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Posted: 11 Dec 05, 10:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Sen. Eugene J. McCarthy was an atypical politician, a former college professor with a witty, erudite speaking style. His surprising 1968 presidential campaign turned him into a spokesman for a generation angry about the war in Vietnam.

McCarthy, 89, died in his sleep Saturday at an assisted living home in the Georgetown neighborhood where he had lived for the past few years, said his son, Michael.

A Minnesota Democrat, McCarthy challenged President Lyndon B. Johnson for the 1968 Democratic nomination during growing debate over Vietnam, leading to Johnson's withdrawal from the race and forcing the Democratic Party to take McCarthy's antiwar message seriously.

The former senator, who ran for president five times, wrote poetry in his spare time and was the author of several books.

"He was thoughtful and he was principled and he was compassionate and he had a good sense of humor," his son said.

When Eugene McCarthy ran for president in 1992, he explained his decision to leave the seclusion of his home in rural Woodville, Virginia, for the campaign trail by quoting Plutarch, the ancient Greek historian: "They are wrong who think that politics is like an ocean voyage or military campaign, something to be done with some particular end in view."

McCarthy got less than 1 percent of the vote in 1992 in New Hampshire, the state where he helped change history 24 years earlier.

Helped by his legion of idealistic young volunteers known as "clean-for-Gene kids," McCarthy got 42 percent of the vote in the state's 1968 Democratic primary. That showing embarrassed Johnson into withdrawing from the race and throwing his support to his vice president, Hubert H. Humphrey.

Sen. Robert Kennedy of New York also decided to seek the nomination, but was assassinated in June 1968. McCarthy and his followers went to the party convention in Chicago, where fellow Minnesotan Humphrey won the nomination amid bitter strife both on the convention floor and in the streets.

Humphrey went on to narrowly lose the general election to Richard Nixon. The racial, social and political tensions within the Democratic Party in 1968 have continued to affect presidential politics ever since.

"It was a tragic year for the Democratic Party and for responsible politics, in a way," McCarthy said in a 1988 interview.

"There were already forces at work that might have torn the party apart anyway -- the growing women's movement, the growing demands for greater racial equality, an inability to incorporate all the demands of a new generation.

"But in 1968, the party became a kind of unrelated bloc of factions ... each refusing accommodation with another, each wanting control at the expense of all the others."

Although he supported the Korean War, McCarthy said he opposed the Vietnam War because "as it went on, you could tell the people running it didn't know what was going on."

Former Sen. George McGovern, D-South Dakota, said McCarthy's presidential run in 1968 dramatically changed the antiwar movement.

"It was no longer a movement of concerned citizens, but became a national political movement," McGovern said Saturday. "He was an inspiration to me in all of my life in politics." McGovern won the 1972 Democratic presidential nomination, when McCarthy ran a second time.
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I miss Senator McCarthy. He was a great politician and an even greater man. He sent me a nice letter after I wrote to him and said I liked his book, too!

RIP Senator McCarthy *hugs*



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Posted: 11 Dec 05, 10:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Alex Solan wrote:

Since when has your social life died?


You're the one replying to me, you must have less of a life than me!


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Posted: 11 Dec 05, 10:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well.. before I started I know her ;)


I got to try al little more,

because I'm an asshole but I'm learning.



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Posted: 11 Dec 05, 10:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Alex Solan wrote:

FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:

Alex Solan wrote:

Since when has your social life died?


You're the one replying to me, you must have less of a life than me!


I don't spend lots of minutes writting loads of political shit. I prefer to spend my time going out with my friends... do you know what that word means?



I tend to agree.


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Posted: 11 Dec 05, 11:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Alex Solan wrote:

FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:

Alex Solan wrote:

Since when has your social life died?


You're the one replying to me, you must have less of a life than me!


I don't spend lots of minutes writting loads of political shit. I prefer to spend my time going out with my friends... do you know what that word means?


Yes, I do have friends (obviously), and just because you are too stupid to take notice of the world around you doesn't mean I should be, too. And yet again... if you don't like it DON'T READ IT.


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Posted: 11 Dec 05, 11:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I appreciate the fact that he stood strong against the Vietnam War when his own party was supporting it.

Still Richard Pryor was more important. At least he made us laugh.


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Posted: 11 Dec 05, 14:12 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:

not more important than a teenage Palestine being shot dead by the Israeli army for throwing a rock.


McCarthy's success in the 1968 primaries convinced Lyndon Johnson not to run again for President. This decision put the Democrats in shambles, which got worse once Robert Kennedy was assassinated. As a result, Richard Nixon won.

After the election, Nixon began acquiring supporters, many of whom were traditional Democrats, along cultural lines. Nixon, for instance, promoted law and order, which really meant cracking down on minority and student riots across the country.

This rhetoric was developed further by Reagan and Bush, Jr. In early 2004, Bush came out in support of a Constitutional amendment that would ban gay-marriage. This action spoke to cultural conservatives who, in turn, came out in droves to vote in 2004. Thus, George W. Bush wins again.

Democrats have never been able to recover since 1968. And that's one reason why Eugene McCarthy is more important to my life than your example, Caspar.

(and no, I am not diminishing the importance of Palestine)


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The number of mobile communication subscribers has grown by 2.8 percent to 118.9m in November, the J'son & Partners analytical report says. Mobile service penetration reached 81 percent in Russia in last month, whereas in Moscow this indicator totaled 132 percent, analysts reported.

The market share of Russia's three leading mobile operators, MTS, VimpelCom (the Beeline brand) and MegaFon, amounted to 35, 34 and 19 percent respectively this November.

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The Federal Antimonopoly Service (FAS) will approve Vneshtorgbank's acquisition of 75 percent of shares in St. Petersburg-based Promstroybank (PSB), the agency's head Igor Artemyev told reporters. However, FAS will set forth certain conditions with respect to the transaction, he added. In general, this acquisition complies with Russia's antimonopoly laws.

Earlier, Vneshtorgbank announced its plans to increase its stake in PSB to 75 percent. In March this year, VTB acquired 25 percent plus one share in the bank and now wants to buy another 50 percent.

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And now about weather in Moscow on Monday: Daytime High: 33° F / 1° C
Overnight Low: 26° F / -3° C
SW at 4 mph (8 km/h)
29.13" Hg (740 mm)
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Posted: 11 Dec 05, 15:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

John Lennon and Colonel Sanders (of Kentucky Fried Chicken fame) died around the same time. I can remember my practical Dad wondering why this "Lennon person" got so much attention when after all, just LOOK at what Colonel Sanders accomplished!


Yes, it was a worthwhile experience.
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Posted: 11 Dec 05, 15:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Alex Solan wrote:

FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:

Alex Solan wrote:

Since when has your social life died?


You're the one replying to me, you must have less of a life than me!


I don't spend lots of minutes writting loads of political shit.


No, you just spend lots of minutes wriTing loads of crap. :P


Killed by drones.
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<font color =#CC00FF>***Marial-B*** wrote:

At least Serry news are interesting.... not about someone who I don't know xD


I seem to have missed the part where someone put a gun to your head and MADE you read my posts.


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Posted: 11 Dec 05, 16:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font color=FF0099>Linda Of The Valley wrote:

Brian_Mays_Wig wrote:

Alex Solan wrote:

FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:

Alex Solan wrote:

Since when has your social life died?


You're the one replying to me, you must have less of a life than me!


I don't spend lots of minutes writting loads of political shit. I prefer to spend my time going out with my friends... do you know what that word means?



I tend to agree.


Me too. But then again most of us prefer to dilike gay bashing, brain stupid, racist mass murderers.

:)



Are you referring to Bush??? How in the world is he "racist"? What the heck does "brain stupid" mean? And, gee, I seem to have missed Bush's arrests for gay bashing.


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Posted: 12 Dec 05, 06:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font color =#CC00FF>***Marial-B*** wrote:

FreddiesGhettoTrench wrote:

<font color =#CC00FF>***Marial-B*** wrote:

At least Serry news are interesting.... not about someone who I don't know xD


I seem to have missed the part where someone put a gun to your head and MADE you read my posts.


Are you as violent as Bush??? I don't think so ;)


That doesn't even make any sense.


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Posted: 12 Dec 05, 08:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

She loves violence, and I'm not talking about fictional violence from movies. I mean, REAL violence.


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Mr.Jingles wrote:

She loves violence, and I'm not talking about fictional violence from movies. I mean, REAL violence.


Just because she watches UFC doesn't mean you have to be all mean to her.


Creativity can always cover for a lack of knowledge.
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Music Man wrote:

Mr.Jingles wrote:

She loves violence, and I'm not talking about fictional violence from movies. I mean, REAL violence.


Just because she watches UFC doesn't mean you have to be all mean to her.


Call it comic relief.


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Posted: 12 Dec 05, 10:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Was this the same guy who started all the McCarthyism bullshit, and accusing people of being communist and ruining their lifes?


Um, Whoooaaa!...?
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Posted: 12 Dec 05, 10:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

No, that was Joseph McCarthy.

While both had the same last name there was no affiliation between either one. Plus, both were complete political opossites. Joseph McCarthy was a right wing nut and an extremist, while Eugene McCarthy was a moderate liberal who campaigned to put an end to the Vietnam War.


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Posted: 12 Dec 05, 11:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Mr.Jingles wrote:

No, that was Joseph McCarthy.

While both had the same last name there was no affiliation between either one. Plus, both were complete political opossites. Joseph McCarthy was a right wing nut and an extremist, while Eugene McCarthy was a moderate liberal who campaigned to put an end to the Vietnam War.


Well, not necessarily a moderate. I think he was a bit of an economic conservative, but on social issues I would peg him as pretty far to the left. He was definitely a decidedly anti-war candidate.


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Posted: 13 Dec 05, 13:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Mr.Jingles wrote:

No, that was Joseph McCarthy.

While both had the same last name there was no affiliation between either one. Plus, both were complete political opossites. Joseph McCarthy was a right wing nut and an extremist, while Eugene McCarthy was a moderate liberal who campaigned to put an end to the Vietnam War.


Thanks for the clarification, really. I thought there was just one McCarthy doing ALL of those things which really confused me because a number of those things were opposites.


Yes, it was a worthwhile experience.