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Posted: 30 Oct 05, 10:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It seems that an advertisement for Mr Brooks has been placed on "Queenonline".

"Queen Memorabilia Wanted!"

Conveniently, it also seems that we over here on Queenzone, are either not worthy, or serious collectors.

You can read the full thread here, but as for me, I say "sod 'em!".

http://forums.queenonline.com/viewtopic.php?t=26726

A letter from Greg Brooks.

Dear All,

I WANT IT ALL! Four decades of Queen memorabilia

The book was originally going to focus ONLY upon Brian's material, but he has now suggested that we might use other beautiful items as well, even if they are not owned by him. This is so that certain great items we know about, but do not actually have, can also be featured and this book can be complete and definitive.

The book will still be 95 percent Brian May Queen collection, but we do also want to include some of those other fabulous and rare treasures...

If you want to contribute to this, we are looking ONLY for mega-rare treasures that will look great on the page - the above items, plus anything else. Not ordinary items that lots of people have and which we all see all the time at fares.

Please send me scans of anything you think we should consider. Scans only please, not just written details.



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Posted: 30 Oct 05, 10:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I make an offer - as a revenge we can send them BPP to join QOL and show them all his brutality (we can say that it was GB who introduced PR to Brian and Roger, it'd be enough for our police officer)...

Well, seriously. Is it only on forum or on QOL too? Such letters must be posted on QOL (BM.com, OIQFC) but not only on its forum, IMHO. Otherwise it goes like ALL Queen fans must be on QOL forum... What an arrogance!

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Posted: 30 Oct 05, 12:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hold on a minute John. I posted that e mail over at QOL (I changed my name to 'Bye'..as I am out of that place now...and that's what it was a 'Bye Bye').

I think he has sent it to many people...and he asks that it is spread around. I for my part posted it on the board that I post on. I felt sure that someone would post it here (and you have done)...but please, don't blame Greg for this one..that's really not fair at all.

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Posted: 30 Oct 05, 12:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Greggy has also had it posted on Brian's website too.

As much as I would love a book precisely like the kind they're apparently working on, I can't conceive of myself lifting a finger to help Greg Brooks in any way, shape or form. He revealed himself to be an asshole of biblical proportions on this very site. Surely he knows how many bridges he has burned in the Queen fan community simply by being himself. What a lousy guy to have representing your organization. They might as well have hired Pol Pot to handle fan public relations.

And how sucky that the book won't be out til next Christmas (if then)? I hope I live that long.




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Posted: 30 Oct 05, 14:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

There are, for sure, more serious collectors on here..

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Posted: 30 Oct 05, 16:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Hold on a minute John. I posted that e mail over at QOL (I changed my name to 'Bye'..as I am out of that place now...and that's what it was a 'Bye Bye').

I think he has sent it to many people...and he asks that it is spread around. I for my part posted it on the board that I post on. I felt sure that someone would post it here (and you have done)...but please, don't blame Greg for this one..that's really not fair at all.


Sorry to hear that you are leaving Queenonline, however, as usual, you will always be welcome here.

But my beef is not with you FD, because as I see it, yet again it seems QPL have undertaken an amatuerish way of doing things.

In my opinion, as an individual, if "I" desired a certain "collectable", I would "advertise" everywhere - even in hell if needs be - wouldn't you?

I would be on all the major Queen sites, (including Queenonline) metaphorically shouting from the rooftops, or waving gigantic banners in letters twenty feet high if needed.

I would contact all know "big collectors" and advertise in both the local and musical press. But, then again I am only an individual with limited time and financial resources.

Yet the whole might of the Queen-machine muscle amounts to no more than a cottage industry?

Why NOT PERSONALLY advertise on QueenOnline or Queenzone and other major internet Queen sites?

My beef is with QPltd. I have not hidden the fact that I own many rarities, my e-mail address is public, (and furthermore I have supplied the company with rarities in the past), yet, they do not contact me, nor the very audience that would yield the greatest results. Furthermore, some individuals in here, are bigger collectors than I am, why not e-mail them too?

Chr*st, they know how to e-mail to tell me that Queen+ Paul Rodgers tickets are for sale, or when some stupid woman Roger sang on tour with is releasing a CD, so why not mail me as an idividual asking about memorabilla - or is it that there is NO profit margins in such mail-shots?

If QPltd REALLY desire, then do not stand around with mouths open expecting golden apples to fall from trees - trawl a little! God, they certainly have the finance and teams to do so, so why the half-assed attempt to look for memorabillia - when it could be done so much more effectively on a proper and professional basis?

Again, this is not a dig at any individual (besides a servant is only as good as his employee), but at a faceless corporation so sadly out of touch with both reality and it's hardcore fan base.


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Posted: 30 Oct 05, 16:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

In fairness, John, I spend enough time whining about people posting links to Brian's site on the basis that most of us would spot it, so I disagree that there is any suggestion of a slight towards QZ.

Personally, I'm gutted that my Game mirror broke, although I know it's not the best example out there.

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Posted: 30 Oct 05, 16:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Oh, and I would rather swallow any past disagreement than see an incomplete book that I could have completed.

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Posted: 30 Oct 05, 16:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Posted: 30 Oct 05, 16:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote



Sorry to hear that you are leaving Queenonline, however, as usual, you will always be welcome here.

But my beef is not with you FD, because as I see it, yet again it seems QPL have undertaken an amatuerish way of doing things.

In my opinion, as an individual, if "I" desired a certain "collectable", I would "advertise" everywhere - even in hell if needs be - wouldn't you?

I would be on all the major Queen sites, (including Queenonline) metaphorically shouting from the rooftops, or waving gigantic banners in letters twenty feet high if needed.

I would contact all know "big collectors" and advertise in both the local and musical press. But, then again I am only an individual with limited time and financial resources.

Yet the whole might of the Queen-machine muscle amounts to no more than a cottage industry?

Why NOT PERSONALLY advertise on QueenOnline or Queenzone and other major internet Queen sites?

My beef is with QPltd. I have not hidden the fact that I own many rarities, my e-mail address is public, (and furthermore I have supplied the company with rarities in the past), yet, they do not contact me, nor the very audience that would yield the greatest results. Furthermore, some individuals in here, are bigger collectors than I am, why not e-mail them too?

Chr*st, they know how to e-mail to tell me that Queen+ Paul Rodgers tickets are for sale, or when some stupid woman Roger sang on tour with is releasing a CD, so why not mail me as an idividual asking about memorabilla - or is it that there is NO profit margins in such mail-shots?

If QPltd REALLY desire, then do not stand around with mouths open expecting golden apples to fall from trees - trawl a little! God, they certainly have the finance and teams to do so, so why the half-assed attempt to look for memorabillia - when it could be done so much more effectively on a proper and professional basis?

Again, this is not a dig at any individual (besides a servant is only as good as his employee), but at a faceless corporation so sadly out of touch with both reality and it's hardcore fan base.



You talk a great deal of sense John. QP do act like amateurs sometimes.

By the way...I do not know Greg, and I have never met him. I have e mailed him back to tell him that you have some stuff that may be of interest though...and that in my opinion he should e mail you. Whether he does or not is up to him.
Why not take some pictures and post them on QOL anyway John...that would really set your collection posts alight!

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Posted: 30 Oct 05, 17:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

PG & FD: To be fair, I agree with both of you. You make sense, and I respect your opinions.

I think that growing up with Queen, I know the care, and dedication they used to take before releasing a product. In the words of "Killer Queen", "Fastidious and precise...".

Now-a-days, I find I settle for the dregs of a fine wine - more my fault than theirs, I agree - but let's be honest here – officially downloading a pirated version of a commercial DVD, which Brian slated on his home page as not meeting the criteria for the official stamp of approval, is, (in my mind) the lowest of a long line of corporate cock-ups, which we can not keep pardoning both Roger and Brian from. As Truman once famously said, “The buck stops here”, and it can go no higher than our jovial Queen chappies.

I know, that this project is advertised on Brian’s homepage, and (via FD) Queenonline, but how much more personal, warm and friendly would it be for either Brian or Greg to ask in here in person? It would not have taken too much energy or effort, and may even help narrow the increasing gulf I see between the “common” fan and their god-like heroes. Or, am I expecting too much?

In any case, I wish the project well, and hope that it succeeds in all that it sets out to do, and hope that those who are able to contribute, are willing to do so.


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Posted: 30 Oct 05, 17:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ray D O'Gaga wrote:

Greggy has also had it posted on Brian's website too.

As much as I would love a book precisely like the kind they're apparently working on, I can't conceive of myself lifting a finger to help Greg Brooks in any way, shape or form. He revealed himself to be an asshole of biblical proportions on this very site. Surely he knows how many bridges he has burned in the Queen fan community simply by being himself. What a lousy guy to have representing your organization. They might as well have hired Pol Pot to handle fan public relations.

And how sucky that the book won't be out til next Christmas (if then)? I hope I live that long.



I AGREE 100% - THIS GUY IS A DICK.


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Posted: 30 Oct 05, 17:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Ray D O'Gaga wrote:

Greggy has also had it posted on Brian's website too.

As much as I would love a book precisely like the kind they're apparently working on, I can't conceive of myself lifting a finger to help Greg Brooks in any way, shape or form. He revealed himself to be an asshole of biblical proportions on this very site. Surely he knows how many bridges he has burned in the Queen fan community simply by being himself. What a lousy guy to have representing your organization. They might as well have hired Pol Pot to handle fan public relations.

And how sucky that the book won't be out til next Christmas (if then)? I hope I live that long.



I AGREE 100% - THIS GUY IS A DICK.


Ok OK, I guess I should not be so rude and blunt (coz really it is not my nature) it is just I had come from Brian's website and read this posting he had put on there wanting FANS to ONCE AGAIN give him what he wants. That is fine, but with QP it is all "take take take" and "no give" - I think Greg has done no favours to us fans that have given in the past and have been "shafted" in one way or another - that is why I got angry and I know I am not the only one that has had this experience. I shall never ever share anything with QP again, based solely on Mr Brooks - and that is pretty sad, coz I love the band so much - but there is a limit to how much some can take and how much one can stand being disappointed time and time again and left feeling rather used.

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Posted: 30 Oct 05, 18:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Now-a-days, I find I settle for the dregs of a fine wine - more my fault than theirs, I agree - but let's be honest here – officially downloading a pirated version of a commercial DVD, which Brian slated on his home page as not meeting the criteria for the official stamp of approval, is, (in my mind) the lowest of a long line of corporate cock-ups, which we can not keep pardoning both Roger and Brian from. As Truman once famously said, “The buck stops here”, and it can go no higher than our jovial Queen chappies.


When assigning blame, let's not forget St. John the Deacon, He Who Does No Wrong By Doing Nothing. Brian and Roger at least work for a living. From what I can tell, John sits at home, collects a check and let's Brian and Roger do all the heavy lifting (and take all the criticism). "Queen Productions Chief of Quality Control" seems like a nice quiet office job JD could handle with ease were he so interested. Let's start a petition!


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Posted: 30 Oct 05, 20:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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My beef is with QPltd. I have not hidden the fact that I own many rarities, my e-mail address is public, (and furthermore I have supplied the company with rarities in the past), yet, they do not contact me, nor the very audience that would yield the greatest results. Furthermore, some individuals in here, are bigger collectors than I am, why not e-mail them too?


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John, can you tell us some of your rarities that you own?? I have a decent collection, but i think that what i own others own as well.


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Posted: 30 Oct 05, 21:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

John S Stuart wrote:

officially downloading a pirated version of a commercial DVD, which Brian slated on his home page as not meeting the criteria for the official stamp of approval, is, (in my mind) the lowest of a long line of corporate cock-ups, which we can not keep pardoning both Roger and Brian from.


What is this referring to?


Roger: I like it. If you don't. Sod you!



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John S Stuart wrote:

officially downloading a pirated version of a commercial DVD, which Brian slated on his home page as not meeting the criteria for the official stamp of approval, is, (in my mind) the lowest of a long line of corporate cock-ups, which we can not keep pardoning both Roger and Brian from.


What is this referring to?


http://www.7digital.com/stores/productDetail.aspx?shop=14&sid=221194

The official "Queen: Cry Argentina" Top 100 bootleg download. Which is infact, just the sound source from the officially released "We Will Rock You" Video.

Brian slated the 5.1 Dolby surround DTX mixed DVD on his web site - as "not to his liking", yet he is happy to release this inferior, degenerated 2.0 stereo version instead?


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Posted: 31 Oct 05, 00:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

No Rock It, Need Your Loving Tonight, Flash or The Hero, but it has Under Pressure ... Yep it is Montreal ... not Argentina - Plus it has a weird song order.

Hello Queen Productions quality control? I bet this screw up has Greg's fingerprints all over it. Surely they can't have another incompetent expert like Greg employed by Queen Productions.


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Posted: 31 Oct 05, 14:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

John.
Personally, I think you should go the extra mile on this one. It is a real opportunity to share with us the memorablia treasures that you posess.
The items will still be yours, we only want the pictures! It would be a shame to see personalities get in the way...and hey, one day someone might throw that 'old tat' that you have in your loft into a skip! Haha!

Failing that, write your own book about Queen collectors, and their collections. I would buy it!

PS I have permission to give Greg's e mail address to you, if you do decide you want it. I think I know what the answer will be though...[/insert rolling eyes smiley here]

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Posted: 31 Oct 05, 14:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks FD.

As I have said before, personally, I have no problems with Greg. I think people see us as some sort of heavyweight boxers - and nothing can be further from the truth.

The truth is I like things simple, and I like to see things in "black and white". Why not, for example, some simple answers to simple questions?

What I keep saying is that my personality, my character if you like, must be anally retentive, as I like perfection, (even though I know perfectionists are the worst people in the world to live with) and it is the sloppy, slip-shod fashion in which QP's opperate (and yes Greg is part of that company) which is REALLY my big hang up.

Why can't they just do something correctly for a change? It just "seems" that since Freddie's death standards have been allowed to slip from Champions League, to the Vauxhall Conference, and as RVW so correctly points out: "Hello Queen Productions quality control?..."


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