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Posted: 16 Jan 06, 12:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote


Did I mention I got drums for Christmas? No? Well, I did. And I was wondering, they don't have drum parts in the Queen music books, do they?
So does anyone know a site where I can either get the parts or buy a book with parts in?
Thanks in advance.


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Posted: 16 Jan 06, 13:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

As Roger always said, drum music is pointless (well, don't quote that, but you know what I mean).

I personally cannot stand drum tabs, and most beats are easy to work out anyways. Just listen to the songs and remember the fills, and watch performances of the songs too. The more you watch, the more different techinques you'll pick up.

Sounds a bit rubbish, but it helps a lot.

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I think www.mxtabs.net has "shut down" now, but www.guitartabs.cc still has some drum tabs I think.


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Posted: 16 Jan 06, 14:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Great King Sam wrote:

As Roger always said, drum music is pointless (well, don't quote that, but you know what I mean).

I personally cannot stand drum tabs, and most beats are easy to work out anyways. Just listen to the songs and remember the fills, and watch performances of the songs too. The more you watch, the more different techinques you'll pick up.

Sounds a bit rubbish, but it helps a lot.

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I think www.mxtabs.net has "shut down" now, but www.guitartabs.cc still has some drum tabs I think.


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Posted: 16 Jan 06, 14:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I tend to just listen to the song, play in the smae rythem and make up my own fills!! Because drum tabs are far too confusing and anoying if your dashing about the kit!!


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Posted: 16 Jan 06, 14:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i dont read drum tabs that much songs are basic and easy to play on the drums, just listen to a song and you'll get the jist


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Posted: 16 Jan 06, 16:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i don't even play drums (but i want to) but i reckon i could blunder my way through the ones i watch regularly. I tried picking out drum tabs that are in my keyboard book (keyboard percussion for the exams) and they were just annoying.


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Posted: 16 Jan 06, 16:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well said Sam.

Roger's playing was not that technical where you need to read tabs.
Drum parts from the likes of Neil Peart (sorry guys about the Rush cliche) may warrant drum tabs.

Modern Drummer magazine releases great tabs. However, most of the artists from that magazine are studio freelance drummers, and they're drum notation is wicked.....very hard to read!


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Posted: 16 Jan 06, 18:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You have to WATCH Roger! To learn the little tricks and specials he does. He is really unique.


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Posted: 16 Jan 06, 20:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

http://queen.musichall.cz/index_en.php?s=ak

This site's got some, but not much.


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Posted: 17 Jan 06, 01:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

hi im a drummer and also a huge roger fan. the best thing for me i found was to listen to the songs a couple of times over like was said in a previous post "Air Drum" to it. then with the rythym to it get behind ur kit n play away also if u want if u have discman / mp3, use ur earphones turn it up n play to that, n yeh watchin concert performances on dvds helps too particually when i started out playin queen songs the first one i learnt was one vision, so i used the multi angle on wembley. is very helpful.

as for me i dont find tabs all that helpful (to confusing) so i just teach my self.

hope this helps or have i just been rambling.


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Posted: 17 Jan 06, 05:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think there are a few books on the market that do include the drum tabs, however there is no substitute for good ears.

Listen and watch everything you can, Rogers playing style is harder than you might think, people often think it's easy until you record yourself, then listen back, bet it's not the same, he has some very subtle but important elements to his playing, not least slightly openning the hihat on each snare beat.

He has a natural rhythum that is very hard to copy if youare trying to be really accurate.


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Posted: 17 Jan 06, 06:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Togg wrote:

Listen and watch everything you can, Rogers playing style is harder than you might think, people often think it's easy until you record yourself, then listen back, bet it's not the same, he has some very subtle but important elements to his playing, not least slightly openning the hihat on each snare beat.


I tell you what, I'm glad you said that. Opening the hi-hat so lsightly on every snare hit is something I struggle to do. You know when you're rubbish at it becuase you concentrate so much on it that you forget to do other things.

I remember an interview with Taylor Hawkins of the Foo's, when in it he states about - once more - his love for Queen and Rog, and he talks about his hi-hat technique, and how it is something even he finds hard to do. Given Taylor is currently one of the best drummers around (or even the best, as per Dave Grohl's suggestion) - it says something about Roger's rhytmic capabilities and overall talent I spose. Very underrated. Which is a blessing and also a shame at the same time.


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Posted: 17 Jan 06, 07:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

tell me more about peculiarities of roger..i am very curious..i try to copy his style by watching his drumming..i find it rather helpful..but of course it's realy superficial..realy superficial..

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Posted: 17 Jan 06, 08:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Watch how he holds the sticks, that changes how you play, he also is great at adding things like cow bells, the early work in the studio and live demonstrate some rather nice little patterns on the cowbells.

Above all his timing is fantastic, it's difficult to explain but the songs just swing in a way that they wouldn't if say Neil Peart played them. Sure they would be more complicated and in time, but they just wouldn't have that egde that Roger puts into them.

Think about even simple songs like crazy little thing, it has such a great feel, it just moves so well yet he keeps it simple.

Very hard to copy in truth, you either have it or you don't.


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Posted: 17 Jan 06, 08:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Why is it superficial? It's no different from having a drum teacher - they'll teach you how to play drums the way they know, as will the next, and the next... you'll pick up certain things from them, the same way you might pick up certain things from watching Rog.

Anyways, he does many things. For example, as we've already said, he opens his hi-hat slightly everytime he strikes the snare, or simple things like the way he rolls the drum stick back into his hand when he strikes a cymbal or opens and closes the hi-hat... different things. You just have to watch the way he plays.


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Posted: 17 Jan 06, 08:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote


Yeah, I've watched Roger playing on my DVDs but it's difficult sometimes because the 'Queen Cam' on Wembley is only on a few songs. And, also, I'm just starting out so it's quite hard to hear what everything is. But I am getting the hang of it, just slowly.


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Posted: 17 Jan 06, 08:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote


Also my hi-hat is fucked.


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Posted: 17 Jan 06, 08:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Great King Sam>> well i see your point..it is rather true..i am actually glad that someone thinks like me..

togg>> isn't the kit in your profile from 1981??


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Posted: 17 Jan 06, 09:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

icefire wrote:

Great King Sam>> well i see your point..it is rather true..i am actually glad that someone thinks like me..

togg>> isn't the kit in your profile from 1981??


I saw that kit in December 1980 at Wembley, so I guess it had only recently arrived as before he was playing the same kit just in black (on the crazy tour)


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Posted: 17 Jan 06, 12:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Togg wrote:

Watch how he holds the sticks, that changes how you play


It sounds silly, and maybe you do it yourself, but whenever I play Queen songs, be it with friends or just playing along to a CD, I tend to hold the sticks with my index fingers running down the length etc like Rog, and it just seems to suit the beat. Everything feel sthat touch more comfortable.


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