes, the November 18, 1975 concert at London's Hammersmith Odeon finds an epic performance of sixteen Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band classics, including "Thunder Road," "Tenth Avenue Freeze Out," "Jungleland," and "Born To Run," as well as such other favorites such as "Kitty's Back" and "Rosalita." The multiple-camera film of the complete concert will be available in its entirety and its original sequence, as newly edited by Emmy Award Winner Thom Zimny. "Hammersmith Odeon, London '75" is the only full-length concert film ever released of Bruce and the E Street Band's first 25 years.

Zimny's production team painstakingly cleaned the original negatives and digitally restored the footage, ultimately presenting this indispensable concert in vibrant color and detail. Producer Bob Clearmountain remastered and remixed the DVD in both stereo and 5.1 surround sound.

The ninety-minute documentary "Wings For Wheels: The Making of Born To Run" chronicles the definitive story of the creation of 'Born To Run,' from songwriting to production and beyond. "Wings For Wheels" boasts archival film never shown publicly, including substantial footage of Springsteen and the E Street Band recording the album, 1975 concert film and other footage shot between 1973 and 1975. The film also features exclusive footage of Springsteen playing solo piano and guitar versions of songs from 'Born To Run.'

The ninety-minute documentary "Wings For Wheels: The Making of Born To Run" chronicles the definitive story of the creation of 'Born To Run,' from songwriting to production and beyond. "Wings For Wheels" boasts archival film never shown publicly, including substantial footage of Springsteen and the E Street Band recording the album, 1975 concert performances and other footage shot between 1973 and 1975. The film also features exclusive footage of Springsteen playing solo piano and guitar versions of songs from 'Born To Run.'

Finally, the box set will feature a CD of the newly remastered 'Born To Run,' as well as a remarkable 48-page photo album of previously unpublished photographs with an introduction written by Springsteen. This is the first time Springsteen has allowed any of his catalogue to be fully remastered and he enlisted his longtime mastering guru Bob Ludwig to handle the job. The newly remastered version presents the masterpiece with striking clarity and presence. Widely regarded as one of the cornerstone albums in rock and roll history, 'Born To Run' has


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Posted: 27 Sep 05, 20:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Which would you rather have? Sadly, there's no archival 'Badlands' footage of tumbleweeds blowing through town to match the awesome archival 'Seaside' footage of ANATO. Absolutely colossal fucking up by Queen Productions.



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As a HUGE Bruce fan, this is perfect.

As an ever HUGER Queen fan, the lack of ANY EFFORT WHATSOEVER by QP is nothing short of maddening....


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Posted: 27 Sep 05, 23:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hell, I'm not even a big fan of Bruce, and I'd rather buy his album than ANATO!

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Posted: 27 Sep 05, 23:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Noooooooooooooooooooo comment.

Except maybe, damn, I wish I was a bigger Springsteen fan.



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Posted: 28 Sep 05, 03:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

Noooooooooooooooooooo comment.

Except maybe, damn, I wish I was a bigger Springsteen fan.


I'm with you...


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Posted: 28 Sep 05, 08:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm still going to wait till something official is said about the upcoming ANATO release.

I just can't trust Play.com when they still show this playlist for the GVH2 release from 2 years ago - http://www.play.com/play247.asp?page=title&r=R2M&title=139393&p=25&g=25&pa=sr

And that's the primary source for where people seem to think they now know what the upcoming release of ANATO 30th actually is. I have patience in these matters, so I'll continue to wait for official word. Heck, even Brian hasn't announced anything in his soapbox.

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Posted: 28 Sep 05, 09:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Adam, sadly it's true.

PG (and others) confirmed it in the report of this year's convention.

At least I can believe Jeff now when he said he had nothing to do with the tracklisting on Play...


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Posted: 28 Sep 05, 09:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's amazing how the Springsteen boards are totally fired up about an OFFICIAL press release. Born to Run is THE Springsteen album, it was his ANATO. His record company and his management team are aware of this, and are giving the album the respect it deserves. Whether the play.com listing is correct or not, Adam, I don't see QP seeing the anniversary of ANATO as anything but an opportunity to release product to an already overflowed Queen marketplace. They could be creating a buzz over this album, but seem content to just release it. It's funny, Brian seems to have heard about the taped intro controversy on Fat Bottomed Girls from the internet. He certainly appears to know about the NY Times slagging the band by trolling for quotes from this site. Surely he'd know that there is general dismay amongst Queen fans over the fact that their crowning moment is apparently being thrown together as an afterthought. This album deserves, no, demands, nothing less than the Springsteen set. I can't see it happening to be honest.


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Posted: 28 Sep 05, 09:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=625898




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Posted: 28 Sep 05, 10:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:

EMI only ever cared about money.


Sad but true. They also know that Queen fans will keep buying the same repackaged product over and over and over and over again.

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Posted: 28 Sep 05, 11:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"EMI only ever cared about money"

Queen aren't signed to EMI, they only license material to them. EMI have no control over what is released (although they can obviously choose not to issue potential releases such as the Q&PR single in the UK) or any input... they release what "Queen Productions" deliver.

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Posted: 28 Sep 05, 15:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You all have to understand that things are released strategically. Yes this is to make money. I think people who say that they don't care about money are the crazy ones. You all understand that one there is no reason to release whatever if you are going to have to release it again in the near future a few years later. So in the meantime everyone just waits. Plus they need to build Queen's popularity up again to sell of the stuff to be released by touring and doing new material. If you want to know what I am talking about check out what is going on with Blu-ray d.v.d.s and H.d.-d.v.d.s. This is the future in the next few years and you can complain about that all you want but it is retarded to release something when you know it will be out of date in just a few years. It costs money to release things and if they don't make money from them they won't possibly be able to release all of the stuff we and they want to. This is why I am so concerned about the sales of the latest "Return Of The Champions" doing so badly in particular here in North America where it failed to sell.

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Posted: 28 Sep 05, 15:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:

I'm gonna get this box-set for sure! However, we ARE talking about the difference between Columbia Records and EMI here. Columbia is more in for taking chances. EMI only ever cared about money.


Columbia didn't want to chance Pink Floyd's Is There Anybody Out There initially but settled for the final album in the band's deal with Columbia in the US and Canada after rejecting it as it was the band's first album back on EMI outside the US and Canada. Pink Floyd left Columbia in 1999 after the label rejected Is There Anybody Out There so the band's former manager, the late Steve O' Rourke, cancelled the band's contract with Columbia and the band switched their licensing deal to EMI for the world outside Europe and Capitol in the US. Columbia lost millions after Pink Floyd fled the coup. Captiol/EMI outside Europe re-released WYWH, Animals, The Wall and A Collection of Great Dance Songs in the Spring of 2000. Then, they acquired the licensing rights to The Final Cut in 2004 which was re-issued with a bonus track. Now, PF are in process of switching distribution rights of AMLoR, Delicate Sound, TDB and Pulse to EMI/Capitol. Pulse will be reissued when the DVD gets released and will have bonus tracks which first appeared on either the cassette or VHS versions or not released at all. Columbia whined about The Wall Live Is There Anybody Out There and paid dearly. Some of EMI's artists give in to the label but PF always had the final say on what got released and what didn't unlike other artists.


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Posted: 28 Sep 05, 16:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

AlexRocks wrote:

there is no reason to release whatever if you are going to have to release it again in the near future a few years later.

it is retarded to release something when you know it will be out of date in just a few years.


(I only wanted to comment on this one thing, so don't be surprised that there's a lot of your post missing...)

There most certainly is a reason to releases the same albums every few years, and it's precisely to make money.

CDs have been on the market for little over twenty years now, and they're the dominant audio media. Before that everything was released on cassettes and lps.

For the past ten years record labels have been getting most of their profits from re-issues. You can look at any statistics you want, and you will see that most "classic" (more than ten years old) are bought by people who already have the same on some other format.
Now that everyone has just about got their collection updated into cd format, the record sales are dropping every year.

So, the record companies in their infinite wisdom are finding new ways to cash in on the same albums. I'm probably forgetting some formats, but here's some "improvements" I can remember from the top of my head:

bonus tracks
remasters
"gold" cds
digipacks
larger booklets
bonus cds
bonus dvds
re-remasters
anniversary editions
deluxe editions
dvd audio versions
superaudio versions
surround sound versions
cds with bonus surround audio discs

It's pretty easy to pick up the pattern:

The record companies are trying to balance their dwindling record sales by releasing more and more versions of the same old albums.

And why shouldn't they, as long as there are people who will buy them?

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Posted: 28 Sep 05, 16:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

AlexRocks, the members of Queen always complained that they never received any critical respect during their career. Here is a chance to do a thorough examination of their greatest work, a work which produced the song of the century, was the most expensive to produce album ever at the time of its release, and contained production genius from track 1 until the final note. Bruce Springsteen and Pink Floyd are treating their respective classic albums with the weight they deserve. I fear that we'll see Brian talking about the harp and guitar he used in addition to the archival footage, and the band will have lost a great opportunity to shine a light on their greaterst achievement. Fuck money, they have enough, do the right thing.


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