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Posted: 18 Nov 05, 14:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ok, what is the record for the greatest Queen Concert? For Europe, I know that supposedly the Knewbworth concert was their biggest attendance in Europe, but they say around 125,000 people attended, yet Hyde Park had 150,000 people, who why isnt it Hyde Park the greates attendance in the EU? Also, I read in i believe it was a Mojo Special Issue about the grestest Bands of all times accourding to their UK records charts, and it claimed that thier biggest concert was that at the Morumbi Stadium in Brazil, yet that was 131,000 people. But Ive heard that Knebworth was more about 200,000 poeple instead 125,000. So, does anyone know what was their geates attendance of a concert, besides Rock in Rio?


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Posted: 18 Nov 05, 14:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Knebworth is said to be 140.000 officially and about 200.000 inofficially. Hyde Park was 150.000, but that was for free - normally the statistics go for paying audiences. Therefore Morumbi at the time before '86 was the biggest (in history), as it was only for ONE band. I suppose Support Acts are counted in.
So IMO their biggest ever paying audience was at Knebworth.
By now I think bands like U2 or the stones have beaten that record. Robbie certainly did with 3 nights at Knebworth.
Actually being called the inventors of stadium rock, Queen played not that many stadium gigs, compared to the Stones or Pink Floyd. But in 1981 they absolutely set a very high standard in South America.


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Posted: 18 Nov 05, 16:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

yeah, I always thought Knebworth twas the biggest paying audience. I dont know why poele keep aestimating it at 120,000 when it was more than that offically anyways. Yeah it kind of sucks that Queen's record has been shattered since but i know that if they were still around touring they would would be breaking ll kinds of attendance records, even their own from previous years. Yeah Robbie Williams broke it in 3 nights, but Queen set it in one night. Wish Freddie was still around and that the original Queen were touring, I guess we'll never see the greatest live performers on stage again.


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Posted: 19 Nov 05, 07:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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yeah, I always thought Knebworth twas the biggest paying audience. I dont know why poele keep aestimating it at 120,000 when it was more than that offically anyways. Yeah it kind of sucks that Queen's record has been shattered since but i know that if they were still around touring they would would be breaking ll kinds of attendance records, even their own from previous years. Yeah Robbie Williams broke it in 3 nights, but Queen set it in one night. Wish Freddie was still around and that the original Queen were touring, I guess we'll never see the greatest live performers on stage again.


Knebworth is 120,000. That is the capacity. Robbie played 3 nights so it came to more. As you said Hyde Park was free so that doesn't count. Morumbi Staium, as far as I know, is the highest paying attendance for a gig with one band (as in not a festival).


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Posted: 19 Nov 05, 08:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

But how can people like Robbie Williams claim the biggest attendance, 120 thousand people a night is still only 120,000. If it was all about how many people attended in total at a venue, we could say Queen filled Wembley 3 times over (twice in 86 and again in 92).

If you are just talking about a paying audience then the tribute concert would probably be the biggest concert for one band plus support acts, after all 76,000 in the stadium and a couple million at home watching on the BBC (which due to the unique way of funding means that everyone in the UK with a TV is paying to watch the BBC like it or not).

And at the end of the day all the people at the back of the stadium were so far from the stage they watched it on the big screens anyway so what is the difference to watching on TV.

If artists want to claim attendance records for multiple nights then they should do it for the entire tour.

It is the same when they claim that they have sold out the tickets in the fastest time ever, but the thing is people buy tickets differently now to the way they did 20 years ago.

Back in 1986 the only way to get your tickets was in person from the box office, or by phone. There are a finite number of phone lines, so people would have to wait their turn and keep retrying.

Now we have the internet, a thousand people a second can probably by tickets at the same time. With that sort of ability the Wembley nights of the Magic tour could have sold out in 15 seconds. All these promoters need to remember that ticket sales records will fall as the methods of selling become faster. You can't compare 2 different things.

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Posted: 19 Nov 05, 10:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You`re right, just because Robbie filled Knebworth for three nights that doesn`t mean he has the record. Oasis were much bigger than Robbie in `96 and could have filled more than three nights if they wanted to.

Officially the record of Knebworth belongs to Led Zeppelin in 79, were they estimated 210.000 people by analising pictures taken by NASA from the space (it´s the same thing -officially 150.000 but they said it was more).

In 1986 Queen oficially sold 120.000 people, but according to Brian and several papers at the time, they said that due to the lack of control at the gates, thre were 300.000 people in the place. Brian said that it was impossible to be "just" 120.000 people because that was the biggest concert of their career.

Well, if you want my opinion, i think that there were no 300.000 people, because even with the lack of control it doesn`t make sense to duplicate the number.

In Rock In Rio there were 320.000 people and you can say it`s true because if you watch the video there are certain shots by the cameres were they almost turn 180º just filming the people. Very impressive!!

In Sao Paulo they have 131.000 the first night and 127.000 the second night, so the record for a single band (without support band) was set by the first night. This record was broke by Frank Sinatra in 84 at the Maracana stadium for a record attendance of 184.000 people. The concert was promoted by Roberto Medina the Rock In Rio promoter. But records are what they are because Queen were prohibited of playing in Maracana and they could by that time established the all time record, because instead of a tour they could have easilly sold 400.000 for one venue.

As for Wembley in 86 it`s the same thing. They sold two nights (144.000 people) but there were 500.000 people looking for those tickets despite the fact the they have already sold other stadiums in UK for the same tour. So, they sold about 400.000 tickets in UK alone in 86 but they could have gonne until 800.000 tickets easily.

In 87 Mickael Jackson sold out seven nights at Wembley in the summer due to the demand of tickets.

As far as free concerts go, Rod Stewart gave a free concert at the Copacabana beach and it´s in the Guiness book of records as the biggest one: about 4.000.000 (four million)... uhau!

But, the biggest one is Jean michel jarre, for several ocasions he has played for more than a million people.

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Posted: 19 Nov 05, 14:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Paul McCartney = 208.000, Maracana Stadium


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Posted: 19 Nov 05, 14:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

What about the Simon & Garfunkel Central Park concert in 1981? I thought there were >250.000 people there, definately more than at the Queen show in Sao Paulo the same year.

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Posted: 19 Nov 05, 14:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Led Zeppelin in '79 was not attended by 210,000 people or anywhere near 180,000. it was much less than that. I have the paper where it says so, it was about 100,000 people.


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Posted: 19 Nov 05, 14:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Size doesn't matter.

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Posted: 19 Nov 05, 19:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

greaserkat wrote:

Led Zeppelin in '79 was not attended by 210,000 people or anywhere near 180,000. it was much less than that. I have the paper where it says so, it was about 100,000 people.


The numbers i presented were at a biography of the band. As you may know there are at least three versions of the attendance, so they went for the biggest one.

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Posted: 19 Nov 05, 19:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Leonardo Venegas wrote:

Paul McCartney = 208.000, Maracana Stadium


Wich year was this?- Because during the 80`s they restricted the Maracana audience because of the poor conditions of the stadium.

I heard that McCartney set the record for a single artist in 84(?) but i thought there were 184.000 (sell-out) about the same time as Sinatra (the issue here is that i don`t know wich one detroned the other). Ten years ago i heard that the Stones were going to try to break the record in Maracana playing for 190.000 people (don`t know if they`ve donne it)

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Posted: 08 Mar 15, 23:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

How about this number? The Works Tour in 1984/1985 was one of Queen's largest tours and included the Brazil Rock in Rio festival—in which they appeared on stage at two o'clock in the morning in front of 325,000 people for each night.

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Posted: 08 Mar 15, 23:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Biggest attendance:

Estadio Centenario, Montevideo, Uruguay, 23 November 1983

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Posted: 09 Mar 15, 11:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I got my info from Wiki. I am watching, and have been watching a lot the last couple of days, a tribute DVD from Montreal that Brian and Roger have commentary as an option and it is great!!!

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Posted: 09 Mar 15, 11:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Bobby_brown wrote:
In 87 Mickael Jackson sold out seven nights at Wembley in the summer due to the demand of tickets.


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Queen & Paul Rodgers, Ukraine 2008 was a biggie??

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Posted: 10 Mar 15, 08:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

^^^^^ 350 thousand was the official figure. They also played a huge show, their First with AL in 2012 between 120 and 180 thousand depending on who you believe.

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I DIDN'T SAY THAT DID I? I DON'T PARTICULARLY LIKE ANY OF THE FREDDIE WANNA BE SINGERS. ADAM LAMBERT COMES CLOSE BUT ALL HE KNOWS HOW TO DO IS SING. DON'T THROW THINGS AT ME. i LOVE ADAM BUT IN A DIFFERENT VENUE.