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Posted: 30 Dec 05, 16:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Freddies death was on number 66.
I just thought it was really stupid because they said like "Though Freddie was famous he was a very lonely man, and he filled the void with sex, drugs and rock'n'roll." And they made it look as if he was very lonely, you know, kinda isolated himself and had no friends or something, wich is a total lie, he was with Jim for five-six years or something, wasn't he?? Has anyone seen this stupid program???


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Posted: 30 Dec 05, 16:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

well if they're gonna say shit like that then i don't think any of us want to watch it..! lol simple as that, darling!


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Posted: 30 Dec 05, 17:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

lol!! Yes, you're right, it was really stupid. I just saw Freddie on the commercial for it and I became really excited, but then they just said that shit and I just became pissed.


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Posted: 30 Dec 05, 18:14 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Freddie's never been done justice on those listed shows - every one of them uses interviewees who have no fucking idea what Queen or Freddie stood for and was all about.


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Posted: 30 Dec 05, 18:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well, hasn't Freddie himself made comments about his loneliness and insecurities?

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Posted: 30 Dec 05, 18:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Freddie probably had issues with loneliness and insecurity, yes, but to say he "filled the void with sex and drugs" is totally ignorant. They are making it sound as if Freddie was another tragedy of rock n roll and that is totally unfair.

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Posted: 30 Dec 05, 19:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

jcrawford79 wrote:

Well, hasn't Freddie himself made comments about his loneliness and insecurities?


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Posted: 30 Dec 05, 19:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

as it began wrote:

Freddie probably had issues with loneliness and insecurity, yes, but to say he "filled the void with sex and drugs" is totally ignorant. They are making it sound as if Freddie was another tragedy of rock n roll and that is totally unfair.


You have my apologies. I did not realize that you knew him so intimately. You could probably entertain us queenzoners for hours with all your knowledge of every nuance of Freddie's personality.

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Posted: 30 Dec 05, 19:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

kagezan1313 wrote:

every one of them uses interviewees who have no fucking idea what Queen or Freddie stood for and was all about.


As I recall, there was a clip from a Brian interview in this program.....a studio interview, I think. But you're right, he certainly would have "no fucking idea what Queen stood for."

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Posted: 30 Dec 05, 19:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

No, there was no interview with Brian.
And I've seen quotes where Freddie said he was lonely and all that, but in this program they just didn't seem to have done so much research, since they said he was lonely and isolated and just had sex and like that, when he actually had a relationship with Jim Hutton for several years. It was just a bit uunprofesionall in my eyes.


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Posted: 30 Dec 05, 20:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

jcrawford79 wrote:

as it began wrote:

Freddie probably had issues with loneliness and insecurity, yes, but to say he "filled the void with sex and drugs" is totally ignorant. They are making it sound as if Freddie was another tragedy of rock n roll and that is totally unfair.


You have my apologies. I did not realize that you knew him so intimately. You could probably entertain us queenzoners for hours with all your knowledge of every nuance of Freddie's personality.



Ummm when did I say that I "knew him so intimately"? Please point that out for me. All I was saying was that the program made him sound like he was a lonely lost soul only turning to drugs and sex and I don't care how little I know about him that obvioulsy wasn't the case. Unless all the quotes about him saying "as long as my life is fabulous" are just total bs. And you really can't point fingers at me with yer little sarcastic statement because you "knew him" just as much as I did.

Man.... some people just have bugs up their asses.

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Posted: 30 Dec 05, 20:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

as it began wrote:

jcrawford79 wrote:

as it began wrote:

Freddie probably had issues with loneliness and insecurity, yes, but to say he "filled the void with sex and drugs" is totally ignorant. They are making it sound as if Freddie was another tragedy of rock n roll and that is totally unfair.


You have my apologies. I did not realize that you knew him so intimately. You could probably entertain us queenzoners for hours with all your knowledge of every nuance of Freddie's personality.



Ummm when did I say that I "knew him so intimately"? Please point that out for me. All I was saying was that the program made him sound like he was a lonely lost soul only turning to drugs and sex and I don't care how little I know about him that obvioulsy wasn't the case. Unless all the quotes about him saying "as long as my life is fabulous" are just total bs. And you really can't point fingers at me with yer little sarcastic statement because you "knew him" just as much as I did.

Man.... some people just have bugs up their asses.


:) I agree. It was a stupid comment.


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Posted: 30 Dec 05, 21:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes, I saw it, and i was rather angry at how they portrayed it.
And it should have been higher up on the countdown, i mean what was the number one moment? I cant even remember, but stupid things like ashton kutcher going out with demi moore was higher up than that... who cares... people date its not that shocking... unless you're talking the whole woody allen thing but thats a rare commodidity.(sp?)

And they made it sound like he did all kinds of drugs, he did coke, but he didnt really like other drugs, atleast thats what ive read, except that one time he had special tea which was an accident anyways.
And he was permiscuous, but he wasnt the only one. And he was a rather secluded man, and he was a clubber, but when anyone gets AIDS its sad and shocking.
But other than that, most of the crap on that damn countdown was fillers...
There were only a few truly shocking moments in entertainment, or they should have atleast done more research into other things.

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Posted: 30 Dec 05, 21:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I noticed that too!!!! I was like...you make him seem like he lived in a cage and had no friends!!! i was a bit angry!!! i started crying, whenever they mention his damn death on tv i cant help but cry

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Posted: 30 Dec 05, 23:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

as it began wrote:

jcrawford79 wrote:

as it began wrote:

Freddie probably had issues with loneliness and insecurity, yes, but to say he "filled the void with sex and drugs" is totally ignorant. They are making it sound as if Freddie was another tragedy of rock n roll and that is totally unfair.


You have my apologies. I did not realize that you knew him so intimately. You could probably entertain us queenzoners for hours with all your knowledge of every nuance of Freddie's personality.


And you really can't point fingers at me with yer little sarcastic statement because you "knew him" just as much as I did.

Man.... some people just have bugs up their asses.


Actually, I didn't know him at all. Just enjoy his music.

Bugs up my ass? Hmmm....not quite sure how to respond to that.

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Posted: 30 Dec 05, 23:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

it was electric7 wrote:

I noticed that too!!!! I was like...you make him seem like he lived in a cage and had no friends!!! i was a bit angry!!! i started crying, whenever they mention his damn death on tv i cant help but cry


Yes, me too. When i read MERCURY AND ME and QUEEN THE DEFINITIVE BIO as well, i bawled like a baby. Its not like i didnt know it was coming. But its so hard to accept sometimes. Just as it is when anyone dies. Its still hard to accept ive lost so many people in my own life as well.

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Posted: 31 Dec 05, 00:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

jcrawford79 wrote:

as it began wrote:

jcrawford79 wrote:

as it began wrote:

Freddie probably had issues with loneliness and insecurity, yes, but to say he "filled the void with sex and drugs" is totally ignorant. They are making it sound as if Freddie was another tragedy of rock n roll and that is totally unfair.


You have my apologies. I did not realize that you knew him so intimately. You could probably entertain us queenzoners for hours with all your knowledge of every nuance of Freddie's personality.


And you really can't point fingers at me with yer little sarcastic statement because you "knew him" just as much as I did.

Man.... some people just have bugs up their asses.


Actually, I didn't know him at all.



Exactly my point.

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Posted: 31 Dec 05, 06:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

DreaminQueen wrote:

it was electric7 wrote:

I noticed that too!!!! I was like...you make him seem like he lived in a cage and had no friends!!! i was a bit angry!!! i started crying, whenever they mention his damn death on tv i cant help but cry


Yes, me too. When i read MERCURY AND ME and QUEEN THE DEFINITIVE BIO as well, i bawled like a baby.



Where can you get "Freddie Mercury and me"?????? I wanna read it.


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Posted: 31 Dec 05, 09:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

it is well established fact (amongst any long-standing queen fans) and common knowledge - that freddie was lonely

he openly admitted to feelings of loneliness from the time that queen hit the bigtime until he settled down (which was after he became HIV)

also - Freddie was no saint...don't try to make out he was a one-man-man, he openly admitted to his own promiscuity for years....even going as far to admit that for a handful of years he shagged any bloke he could get hold of...even taking two or three back to his hotel a ta a time

please don't try and paint FM as some misunderstood, saintly icon..when he was about as filthy dirty and drug abusing as they come in rock n roll


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Posted: 31 Dec 05, 13:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hello everyone....I just joined this site after lurking for awhile.

Those VH1 list type shows are usually salacious and often snarky. I haven't caught the one being discussed, but I will keep my eye open for it.
I think Freddie is perceived in different ways depending on the fan. I am older and have had the history of observing the evolution of Freddie and Queen since the 1970's.

Younger fans may not realize that promiscuous sexual behavior was almost a social expectation in cool circles in the 70's. It isn't fair to place a moral judgement on that behavior from the perspective of today. Back in the 70's AIDS was unheard of. Recreational drug use was also commonplace and pretty much an expected lifestyle among rock musicians.....these were days before crack, the Meth epidemics and the culture of Drug Rehab.

Of course, I didn't know Freddie personally. I do know that it is not unusual for very successful people to feel lonely even while surrounded by others. The sadness and feelings of alienation are probably what made Freddie's songs so compelling to us. We could all relate to his words because we could sense his angst and conversely his joy and excitement.

Screw VH1 and their lame countdown. I don't seem to recall VH1 having much interest in Queen or Freddie until his death.