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Posted: 15 Jan 06, 19:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well said. I couldn't agree more.


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Posted: 15 Jan 06, 21:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well said couldnt agree more!


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Posted: 15 Jan 06, 22:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Though Freddie fought bravely against the AIDS virus, there are millions who have had cancer and beat it successfully (ex: Melissa Etheridge, ...I would say Joe Armstrong but I don't know if he beat cancer). There are people in horrifying accidents and are told that they'll forever be confined to a wheelchair and do manage to walk again through intensive therapy.

And anyway, Freddie at least had meds to help him somewhat. Most people with AIDS in the early '80's probably didn't have a damn thing. Are they to be overlooked just because they weren't famous rock stars?

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Posted: 15 Jan 06, 22:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font color=darkorange>LilySavage wrote:

We should remember Freddie for...


...falling down the stairs at Hannover...

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Posted: 16 Jan 06, 01:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font color=darkorange>LilySavage wrote:

Being such an amazing fighter against AIDs. He worked till he physically couldn't, and not with flu or something but with a illness that was killing him. We feel sorry for ourselves if we've had a hard day at work but Freddie didn't.If I ever feel sorry for myself I think of Freddie. He was so brave and his death sparked awareness for other people.

He was amazing and we should never forget the pain he went through yet still made us beautiful music.





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Posted: 16 Jan 06, 04:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

quite true, it is certainly what I remember him for. He is quoted that he will keep on singing untill he "fucking well dies", and he did, so this proves he is also a man of his word. When I become rich and famous *wishful thinking* I will donate HEAPS of money to the mercury phoenix trust...


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Posted: 16 Jan 06, 05:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I thought he stopped taking his medicines?


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Posted: 16 Jan 06, 06:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes, he had and fought against AIDS, but what he truly SHOULD be remembered for is the awesome voice he had, and sang with for nearly 20 years, the songs, the performances, and the charisma. THAT my friends, is what Freddie should be remembered for. That IS what he lived for...though he fought against AIDS, he shouldn't be remembered for that. That's kind of a tacky way to look at it, but it's just my opinion?? I don't think that's the way he would care to be remembered...but again, that's just my view on it


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Posted: 16 Jan 06, 08:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"Yes, he had and fought against AIDS, but what he truly SHOULD be remembered for is the awesome voice he had"

Can't say I agree with you here. He wasn't born with his amazing ability to sing, he got that through perseverance and not-giving-up. Which is a quality that he displayed in working even while in big-time pain from the AIDS.

It all depends on how you want to remember a person, and if you're willing to confront some unpleasant things while remembering them. If you're more comfortable not thinking about that part of his life, then I suppose that's fair. But it's not really right to discount it, some of his best music was made while he was dying from AIDS, he must've suffered a lot. Can't just... *not remember* him that way, when that's what he became later on.


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Posted: 16 Jan 06, 12:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote


Absolutely. Well put. Although the stairs thing is not one of my favourite Freddie moments, Smitty.


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Posted: 16 Jan 06, 13:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Zander05 wrote:

Though Freddie fought bravely against the AIDS virus, there are millions who have had cancer and beat it successfully (ex: Melissa Etheridge, ...I would say Joe Armstrong but I don't know if he beat cancer). There are people in horrifying accidents and are told that they'll forever be confined to a wheelchair and do manage to walk again through intensive therapy.

And anyway, Freddie at least had meds to help him somewhat. Most people with AIDS in the early '80's probably didn't have a damn thing. Are they to be overlooked just because they weren't famous rock stars?


They didn't dedicate the rest of their life singing and performing in music videos. Freddie did it even though the money he got, he knew he wouldn't have fun spending it as he was to die, and he knew he was going to die. But he lived for music and fans, and did so until he died. If he didn't live for the fans, there wouldn't be videos from '89 or '91... just audio, for himself.


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Posted: 16 Jan 06, 14:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

yeah, coach calls us tough but he spat in the face of a terminal illness


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Posted: 16 Jan 06, 14:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think it was amazing how hard he worked on those videos and the music before he died. He was amazing for many reasons. This is just another thing I admire him for.


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Posted: 16 Jan 06, 15:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well said...


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Posted: 16 Jan 06, 17:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Zander05 wrote:

Though Freddie fought bravely against the AIDS virus, there are millions who have had cancer and beat it successfully (ex: Melissa Etheridge, ...I would say Joe Armstrong but I don't know if he beat cancer). There are people in horrifying accidents and are told that they'll forever be confined to a wheelchair and do manage to walk again through intensive therapy.

And anyway, Freddie at least had meds to help him somewhat. Most people with AIDS in the early '80's probably didn't have a damn thing. Are they to be overlooked just because they weren't famous rock stars?


I agree.
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Posted: 16 Jan 06, 18:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Zander05 wrote:

Though Freddie fought bravely against the AIDS virus, there are millions who have had cancer and beat it successfully (ex: Melissa Etheridge, ...I would say Joe Armstrong but I don't know if he beat cancer). There are people in horrifying accidents and are told that they'll forever be confined to a wheelchair and do manage to walk again through intensive therapy.

And anyway, Freddie at least had meds to help him somewhat. Most people with AIDS in the early '80's probably didn't have a damn thing. Are they to be overlooked just because they weren't famous rock stars?


I agree.
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There was no question Freddie was going to die. Rather than roll over and allow it to happen, he continued to live his life. "better to burn out than fade away" That's what we admire about him.

Does that mean, as you asked, if others are to be overlooked because they weren't famous rock stars? Absolutely not. But don't you see? For us, for the people who loved Freddie, the other victims now have a face - Freddie's face. He helped give that disgusting disease a spot at the dinner table. People started talking about it, learning about it. Not everyone, but more than before.

It's still taboo in many homes, but mention Freddie Mercury and people remember that he died of Aids years ago AND that science has STILL not found a cure - which means others are still suffering the way Freddie suffered. Some will even donate in memory of Freddie - that's what I do. And honestly, if not for him, I might not donate at all - I usually only donate to animal related charities.

So, because we 'knew' him, Freddie's fight made a difference. That's why we (I) remember, respect, and love Freddie Mercury.



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Posted: 17 Jan 06, 06:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Zander05 wrote:

Though Freddie fought bravely against the AIDS virus, there are millions who have had cancer and beat it successfully (ex: Melissa Etheridge, ...I would say Joe Armstrong but I don't know if he beat cancer). There are people in horrifying accidents and are told that they'll forever be confined to a wheelchair and do manage to walk again through intensive therapy.

And anyway, Freddie at least had meds to help him somewhat. Most people with AIDS in the early '80's probably didn't have a damn thing. Are they to be overlooked just because they weren't famous rock stars?


Your attitude bites. Because, instead of using Freddie's predicament to ignore the horrible luck of many other people, you're holding up their example in an attempt to extinguish the significance of his problems. Is it not enough to just say that both parties suffered terribly, rather than do the fashionable thing and say 'hah, rock stars don't suffer, they have their fortunes'.


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Posted: 17 Jan 06, 23:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Zebonka12 wrote:

Zander05 wrote:

Though Freddie fought bravely against the AIDS virus, there are millions who have had cancer and beat it successfully (ex: Melissa Etheridge, ...I would say Joe Armstrong but I don't know if he beat cancer). There are people in horrifying accidents and are told that they'll forever be confined to a wheelchair and do manage to walk again through intensive therapy.

And anyway, Freddie at least had meds to help him somewhat. Most people with AIDS in the early '80's probably didn't have a damn thing. Are they to be overlooked just because they weren't famous rock stars?


Your attitude bites. Because, instead of using Freddie's predicament to ignore the horrible luck of many other people, you're holding up their example in an attempt to extinguish the significance of his problems. Is it not enough to just say that both parties suffered terribly, rather than do the fashionable thing and say 'hah, rock stars don't suffer, they have their fortunes'.


He isn't trying to say that Freddie didn't suffer. He is merely trying to point out the other side that is often overlooked. Freddie DID suffer, and it was horrible. He should still be alive, but you have to understand as well...
...when stuff happens to the famous (any famous person for that matter), then the issue is brought up more prominently, as opposed to everyday people who suffer just as much. You can't bash him for "bashing" the subject; He's just playing devils advocate, and just expressing his opinion.
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