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Posted: 24 Dec 05, 00:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Okay I was just watching GHV2 and on Princes of the universe on the close up of freddie's face at the beginning when he momes the "fighting to survive in a world with the darkest powers" on the right side of his face (right side on the screen, his actual left side) it looks liek a greyish blue bruise. Could it be a sacoma (sp)? I know this is a pointless topic but posts like this is why we come to the internet

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Posted: 24 Dec 05, 05:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

possibly makeup...he was wearing some to make him look like he'd been fighting, bruised, dirty like you do after a fight...and its much related to the song...


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Posted: 24 Dec 05, 11:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'd have to say just dirty makeup!
He didn't start getting those (and in the earlier stages they're red anyway) until '87.


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Posted: 24 Dec 05, 11:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Please explain, im stupid...get what till 87'? Sarcomas?? What are they?


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Posted: 24 Dec 05, 13:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

What Is KS?

Kaposi's sarcoma (KS) is a cancer-like disease. It originally was known as a disease affecting elderly men of Eastern European or Mediterranean background. KS also occurs in African men and people with a weakened immune system. The most common cause of KS now is HIV infection.

KS usually shows up in the skin, or in the linings of the mouth, nose, or eye. KS can also spread to the lungs, liver, stomach and intestines, and lymph nodes. KS involves the development of many new, tiny blood vessels. This process is called angiogenesis. KS is caused by a herpes virus called Human Herpes Virus 8 (HHV-8). In a recent study, men with HHV-8 were nearly 12 times more likely to be diagnosed with KS than men who did not have HHV-8.

KS affects about 20% of people with AIDS who aren't taking anti-HIV drugs. The rate of KS has dropped by over 80% since the introduction of strong antiviral medications.

KS is mostly a disease of men: there are at least 8 men with KS for each woman. It is one of the most visible signs of AIDS, because it usually shows up as spots on the skin (lesions) that look red or purple on white skin, and bluish, brownish or black on dark skin. Lesions often occur on the face, arms and legs.

KS on the skin is not life threatening. However, KS lesions on the feet and legs can make it difficult to walk. If KS spreads to other parts of the body, it can cause serious problems. In the mouth lining, it can cause trouble eating and swallowing. In the stomach or gut, it can cause internal bleeding and blockages. If KS blocks lymph nodes, it can cause severe swelling of the arms, legs, face, or scrotum. The most serious form of KS is in the lungs, where it can cause a serious cough, shortness of breath, or an accumulation of fluid that can be fatal.

KS can often be diagnosed by looking at the skin lesions. They are usually flat, painless, and do not itch or drain. They can look like a bruise, but a bruise will lose its purple color if you push on it; a KS lesion won't. KS lesions can grow into raised bumps or patches and grow together. Your doctor might take a small sample (a biopsy) from skin spots to examine under a microscope and confirm a diagnosis of KS.


How Is KS Treated?
Highly active antiretroviral therapy (HAART) is the best treatment for active KS. In many people, HAART can stop the growth or even clear up skin lesions. In addition to HAART, there are different treatments for KS in the skin or in other parts of the body.

In the skin, KS may not have to be treated if there are only a few lesions. Skin lesions can be:

* Frozen with liquid nitrogen.

* Treated with radiation.

* Cut out surgically.

* Injected with anti-cancer drugs or interferon alpha.

* Treated with Panretin gel (retinoic acid).

These treatments only deal with the skin lesions, not with KS overall. Skin lesions may come back after treatment.

If KS has spread into internal organs, into internal organs, systemic (whole-body) drug treatment is used. If HAART treatment is not enough, the drugs doxorubicin (Doxil®,) daunorubicin (DaunoXome®) or paclitaxel (Taxol®) may be added.

Doxil and DaunoXome are anti-cancer drugs in "liposomal" form. "Liposomal" means that tiny amounts of drug are encased in small fat bubbles (liposomes). The drugs last longer in this form and seem to move to the areas where they're needed. Some side effects are reduced with liposomal forms of drugs.


Can KS Be Prevented?
It is not clear how HHV-8 spreads. It might be spread through sexual activity and deep kissing. As with other opportunistic infections, a healthy immune system can control HHV-8 infection. The best way to prevent KS is by using strong anti-HIV medications to keep your immune system strong.


What Else Is Being Studied for KS?
Anti-cytokine approaches: There is a lot of research on cytokines, proteins that the immune system uses to stimulate cells to

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Posted: 24 Dec 05, 14:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

oh my god thats terrible! i'll look for it!

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Posted: 25 Dec 05, 08:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Freddie seems on good form in that video to me but has anyone noticed how overweight he looks in the video for AKOM.


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Posted: 25 Dec 05, 10:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

MY god!!!!he has no signs of disease at all until 1987!!!!!
Would you say the guy was unwell by watching that video??????He's completely healthy.
Please.....


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Posted: 25 Dec 05, 17:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I love his appearence on this one . He looks handsome, adventurus, angry but sweet at the same time. He has got a boyish charm with a macho edge that i find attracive.My kind of man during this video-clip.But of course he had other sides too...Well... Love them all...Anyway.


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Posted: 25 Dec 05, 17:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

STELIOS wrote:

I love his appearence on this one . He looks handsome, adventurus, angry but sweet at the same time. He has got a boyish charm with a macho edge that i find attracive.My kind of man during this video-clip.But of course he had other sides too...Well... Love them all...Anyway.

EXACTLY.:)


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Posted: 26 Dec 05, 05:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote


Mercury in AKOM looks very fit and tight, he has no physical attributes that would suggest he looks over weight, quite the opposite. Also in Princess he looks the same i.e. fit and looks like he has been working out a fair bit.

Even in gret Pretender in 87 he looks well, its only later on we see the progression of the disease taking this toll, this subject was seriously debated some months ago, and I remember Asterik raising some fine points about the great physical decline of Mercury over the year of 1989.



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Posted: 26 Dec 05, 09:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes I actually agree with Abe here having looked at AKOM again. There's no way that you can say that anything is wrong with Mercury. Even during early '89 I don't remember a lot of people saying that he looked ill, indeed on IWIA, minus the beard and you pretty much get a chubbier version of AKOM Freddie. But as the year wore on things got worse. I suppose it's easy to say in hindsight.


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Posted: 26 Dec 05, 10:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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I'd have to say just dirty makeup!
He didn't start getting those (and in the earlier stages they're red anyway) until '87.


Look under Freddie's arms during Live AID


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Posted: 26 Dec 05, 11:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Messenger Of Leah wrote:

Zebonka12 wrote:

I'd have to say just dirty makeup!
He didn't start getting those (and in the earlier stages they're red anyway) until '87.


Look under Freddie's arms during Live AID


i saw those


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Posted: 26 Dec 05, 13:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Chubbier during I Want It All? Please. He's bony as all get out compared to what he was like in '86. The beard just helps hide things.

Marks under his arms at Live Aid? Haven't seen 'em, I don't have Live Aid. Would it be fair to say that there'd be other causes for those things?
And also, take into consideration that Kaposi Sarcoma are but one of a host of so-called "opportunistic infections" that attack somebody suffering from AIDS. And that this usually happens in the later stages.

How come Jim Hutton 'began' to notice little red marks on Freddie's hand in '87, yet failed to notice all those enormous marks you've managed to spot? I can say without much reservation that it's probably something else.


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Posted: 26 Dec 05, 13:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I noticed a mark in the Live Aid photos also. :-(
It's clear here:
http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/mp3.aspx?Q=250


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Posted: 26 Dec 05, 16:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Zebonka12 wrote:

Chubbier during I Want It All? Please. He's bony as all get out compared to what he was like in '86. QUOTE]

No I stand by what I said. In a Q magazine interview in April 1989 at that year's fan club convention one fan said that she liked Fred's new look but thought he was looking "chubby-cheeked at the moment". He definitely looked overweight in the face on that video.


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Posted: 27 Dec 05, 07:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Asterik wrote:

Zebonka12 wrote:

Chubbier during I Want It All? Please. He's bony as all get out compared to what he was like in '86. QUOTE]

No I stand by what I said. In a Q magazine interview in April 1989 at that year's fan club convention one fan said that she liked Fred's new look but thought he was looking "chubby-cheeked at the moment". He definitely looked overweight in the face on that video.


I agree with Asterik. H elooks fatter in "I want it all".
Even in the Breakthru video he seems perfectly fit though he was qite ill, acording to Brian and Rog, but they say also..."He doesn't seem ill at all!!!He was so strong!!"


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Posted: 13 Jan 06, 22:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

My god...according to that artical about KS, it suggests that Freddie had Herpies as well. Just my interpretation...


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