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Posted: 30 Nov 05, 04:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I always come back to THE SHOW, trying to understand that Mega-effect it has to most of us. Well as I was listening to the first lines it hit me. John’s bass line almost cries for Freddie. If you listen carefully is like it’s supporting the brave/angry lament of Fred’s with a mellower touch. On the other hand the way the keyboard sequence goes is like underlying the inevitability of things. It is both epic and anxious, like trying to make the feeling of the up-coming death, a sound. The pattern of the keyboards is repeating itself like saying …whatever the singer cries out, things are going to come the way it was planned to come, sooner or later. It is like Freddie is hooked to that sequence, the way he was hooked to his determined fate, the time he sang that song… In other words fate is represented by that famous re-cycling pattern Roger and John wrote…. O.V.E.R - B.R.I.L.L.I.A.N.T.


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Posted: 30 Nov 05, 12:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

STELIOS wrote:

I always come back to THE SHOW, trying to understand that Mega-effect it has to most of us. Well as I was listening to the first lines it hit me. John’s bass line almost cries for Freddie. If you listen carefully is like it’s supporting the brave/angry lament of Fred’s with a mellower touch. On the other hand the way the keyboard sequence goes is like underlying the inevitability of things. It is both epic and anxious, like trying to make the feeling of the up-coming death, a sound. The pattern of the keyboards is repeating itself like saying …whatever the singer cries out, things are going to come the way it was planned to come, sooner or later. It is like Freddie is hooked to that sequence, the way he was hooked to his determined fate, the time he sang that song… In other words fate is represented by that famous re-cycling pattern Roger and John wrote…. O.V.E.R - B.R.I.L.L.I.A.N.T.


By the way, who sings the chorus? Freddie, Brian & Roger? Or simply Freddie and Brian?

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Posted: 03 Dec 05, 23:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

By the way, who sings the chorus? Freddie, Brian & Roger? Or simply Freddie and Brian?


I've always heard Brian, for the most part, and Freddie equally. Towards the end of the song it sounds like the three of them, dubbed almost infinately.

I still get chills when Freddie hits "I'll face it with a grin/I'm never giving in/On with the show...". EVERY time.



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Posted: 05 Dec 05, 04:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote




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STELIOS wrote:

I always come back to THE SHOW, trying to understand that Mega-effect it has to most of us. Well as I was listening to the first lines it hit me. John’s bass line almost cries for Freddie. If you listen carefully is like it’s supporting the brave/angry lament of Fred’s with a mellower touch. On the other hand the way the keyboard sequence goes is like underlying the inevitability of things. It is both epic and anxious, like trying to make the feeling of the up-coming death, a sound. The pattern of the keyboards is repeating itself like saying …whatever the singer cries out, things are going to come the way it was planned to come, sooner or later. It is like Freddie is hooked to that sequence, the way he was hooked to his determined fate, the time he sang that song… In other words fate is represented by that famous re-cycling pattern Roger and John wrote…. O.V.E.R - B.R.I.L.L.I.A.N.T.


Although I do agree that this song is pure genius, I think you’re looking at it the wrong way. Even though Freddie sang it and the lyrics where attributed to Queen, according to the QMS, Brian holds the 'credit' for this song mainly because the majority of the lyrics were his work. The song is mainly about Brian’s failed marriage and any links to Freddie’s last days and/or death are purely coincidental.


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Posted: 05 Dec 05, 09:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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STELIOS wrote:

I always come back to THE SHOW, trying to understand that Mega-effect it has to most of us. Well as I was listening to the first lines it hit me. John’s bass line almost cries for Freddie. If you listen carefully is like it’s supporting the brave/angry lament of Fred’s with a mellower touch. On the other hand the way the keyboard sequence goes is like underlying the inevitability of things. It is both epic and anxious, like trying to make the feeling of the up-coming death, a sound. The pattern of the keyboards is repeating itself like saying …whatever the singer cries out, things are going to come the way it was planned to come, sooner or later. It is like Freddie is hooked to that sequence, the way he was hooked to his determined fate, the time he sang that song… In other words fate is represented by that famous re-cycling pattern Roger and John wrote…. O.V.E.R - B.R.I.L.L.I.A.N.T.


Although I do agree that this song is pure genius, I think you’re looking at it the wrong way. Even though Freddie sang it and the lyrics where attributed to Queen, according to the QMS, Brian holds the 'credit' for this song mainly because the majority of the lyrics were his work. The song is mainly about Brian’s failed marriage and any links to Freddie’s last days and/or death are purely coincidental.


Purely co-incidental? I've heard it all now...


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Posted: 08 Dec 05, 07:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Madman007 wrote:

STELIOS wrote:

I always come back to THE SHOW, trying to understand that Mega-effect it has to most of us. Well as I was listening to the first lines it hit me. John’s bass line almost cries for Freddie. If you listen carefully is like it’s supporting the brave/angry lament of Fred’s with a mellower touch. On the other hand the way the keyboard sequence goes is like underlying the inevitability of things. It is both epic and anxious, like trying to make the feeling of the up-coming death, a sound. The pattern of the keyboards is repeating itself like saying …whatever the singer cries out, things are going to come the way it was planned to come, sooner or later. It is like Freddie is hooked to that sequence, the way he was hooked to his determined fate, the time he sang that song… In other words fate is represented by that famous re-cycling pattern Roger and John wrote…. O.V.E.R - B.R.I.L.L.I.A.N.T.


Although I do agree that this song is pure genius, I think you’re looking at it the wrong way. Even though Freddie sang it and the lyrics where attributed to Queen, according to the QMS, Brian holds the 'credit' for this song mainly because the majority of the lyrics were his work. The song is mainly about Brian’s failed marriage and any links to Freddie’s last days and/or death are purely coincidental.


Purely co-incidental? I've heard it all now...


I really didn't mean it like that... of course it's got refrences to Freddie's short time left with the band... what I meant was that the song is mostly about Brian's divorce to his first wife, Christine Mullen.


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Posted: 13 Dec 05, 08:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

At that time I think it was really Brian expressing what he thought goes on in Freddies mind. His marriage had broken up two years earlier I think ("I was going through the shit at that time" in the comment on GVH II about the making of the Breakthrough-Vid). Knowing that Freddie was actually going to die soon - no denial possible as he visibly was becoming more and more sick - made him the perfect vehicle for Freddie to express their feelings.

Freddie did not want to talk or write about it personally and "used" Bri on that, as his frustrations about life bursted out. I see what you mean, but I am really convinced that it is a mixture of all this stuff, driven by Freddie's terminal state. Brians father died and there he was, one of the most famous musicians in the world with a divorce and two of his closest people dying. But to me, the other things only fueled his lyrics, but the main inspiration was Freddie's way of dealing with things.

Freddie's own songs written at the time are not going into the topic too deeply. A winters Tale may be seen as a farewell from someone who in his last days enjoys the beauty and the calm of the alps, but a few years earlier it would've been just a nice ballad by Fred, with no deeper meaning. Also Delilah is "pure escapism" in the truest Queen-sense of the word.

In the end we can just guess where it came from. But as always, the song is open to everyones interpretation - as Freddie used to put it:

"If you see it, it's in there !"


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Posted: 13 Dec 05, 09:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Brilliant comment Regor and very well put.


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Posted: 13 Dec 05, 10:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thank you. :-)


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Posted: 16 Dec 05, 05:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yeah I totally agree with you Regor. Great analysis.
Though Bri wrote the song for the most part it can't be coincidental.



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