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Posted: 31 Dec 05, 19:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Now that Brian has been honoured by the Queen (in the summer) surely it is also right that Roger & John are also honoured at some point.

Roger has probably done just as much charity work as Brian, like the 46664 and Party in the Palace concerts and all the Mercury Pheonix trust work etc.

It's even more dishartenting when you see what awards other people have got like the England Cricket team all been honoured.

Even Tom Jones is getting knighted for gods sake.

It can't be said that Roger and John have been too scandalous in their lives either, considering who has had honours before.


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Posted: 31 Dec 05, 19:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Roger and John? What did they contribute to the band after all? C´mon... don´t say "Another one Bites The Dust"... "I Want to Break Free" or "Radio Ga Ga"... "I Kind Of Magic"...

Don´t get me wrong... Queen would have never been the band we came to know and to love...

....but anyway... one of them (John) was their bass player.. the other one (Rog) their drummer... no more, no less!!!


..they ALL deserved to get the Honoury more than 15 years ago... not just Dr. Brian May!!!



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Posted: 31 Dec 05, 19:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Bohemian! wrote:

Roger and John? What did they contribute to the band after all? C´mon... don´t say "Another one Bites The Dust"... "I Want to Break Free" or "Radio Ga Ga"... "I Kind Of Magic"...

Don´t get me wrong... Queen would have never been the band we came to know and to love...

....but anyway... one of them (John) was their bass player.. the other one (Rog) their drummer... no more, no less!!!


..they ALL deserved to get the Honoury more than 15 years ago... not just Dr. Brian May!!!


Your post confused me....

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Posted: 31 Dec 05, 20:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sorry... didn´t intend to confuse you! :-)
But what did Brian do to stand above Fred?

...ok, he´s still alive and he´s not gay... but what else?

It was always Freddie Mercury/Brian May (or vice versa) and then came John Deacon and Roger Taylor...;-)


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Posted: 31 Dec 05, 20:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Bohemian! wrote:

Sorry... didn´t intend to confuse you! :-)
But what did Brian do to stand above Fred?

...ok, he´s still alive and he´s not gay... but what else? ;-)


Now I understand what you're saying. Please pardon my ignorance. I've started my New Years Eve Coors Light-athon a little early while waiting on my friends to show up.

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Posted: 31 Dec 05, 20:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Have a Happy New Year!!!
See that´s the difference between you and me... my guests just have left "the arena"! :-)))



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Posted: 01 Jan 06, 09:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Maybe Roger, but not John

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Posted: 01 Jan 06, 10:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Roger had a hell of a lot to do with (more than Brian) settign up the tribute concert and the charity after Freddie death


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Posted: 01 Jan 06, 10:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

BeckyLovesBrianMay+RogerTaylor wrote:

EXACTLY JOHN SHOULD NOT GET HONOURED!!HE IS NOT EVEN IN QUEEN NOW.ROGER SHOULD YES.


And you should shut up and think twice before saying crap like that.

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Posted: 01 Jan 06, 11:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

whoa becky, calm down, and you could try turning the caps key off, makes people's eyes bleed. ;-D

and since Serry got there before me, i'll just agree with him.



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Posted: 01 Jan 06, 11:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

To me the four of them are honoured already. The fans they have all around the world prove they have communicated in a deep manner.
What honour could be better?. I don't think a CBE can be more important, unless the Queen hnouring Queen is more relevant for their egos.
I don't think Rog or John are jealous because of Brian getting honoured. They must be very happy for him.;)


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Posted: 01 Jan 06, 11:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote


To be fair, Brian has had a more successful solo career than the other two and many more people have heard of him. Besides, if they offered John a knighthood, I expect he would decline.


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Posted: 01 Jan 06, 12:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think that Roger should get nominated more than John, i love john but roger just i dont wanna say contibuted more to the band but ah i dont know...hmm i say Roger! hahaha


can you honor a dead person? i think Freddie should be honored, even though hes kinda like...yeah =/

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Posted: 01 Jan 06, 12:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Ive got mixed feelings on this. The rest of the Rolling Stones and thier fans are probably a bit miffed at Jagger getting knighted and the others not being recognised.

I dont think Brian should have recieved his award without the rest of the band, but I really cant see Roger and John being too fussed about getting one. Brian revels in the attention.

It doesnt bother me in the slightest. I think the awards are a bit gay anyway.


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Posted: 01 Jan 06, 13:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Brian_Mays_Wig wrote:

Ive got mixed feelings on this. The rest of the Rolling Stones and thier fans are probably a bit miffed at Jagger getting knighted and the others not being recognised.

I dont think Brian should have recieved his award without the rest of the band, but I really cant see Roger and John being too fussed about getting one. Brian revels in the attention.

It doesnt bother me in the slightest. I think the awards are a bit gay anyway.


What do you mean when you say the awards are gay???


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Posted: 01 Jan 06, 15:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote


I cant believe that Gordon 'F***ing' Ramsey got an honour and not the boys. What is going on in the world.


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Posted: 01 Jan 06, 15:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

scprof wrote:

Now that Brian has been honoured by the Queen (in the summer) surely it is also right that Roger & John are also honoured at some point.

Roger has probably done just as much charity work as Brian, like the 46664 and Party in the Palace concerts and all the Mercury Pheonix trust work etc.

It's even more dishartenting when you see what awards other people have got like the England Cricket team all been honoured.

Even Tom Jones is getting knighted for gods sake.

It can't be said that Roger and John have been too scandalous in their lives either, considering who has had honours before.


Yes But Brian was not given the CBE for charity work, but for music - this is what I thought anyway?

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Posted: 01 Jan 06, 19:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The honours seem to be mainly based on how famous you are, not how deserving / how much you've done for charity etc. It's basically just about recognising people who've made an impact on the public consiousness, which is why people like Gordon Ramsey and Jonothan Ross get them. The cricket team are the current flavour of the month (like the rugby team were for about 5 minutes) so they're getting honours. Brian and Freddie are the only members of Queen well known enough by the general public to get honours. If John or Roger's names were on the list people would just be like "Who??". It's just about making the monarchy look with it and in touch by having them give honours to the most famous and popular celebrities. So it's not a fair system..
But if the system were fairer and based purely on how deserving you are, there must be loads of non-rock stars who've done more for charity than any member of Queen. So what you gonna do?

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Posted: 02 Jan 06, 08:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

... I'm not British, but, AFAIK, such honours are generally awarded as a result of a specific nomination/evaluation procedure, that you can find explained in detail here:

http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/ceremonial/nominations/

and here:

http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/ceremonial/nominations/how_to_nom.asp

Candidates must be nominated by the public first of all, so, if no-one nominates either Roger or John and collects enough letters of support, they will never get awarded any kind of official honour.

Apparently, someone succeeded in nominating Brian (IIRC, a previous attempt failed some 8 years ago)...

FWIW



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Posted: 02 Jan 06, 13:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Why don't we all make a nomination for both Roger and John then.


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