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Posted: 28 Jan 06, 06:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

hey there I recently recorded a Breakthru cover. I hope you might like it. But I'd rather warn you…my version is very personal so some people might not like it.

here's the link : http://zedan.free.fr/breakthrubyzedan.mp3
let me know your thoughts

For the musicians boarders : there might be some mistakes, wrong notes whatever… I don't care, as long as I have a blast playing and recording… anyway thank you for listenning :)

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Posted: 28 Jan 06, 08:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You must love your guitar a wee bit much since that was hugely in my face while listening the whole time. The drums only way to breakthru (pun intended) was by the hi-hats and snare.

The big problem is that your guitar is very bass heavy and above all else in the track which makes it hard to hear anything else there.

I won't say anything on the arrangement apart from, not my cup of tea.

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Posted: 28 Jan 06, 09:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks for your comment. I'll be very honest with you, I have only one month practicing on recording software. I'm totally aware about the mixing mistakes to fix on that track. I'm not looking for excuses here I can only improve myself on recording techniques in months to come… 

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Posted: 28 Jan 06, 10:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote


Well in my opinion this is just really awesome! Since I record this type of stuff myself as well I do want to give you some advice:

Try (in the verses) to lower the sound of the guitar, secondly the solo parts (and harmonies) are too loud. So you need to adjust that as well.

So re-produce your song (if possible) and I really hope you will upload the improved version. So only try to adjust the volume ...

I will be looking forward to hearing your new improved version soon

Stefan

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Posted: 28 Jan 06, 13:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Not strictly speaking a 'fan mix', but I like it! I agree with what has already been said about the levels, particularly the harmony guitar parts, which are too high in the mix, and the snare could be brighter too. I'm not over keen on the blast beats, but I like the double bass drums on certain bits. Can I ask, why did you decide on the slower tempo? I'm not saying it's bad, just that it doesn't sound quite right.

I would quite like to add some drum samples to some of my mixes - can I ask what software you are using?


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Posted: 28 Jan 06, 13:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Lord, I use Logic Express for my recordings.
here's a pic of my home studio to this link :
http://zedan.free.fr/chez_wam_studio.JPG My amp is missing on the pic… didn't have it at the time I shot that pic.

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Posted: 28 Jan 06, 17:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Zedan,

Will you upload an improved version of the song with the guitar levels adjusted?

Stefan

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Posted: 28 Jan 06, 17:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

KICKASS.
And it fits my vocal range perfectly, too.
Thanks for the singalong opportunity.


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Posted: 28 Jan 06, 17:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes TRS… I definitely think about it. I might start rearrange this in a couple of days.

Suigi… why don't you send me an mp3 of your vocals I could include it to my version and see if it fits or not ?



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Posted: 29 Jan 06, 05:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I both do and don't like this version.
The original is too 80's for my liking, I feel it could've been rockier. But your version takes it a *little* too far in another direction I don't like.

Having said that, nicely done for what it is. Bravo :D


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Posted: 29 Jan 06, 05:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Zebonka … one of my main inspiration behind was a guy named Devin Townsend who kinda mixes progressive music and extreme metal.

Anyway I did some arrangements on the guitar levels
and uploaded the new version at the same link upper in the page.

Let me know if it's ok for you. I feel a little something missing though… but I think I'm coming close from something ok

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Posted: 29 Jan 06, 08:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

If I am correct you have now replaced your "new" version with adjusted audio levels? Since it does sound better...

Still the solo guitar (and solo guitar harmonies) are still too loud... Can you adjust that as well?

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Posted: 29 Jan 06, 14:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

zedan wrote:

Yes TRS… I definitely think about it. I might start rearrange this in a couple of days.

Suigi… why don't you send me an mp3 of your vocals I could include it to my version and see if it fits or not ?



I'll see what I can do.
Just gotta make sure nobody else is around :P


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Posted: 29 Jan 06, 16:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

ok Following your comments… I've just uploaded the last version. Hoping this time's ok for you

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Posted: 29 Jan 06, 17:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Lord Fickle wrote: Can I ask, why did you decide on the slower tempo? I'm not saying it's bad, just that it doesn't sound quite right.



Well actually, I kinda like to break the tempo in two. In the case of Breakthru, I had this idea in mind to slow down the tempo and then make it much more heavy.

Had this in mind for quite a while I must say.
The original version is based on the bass line, and I thought it would be interesting to add much more guitar sticking to the keyboards… 

So I've decided to go that way and I'm pretty satisfied with it.
I'm aware it doesn't sound quite right like you say… but there are two points which I'm faithful to :
1. You can't please everybody whichever the way you cover a song (and this go on for every other song you'll cover)
2. Is there any real interest to cover a song to be the same as the original ? Personally I don't think so. But it's a matter of taste and of point of view.

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Posted: 29 Jan 06, 22:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"Zebonka … one of my main inspiration behind was a guy named Devin Townsend who kinda mixes progressive music and extreme metal.

Anyway I did some arrangements on the guitar levels
and uploaded the new version at the same link upper in the page.

Let me know if it's ok for you. I feel a little something missing though… but I think I'm coming close from something ok"

No problem, as I said - it's good, just not my style. Still interested to hear more! :D


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Posted: 30 Jan 06, 03:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Zebonka12 wrote: Still interested to hear more! :D



There is much more to come don't worry :)

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Posted: 30 Jan 06, 11:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Zedan,

Did you now also adjust the solo guitar and harmonie solo's ? I wasnt quite sure reading your post if you have made a re-newed version

If yes, please confirm here and which link to use

Stefan

PS Zedan, can you comment on the songs I have recently uploaded in the Fanmix forum (the "keep smiling" thread and the "F*cking fab version" ...
I'd like to hear your comments as well

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Posted: 30 Jan 06, 18:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes I did Stefan… At first lead and harmonies guitars were low in the mix in my opinion… so I just raised these a little bit upper in the mix to give more relief… I think now it works ok.

by the way post my thoughts where you asked me too

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Posted: 30 Jan 06, 18:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Zedan,

THIS ROCKS!!! ... really, get somebody to sing to your version ... in my opinion i love the right-left
panning in the channels at the beginning ... the guitar is now adjusted and also the solo and harmonies.... (and I love the part at 1:27 min! that just way rocks!) ... do try to improve the part at 3:48 (the bass guitar bit), it has to be put more up-front or heavier ; the bass guitar I mean!)

dude (if I may call you so haha), you did a great job, and I hope you appriciated our input ...

I have to say the change in volume has made your version really different in the best way possible!

Stefan

PS without kidding: this is one of the most original "fan versions" I have ever heard. I love the heavy guitars, the "organ", the drums, the harmonies and the key change at 3:16 is just awesome

PS2 Would I challenge you to make another "zedan version" of another Queen song? I would love to hear it