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Posted: 30 Nov 05, 11:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hello everyone. I have been playing the drums for many years and the question I have for you guys is, what drumset of Rogers do you prefer, his Hot Space Kit or Magic Kit?

In 1982, he used Simmons Electronic Pads, Roto Toms and had a cowbell for special effects.

In 1986, he used Triggers on his drums, and had an Octapad for special effects, but he did not use a cowbell during that year.

I loved his '82 Set, because of the pads and cowbell, but I have been watching Live in Budapest '86 a lot recently and when I hear Radio Ga Ga being played, Roger's set sound awesome.

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Posted: 30 Nov 05, 12:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I would say 1986 he was excellent in the Magic Tour!!!

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Posted: 30 Nov 05, 12:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

1986. definitely.


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Posted: 30 Nov 05, 12:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm not a technical expert on this but I think it is safe to assume the 1982 sound was geared towards the Hot Space tracks....

Personally I prefer the 1982 shows and therefore will go with that as opposed to 1986.

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Posted: 30 Nov 05, 12:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

well im a drummer too.I like both really.But the Yamaha 9000 kit he used in 86 was great.I didnt know he was trigging his drums..


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Posted: 30 Nov 05, 13:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I love Both!!! his tecnique fits in any Drumset!! Isnt it??

The drumsets is not excellent for him, He is excelent for drum set!!

I am not being analysing the sound tecnically but thats it.. in my oppinion


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Posted: 30 Nov 05, 14:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Roger, although class behind any kit, and obviously adapted with age, types of songs, the changing Queen sound etc, I always thought was most impressive in the early days, mid-late seventies perhaps. Big kits, loadsa cymbals, like a rib-cage of drums. All those toms - love it.

Watching him fly round a huge kit is just a constant highlight of any show.

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Posted: 30 Nov 05, 17:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Im not sure. I know both sets where very different

82
26 bass
10, 12, 14 toms
16 and 18 floor toms

86
22 bass
12,13,14 toms
16 and 18 floor toms

Not to mention with different heads (in 82 he used Ludwig Rockers and in 86 he used Remo Pinstripes)

But for my favorite sounding drums, id say it would be 77-79. But id pick 86 because I think Roger kinda killed the fun in 82 with his electrics. So 86 all the way.



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Posted: 30 Nov 05, 18:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

1986-magic tour
best drum sound ever,i think
best druming in 1977,78 NOTW tour


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Posted: 30 Nov 05, 18:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The only thing I didn't like about the 82 tour and Hot Space was those damn Simmons drums. They should call them Electric, not Electronic, cause that infers a brain being present.

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Posted: 01 Dec 05, 04:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Personally, the chrome, Ludwig 82 Kit did it for me, the simmons stuff was not used that much, in fact to this day he still uses triggers, on the 2005 tour he was using a trigger on his Bass Drum.

The 86 kit was a disappointment to me visually however it sounded great in the stadium, the older Ludwig black kits were wonderfully large but apparently difficult to mic.

The new version of his Ludwig maple kit is the one I feel sounds best live of the ones I've seen, with the silver sparkle coming last, but that was just the way he had the mics set up at the time, the kit was no different basically to his old black ones.


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Posted: 01 Dec 05, 10:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think the 82 set has a fuller sound. I didn't like his 86 sound especially the snare. It sounded artificial to me.


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