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Posted: 17 Oct 05, 09:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The Gospel According To Barry Mitchell.

Quite recently, Barry kindly performed an inpromptu Q&A with some of our Queenzone readers. As Barry was the bassist with Queen before they entered any recording studio, his memories of the band are quite a keen snapshot of the period. (This also demonstrates that all those illegal MP3 downloads claiming to be pre-John Deacon are nonsense - as Queen never recorded in any studio - without John).

Here, I have distilled his answers into some sort of coherent feature, which hopefully sheds some new light on the Eponymous Queen debut album.

Again, my thanks to Barry, who took the time to answer these questions.

Queen Live
Q: Setlist - Live, Ewell Technical College, London, 9 January 1971?
A: If my fading memory serves me right the set consisted of these songs; Keep yourself alive, Doing alright, Liar, Great king rat, Modern times rock and roll, Son and daughter, Hangman, And of course the rock`n roll medley

Queen: Unreleased, Live, Ewell Technical College, London, 9 January 1971
Freddie Bulsara: Vocals
Brian May: Guitar
Roger Meddows Taylor: Drums
Barry Mitchell: Bass
Supporting Kevin Ayers And The Whole World Band, Flying Fortress and Genesis.
Ken Testi recorded the entire set on a Grundig tape recorder, but only the Rock and Roll Medley remains.
A flyer for this concert is briefly viewed in the official “Genesis - Archive” video
Keep Yourself Alive, Doing Alright, Liar, Great King Rat, Modern Times Rock and Roll, Son and Daughter, Hangman
Rock and Roll Medley: Jailhouse Rock, Stupid Cupid, Bebopa Lula, Big Spender, Bama Lama Lama Loo


Studio Material
Q: When you were with the band, was there any talk at that time of going into a studio with you? It would be interesting to know what the extent of the band's ambition was at that time
A: I dont ever remember any talk about recording. We were really focused on getting a full set of material together for live shows. However there was an obvious desire to take the band forward. Particularly on the part of Freddie (no surprise there).

Smile
Q: In terms of the material that you guys were playing - in sound checks and rehearsals etc - what were you playing? Was it all original Queen material or were you trying more cover versions? Were you playing Smile material still at that stage?
A: I think it was mostly Smile material, some of it might have been written after Smile. I dont really know to be honest.

Doing All Right
Q: Doing All right must have sounded very different in those early days. Without piano it must have been a guitar-arranged version closer to the Smile version than the final piano version we can hear on Queen. Any memories on the development of that song?
A: It was probably the first song that I worked on with the guys, and we did it much the same way that Smile did it. Any development of it came after my departure.

My Fairy King
Q: did you guys ever work on songs that didn't make it to shows or later- albums? Did you ever contribute any songs but they weren't used? Or maybe someone else brought a tune and it wasn't considered good enough to be played?
A: I don’t remember any songs that we worked on not making it. I do remember a song that was not ready for performance by the time I left, My Fairy King.
Q: My Fairy King, was it already completed? if so, was it a guitar version or a piano version? What do you think about Fred's piano abilities back then?
A: No, Fairy King was just the germ of an idea of Freddie’s. Back then I had no idea that Freddie played any instrument.

Liar
Q: Did you write the bass line to "Liar"?
A: Liar sounds much the same as when I played it.

The Night Comes Down/Jesus
Q: Do you remember if songs like The Night Comes Down or Jesus were included in the set at least once?
A: I don’t believe so. I do recall working on Jesus at rehearsals I think.

Modern Times Rock ‘n Roll
Q: Do you remember if Roger sang


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Posted: 17 Oct 05, 11:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Nice compilation, John! Thanks!

Sadly we forgot to ask about some tunes not from the first album, but which were written before recording of 'Queen' - like 'White Queen'.

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Posted: 17 Oct 05, 12:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks John! And thanks Barry!

It's great to see that someone has the time and energy to gather and compile all this infromation before it's lost somewhere in the gloomy depths of the Internet.

We'd really need to create a database for all this priceless information.

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Posted: 17 Oct 05, 13:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Serry... wrote:

Nice compilation, John! Thanks!

Sadly we forgot to ask about some tunes not from the first album, but which were written before recording of 'Queen' - like 'White Queen'.

He's still around every now and then!
Best thing to do is post your question in the initial first topics (link in firsts post). He'll notice ;-)

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Posted: 17 Oct 05, 14:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's a very nice recording. About VG, and in some parts even VG+.


John: "It's the one thing I wish I could do - sing."

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Posted: 17 Oct 05, 15:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font color=green>Rick wrote:

It's a very nice recording. About VG, and in some parts even VG+.

Yes it IS nice indeed.
I 'remastered' it (sort of) and speed-corrected it; sounds even better! :-)
If I were Barry Mitchell, I would have speed-corrected it myself before selling it. It's jut two minutes work in Soundforge...

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Posted: 17 Oct 05, 17:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Fabulous post, John.

As usual you have restored my faith in the uses of the internet. Excellent work - when's the book coming out?

Cheers

Paul


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Posted: 17 Oct 05, 18:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

2 questions...

1 - In 1998 Barry ppublished a book called "I'm bitter" or something...

In this forum I read some phrases taken from this book and Barry write this thing:

"Bo rhap was a collaboration between Freddie and Barry in the eraly 70"

"At the end of the Knebworth park show in 1986, Freddie dedicated the magic tour to him, but from mic problems only Barry heard this words"

"For the Live Aid concert Freddie called him to enjoy the band on stage"

"Queen died in 1971 when He leave the band and not in 1991 when Freddie died"

And many others...

Now, dear John, or someone here, this thing are all true?

2 - For JEROEN, we can trade your remastered version? :) Please contact me at this email alessandro.carugini@libero.it

Thank you very much and sorry for my terrible english :(

I found the post where I read about the Barry's Book

http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=303597


Sorry for my english! :(
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Posted: 17 Oct 05, 19:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Um, Ale, that book title was meant to be a joke. It's not real. It is another one of fatty's humourous posts, not to be taken seriously.

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Posted: 17 Oct 05, 19:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ale_Pisa wrote:

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2 - For JEROEN, we can trade your remastered version? :) Please contact me at this email alessandro.carugini@libero.it


Ooh... I kinda got the initial recording as a gift from someone...
I don't think my dear friend would appreciate me trading it. :-S
Sorry...

(And not to mention Barry is still selling his cd's on eBay - don't want to interfere in his 'business')

When it becomes genrally available (e.g. when a download appears) I will definately share my remaster!
But if you have the recording, it's realy easy: just pitch it a bit (I believe it was one semi-tone)

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Posted: 17 Oct 05, 19:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Inu-Liger<h6>-a.k.a. Richard Guilbault- wrote:

Um, Ale, that book title was meant to be a joke. It's not real. It is another one of fatty's humourous posts, not to be taken seriously.


Ah, now I understand, I read the chat with Barry and I think "It's impossible taht is the same man!!!" :)

Tahnk you very much

For Jeroen, how can I change the speed, ecc...? Thank you again!


Sorry for my english! :(
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Posted: 18 Oct 05, 04:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I use a programm called Soundforge for everything audio-wise. (You should find a crack on the internet somewhere, I think).
With this programm, the possibilities are endless in what you can do to your audio files.
I don't know where to start, but just start fooling around with it, and you'll discover!

To speed up a recording there is a pitch-function. You can choose between pitch shift (up) and pitch bend (down) and from there you can manually settle on the pitch you want.
(If you just want to pitch the recording but not make it run faster, there is also a 'preserve duration' function.)

If you ever want to remix, remaster or do whatever weird thing to your audiofiles, this is the programm to get!!

(Do you have the Mitchell-recording Ale??)

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Posted: 18 Oct 05, 04:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Without doubt, the most interesting post I've read on here for a long, long while.

Cheers, John.


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Posted: 18 Oct 05, 10:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Even though I read the thread and actually even managed to ask few questions it's still a bloody good read- and everything put in one place makes it definitelly easier :) Thanks John :)

And I don't think we managed to ask about everything :) Still- one of the best things that has ever happened to Queenzone!!!

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Posted: 03 May 07, 02:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I was just surfing around, looking for info for my new website, and ended up here. This is worth bumping up. One of the greatest topics ever.



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Posted: 03 May 07, 04:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yeah, I still have his autograph + a personal message.


John: "It's the one thing I wish I could do - sing."

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Posted: 03 May 07, 13:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

What's your site about Sir GH?


John hated HS. Fred's fave singer was not PR. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' Witness testimonies are often inaccurate. Scotland's not in England. 'Bo Rhap' hasn't got 180 voices.
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Posted: 04 May 07, 01:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It'll basically be a bigger version of my old website. The key parts will be the bootleg analysis, Live Killers analysis, cover art archive, and the list of best bootlegs for each concert... among other things. I'm still busy getting all my data together. It's going to be a pretty big job!



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Posted: 04 May 07, 09:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Andreas Voigts has compiled an excellent "bootlegography", I don't think anybody can beat that. One has to be rich to get hold of all those pressed CD's :-)

But what is missing on the "market" is an archive with cover art. From time to time I get requests for bootleg covers but there's no site which would offer them in high resolution, am I right?

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Posted: 05 May 07, 01:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Mr. Scully wrote:

But what is missing on the "market" is an archive with cover art. From time to time I get requests for bootleg covers but there's no site which would offer them in high resolution, am I right?


I stumbled upon this UK Google images search site and found links to quite a few bootleg sites:

http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&q=Queen++bootlegs&gbv=2

Maybe one of them has the high res images you're looking for.

These sites seem pretty extensive:

http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~bach/boot/index.html
http://www.h7.dion.ne.jp/~waggoner/

Shame I don't know Japanese. Would love to read them.

And this site has some great screen caps of Queen on Japanese tv, but I can't find any of the actual clips.

http://www.h6.dion.ne.jp/~queen74/

(Sorry this has absolutely nothing to do with Barry Mitchell!)


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