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Posted: 15 Jan 06, 01:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hi.Im wondering, isnt Live Magic the same thing as Live at Wembley 2 disc set? And im also wondering why it was released? thanks

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Posted: 15 Jan 06, 04:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

k thank u. question though, why does it say that its The worst? How is it so bad?



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Posted: 15 Jan 06, 05:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Because it's a compilation of cut live tracks. What's good about it? Nothing.

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Posted: 15 Jan 06, 09:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yeah a lot of tracks were cut. I think only 2 were whole. Its a shame really.


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Posted: 15 Jan 06, 14:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's indeed a worse live album, the most important reason (for me) is that there's almost no 'power', the live at Wembley 'version' has more 'strength'...
The only reason for me to buy it should be the collecting reason...


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Posted: 15 Jan 06, 16:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Okay, I just listened to Live Killers for the first time this afternoon - got the CD for Christmas (along with Freddie's impressive Box Set. YES!!).

Is it just me or is Freddie straining through most of these songs (on Live Killers)?


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Posted: 15 Jan 06, 16:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Why was it released? to make a few quid from the then recent '86 tour. Queen hated live albums its well known Rogers distaste for Live Killers & they were I guess reluctant to release another double live album. Yet it went platinum got to number 3 (uk charts) without any single releases which aint too bad

Heavily edited for me... the only saving grace is the material from Knebworth & the version of 'Bites the Dust (the best recorded live version I've heard from Knebworth) is worth owning it if just for that.. Hindsight is weird everyone pines for the Knebworth show (me included) yet they could have released the whole gig on a 2 cd set back in '86 ah well

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Posted: 15 Jan 06, 17:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The audience's roar at the beginning of One Vision is worth the price of the cd alone. I'm glad I have a soundboard recording of Queen's last show, even if it's very incomplete. In comparison to Wembley, from the point of view of completeness, Live Magic is obviously inferior, but the Knebworth and Budapest performances are far better. Another One Bites The Dust is a killer version, and definitely one of the best.

Also noteworthy is the version of Is This The World We Created from the first night at Wembley. Freddie sings this one with an extra bit of emotion. Really a fantastic version.



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Posted: 15 Jan 06, 17:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

thanks for all your replies. Now i dont know if i should buy it or not

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Posted: 15 Jan 06, 18:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sir GH-was the noise legit or piped in as Q mag had stated?Hope it was real after this whole live killers debacle lol.


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Posted: 16 Jan 06, 04:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i've listened to the Amazon.com samples, and i don't think its THAT bad. Can i ask a question? Where was it edited? During what parts?

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Posted: 16 Jan 06, 04:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

biggest_fan_K wrote:

i've listened to the Amazon.com samples, and i don't think its THAT bad. Can i ask a question? Where was it edited? During what parts?


Middle section in Bo Rhap, intro to I Want To Break Free, etc. etc. etc.

Just compare length of tracks:
Radio GaGa (Wembley): 5:27
Radio GaGa (LM): 4:26

WATC (W): 4:05
WATC (LM): 2:01

ITTWWC (W): 2:59
ITTWWC (LM): 1:30

I can go on this list...

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Posted: 17 Jan 06, 00:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Sir GH-was the noise legit or piped in as Q mag had stated?Hope it was real after this whole live killers debacle lol.


Hahahaha... well, I haven't analyzed Live Magic so deeply, but I haven't noticed any overdubs yet. Just plenty of cuts.



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Posted: 17 Jan 06, 03:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

thanks for the info. Serry, where did you get all that info from? I would like to know more

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Posted: 17 Jan 06, 03:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

biggest_fan_K wrote:

thanks for the info. Serry, where did you get all that info from? I would like to know more


Length of the tracks? From CDs... :)

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Posted: 17 Jan 06, 04:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Oh i see. What a dumbass.. :P (me)

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Posted: 17 Jan 06, 04:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

The audience's roar at the beginning of One Vision is worth the price of the cd alone. I'm glad I have a soundboard recording of Queen's last show, even if it's very incomplete. In comparison to Wembley, from the point of view of completeness, Live Magic is obviously inferior, but the Knebworth and Budapest performances are far better. Another One Bites The Dust is a killer version, and definitely one of the best.

Also noteworthy is the version of Is This The World We Created from the first night at Wembley. Freddie sings this one with an extra bit of emotion. Really a fantastic version.

Agree- some of the stuff from Knebworth (and Budapest) puts second evening at Wembley to shame! Compare Under Pressurefrom Magic Live to the one on Wembley. No comparison, Budapest rocks! AOBTD is another one, I absolutely love the way audience sings BoRhap... Yep, it's good to have at least something from their last, and much better than Wembley, gig.

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Posted: 17 Jan 06, 08:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sound quality on Live Magic is piss poor.


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Posted: 17 Jan 06, 16:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Live Magic is heavily edited because that's the shameful way that live albums were usually released during the mid 80s.

80's live albums didn't try to recreate a live show feeling, it was more like a regular 14-song album but with live versions instead. Most of the time the tracklisting in those albums weren't the same as the ones during the actual show.