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Posted: 02 Nov 05, 09:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hey guys!!!!!! What tour do you think was better?: The Hot Space Tour or The Magic Tour. Take care and have a wonderful day!!!!!!!!!

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Posted: 02 Nov 05, 10:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Magic Tour!
Without a doubt thats way better...


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Posted: 02 Nov 05, 10:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Difficult one!

... both Berlin gigs were Open-Air shows... 1986 was a little bit warmer temperature wise as it was a late June date... both shows finished with GSTQ... they stayed at the same hotel in 1982 and 1986... Berlin still was surrounded by the wall in both of those years... Fred was still alive & rocking in ´82 and in ´86... though he missed to take the same PanAm flight to Munich in 1986 as the rest of the group... but anyway...

... it´s got to be a tie in my opinion! ;-)

PS: Ok... judging those concerts by the amount of mosquitos at the venue... ...advantage 1982! :-)


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Posted: 02 Nov 05, 11:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

In my view Hot Space is a well underated album its well good! id say hot space my self i think freddie sings better during them concerts!

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Posted: 02 Nov 05, 12:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

They were both great!

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Posted: 02 Nov 05, 12:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Magic Tour!


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Posted: 02 Nov 05, 12:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Arlene R. Weiss wrote:

Magic Tour!


Right Arlene!!! Houston 1986 is a jewel... c´mon folks share the video!!! ;-)


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Posted: 02 Nov 05, 12:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Magic was commercially their biggest tour, and their stage presentation was fantastic. They had totally focused on the visual aspects of their show. By this point, Freddie had perfected his abilities of being an incredible entertainer. However, musically, they took few chances.

The April Hot Space setlist rocked. Liar, Somebody To Love, Get Down Make Love, Back Chat... And they experimented quite a lot with the order of songs in April, and finally found one they were happy with by May - but then they dropped Liar. Freddie's voice was in much better shape in early 82 than in most 86 shows as well.

The US and Japanese shows were mostly average shows, and by the end, they were so sick of touring and of each other that their performances were just mediocre.

So it all depends on what one feels makes a great show. The songs, the visuals, the number of people attending, etc.

But if I had to choose, I'd say Hot Space.



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Posted: 02 Nov 05, 12:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

If you mean Houston 77 check ebay. THey're all over the place now. My dvd should be in shortly. And to answer the question to the topic. I think the '82 tour was better. Lots of energy during those shows.

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Posted: 02 Nov 05, 12:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:

chewing gum bum wrote:

If you mean Houston 77 check ebay. THey're all over the place now. My dvd should be in shortly. And to answer the question to the topic. I think the '82 tour was better. Lots of energy during those shows.


Houston '86 was a joke, pal.


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<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:

chewing gum bum wrote:

If you mean Houston 77 check ebay. THey're all over the place now. My dvd should be in shortly. And to answer the question to the topic. I think the '82 tour was better. Lots of energy during those shows.


Houston '86 was a joke, pal.


Even Freddie himself wasn't sure in '86, as he said, "This is the start of our American -- no, European tour!"

Silly Freddie.

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Posted: 02 Nov 05, 13:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Freddie's voice was much much better during '82. Probably the best his voice ever sounded live on a consistent basis. I would probably prefer the setlist of '86.


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Posted: 02 Nov 05, 13:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:

chewing gum bum wrote:

If you mean Houston 77 check ebay. THey're all over the place now. My dvd should be in shortly. And to answer the question to the topic. I think the '82 tour was better. Lots of energy during those shows.


Houston '86 was a joke, pal.



well it wasn't a great gig, but i wouldn;t go so far as to say it was THAT bad! ;-)


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Posted: 02 Nov 05, 13:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Nooooooo way... let´s reduce it to just one song!!!

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Posted: 02 Nov 05, 14:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I love both and freddie had great shows during both tours but I think I prefer hot space tour since MK gig is absolutely the better compared to wembley


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Posted: 02 Nov 05, 14:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

All right, this is a tough one, so i'll break it down.

Song Selection:

Hot Space Tour - They had just released Hot Space, which was a failure commercially, but still had its good moments. Under Pressure, Action This Day, Staying Power, Body Language, and Back Chat were played very well on this tour, even better than the studio versions. The fast version of WWRY was also included.
They went as far back as 1974 with such songs as Now I'm Here and Love Of My Life. A great mix of old and new, with songs being added and dropped along the way.

Magic Tour - Once again, they had released a new album, A Kind Of Magic. Four tracks from the album were played during this tour, Who Wants To Live Forever, One Vision, Friends Will Be Friends, and the title track. Excerpts from Liar and Keep Yourself Alive, two of their earliest tracks, can be heard, the former being the intro to Tear It Up during their performance at Wembley. Seven Seas Of Rhye, Now I'm Here, and other earlier tracks can be prominently heard during this tour as well. This tour also featured classic non-Queen songs such as You're So Square, Tutti Frutti, and Big Spender, performed excellently by the band. Another great mix of old and new, with some surprises as well.

Winner: Magic Tour

Freddie's Voice:

Hot Space Tour - Freddie was in excellent condition throughout most of the tour. He was able to hit many high notes, especially in songs such as WATC, TYMD, and even Action This Day. Very light and playful, he was able to tackle softer songs such as Play The Game, and also rough tracks like Sheer Heart Attack. Strong, but not too strong.

Magic Tour - Freddie's voice underwent changes within the four years between '82 and '86. He began smoking and drinking more, which roughened his voice, and sometimes limited his range. His voice cracked during some songs, and other songs he would instantly go lower with his voice. His vocal improvisations were unharmed, however, and were certainly fun to play along with.

Winner: Hot Space Tour

Best Venue:

Hot Space Tour - The Milton Keynes Bowl in Milton Keynes, England. A small venue in comparison to Wembley, but worked for them nonetheless. The crowd, though not extremely large, can be heard very well during many songs, and, being an outdoor venue, was impeccable.

Magic Tour - Wembley Stadium. The Madison Square Garden of Europe, in my opinion. Very large; fans by the thousands could fit into it. The structure of the stadium also allowed for sound to be carried all the way to the back rows. The sound could also be reflected off of the structure, so everything was heard almost clearly. A fine venue, for a very fine band. One concert was not enough, so i'm glad they did 2 shows there.

Winner: Magic Tour

Anything Else?

Hot Space Tour - The instruments used were good. The drums were very strong, and Brian's licks were beyond anything at the time. Fantastic shows, especially Milton Keynes (MK was the last show there, though it was supposed to end in London)

Magic Tour - Pretty much their most famous tour, with songs from all across their catalogue. Though Freddie was not at his best in my opinion, he led the way through every show. Brian, Roger, and John knew exactly what to do, and this tour is by far the best one!

Final Score:
Magic Tour - 2
Hot Space Tour - 1

Verdict: Magic Tour!!! Rock on!


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Posted: 02 Nov 05, 14:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Magic Tour was great, really loved John during that tour. I mean, he was jumping around and stuff (and did many backing vocals!), not the shy guy, just Johnnyboy.

Hot Space tour has a much better setlist and much better performances.

I go for Hot Space, but Magic Tour is very close.


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Posted: 02 Nov 05, 15:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

In terms of setlist, I'd say the Hot Space tour. I'm sorry but why did Queen drop Somebody To Love post '85? Play The Game and Fat Bottomed Girls should also have been included, as they sounded really tight on the Hot Space tour. As did Dragon Attack, which for me is the highlight of the On Fire disc-so sharp. Hardly any of the piano based soongs appear on the Magic tour. Freddie must have got bored of playing it!

In terms of power, spectacle and presentation though, the Magic tour wins hands down. Fred may not have had the subtlety with his voice but he belts out One Vision, Tie Your Mother Down etc. with incredible gusto. The rocked-up versions of Magic and Under Pressure sound great and Freddie seems so much better at working a big audience than he did in '82. They were much more confident and put on great shows. Overall then, it has to be The Magic tour, though, in hindsight I would have liked to have seen those piano favourites in the set; when one bears in mind that it would be Freddie's last curtain.


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Posted: 02 Nov 05, 16:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Rotwang wrote:

Freddie's voice was much much better during '82. Probably the best his voice ever sounded live on a consistent basis. I would probably prefer the setlist of '86.


Indeed... i agree very much.. Freddie oversings himself after a feq sonfs during the 1986 tour


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