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Posted: 23 Nov 05, 06:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Does anyone else think it's uncanny how close the bass line of ABTD is to "Sugar Hill Gang's" "Christamas Rapping" circa 1979?

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Posted: 23 Nov 05, 07:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Uhm, The Sugarhill Gang hit "Rapper's Delight" samples "Good Times" by Chic. And John almost does the same thing... Never head of the Christmas-thing you mention, but I sense another CHIC-sample.

So, that's why they sound similar (most likely).


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Posted: 23 Nov 05, 07:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

pma wrote:

Uhm, The Sugarhill Gang hit "Rapper's Delight" samples "Good Times" by Chic. And John almost does the same thing... Never head of the Christmas-thing you mention, but I sense another CHIC-sample.

So, that's why they sound similar (most likely).


true but if you check out "Christmas Rapping" which was before "Rappers Delight" you will hear even more of an influence.

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Posted: 23 Nov 05, 07:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

4freddie wrote:

Does anyone else think it's uncanny how close the bass line of ABTD is to "Sugar Hill Gang's" "Christamas Rapping" circa 1979?

I'm sorry It was not SUGAR HILL GANG but "Kurtis Blow" who did "Christmas Rapping" So John must have gotten a hold of some BLOW

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Posted: 23 Nov 05, 07:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's the boogie era, when the bassline was much all the same. Or very slightly different.


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Posted: 23 Nov 05, 08:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I always wanted to know....

How exactly does one Boogie?


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Posted: 23 Nov 05, 15:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

4freddie wrote:

4freddie wrote:

Does anyone else think it's uncanny how close the bass line of ABTD is to "Sugar Hill Gang's" "Christamas Rapping" circa 1979?

I'm sorry It was not SUGAR HILL GANG but "Kurtis Blow" who did "Christmas Rapping" So John must have gotten a hold of some BLOW


Just reading the words in caps, one would think you were trying to tell us something... ;)


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Posted: 23 Nov 05, 15:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

An Ordinary Guy wrote:

It's the boogie era, when the bassline was much all the same. Or very slightly different.


Go take a history lesson babe, John puposely lifted the "Good times" bass for another one bites the dust> it wasn't the coincidence you people are implying.

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Posted: 24 Nov 05, 06:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I know about the "Good Times" issue, just stating that the boogie basslines sound fairly resemblant (to me).


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Posted: 11 Dec 05, 09:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Don't you mean 'Rapper's Delight'? As mentioned above, the backing for 'Rapper's Delight' is lifted straight off Chic's 'Good Times' while AOBTD is a completely new recording (obviously based on the same bassline). John's bassline is actually different - less bubbly, more heavy - and despite it being influenced on an authentic funk track, was directly sampled by lots and lots of people since. From what I know, there is absolutely no connection between the Sugarhill Gang and Queen.


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Posted: 11 Dec 05, 14:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Your arguments are all fascinating, but rendered irrelevant by the fact that Good Times came out in mid 79, so whether Christmas Rapping or Rapper's Delight came first is redundant.

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Posted: 30 Dec 15, 17:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

past 3:10 time you will discover the inspiration behind the song title:
The Revenge Of The Pink Panther (1978)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tirQRHVwfg


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Posted: 31 Dec 15, 02:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

WTF?

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Posted: 31 Dec 15, 06:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

John Deacon saw that movie when it premiered and noticed that awesome line in the movie, which got stuck with him, and used it a few months later... just like BM used that line from the "Flash" movie: "Who wants to live forever anyway!"


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Posted: 01 Jan 16, 01:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

A few years ago I had a phone interview with Chic's Nile Rodgers. He told me John was in his studio some nights...

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Posted: 01 Jan 16, 07:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Seen a few interviews on youtube with Nile, things are pretty clear about ABTD, but another interesting fact is that the "Good times" bass line was inspired by another song from the 70's.
And yes the correct used term for what Nile did or John did is:"inspired by"


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