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Posted: 15 Feb 06, 12:21 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I have been lurking on this website for a long time now, and have read many many interesting posts, and am therefore asking the more knowledgable members for help. Before you shout at me for being lazy, I have already read through mr J Stuarts ultimate colection lists (and was amazed at the detail), but if I am honest they are just way too much to take in! Therefore what I am asking is, quite simply, is there a complete list of all of the known demos/outtakes (and the rumoured ones if possible!) out there, or could one of the more experienced members help compile one please?


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Posted: 15 Feb 06, 13:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I grabbed this from QOL, as compiled by PTRACER. Some of it may not be 100% correct:

PRE-QUEEN DEMOS

1984 Guitar/vocals by Brian May, vocals by Tim Staffell - 1964-1968. All tracks below were recorded at Thames Television studios in early 1967.)
- Hold On! I'm Coming (originally by Sam & Dave)
- Knock On Wood (originally by Otis Redding)
- N.S.U. (originally by Cream)
- How Can It Be (originally by The Birds)
- Step On Me (Take 1) by 1984
- Step On Me (Take 2) by 1984
- Purple Haze (originally by Jimi Hendrix)
- Our Love Is Driftin' (originally by the Paul Butterfield Blues Band)
- Remember (originally by Jimi Hendrix)
- Sweet Wine (originally by Cream)

Left Handed Marriage (Guitar/backing vocals by Brian May - 1967)
- I Need Time
- Appointment
- She Was Once My Friend

Smile (Guitar/vocals/backing vocals by Brian May --- Drums/vocals/backing vocals by Roger Taylor ---> 1968-1970.)
- Doin' All Right
- Blag
- April Lady
- Polar Bear
- Earth
- Step On Me

IBEX (Freddie Mercury on vocals. Tracks below are from a live concert at the Liverpool Sink Club on the 9th September 1969. They were recorded on a reel-to-reel tape recorder.)
- Communication Breakdown (originally by Led Zeppelin)
- Rain (originally by The Beatles)
- We're Going Wrong (originally by Cream)
- Rock Me Baby (originally by Jimi Hendrix)
- Stone Free (originally by Jimi Hendrix)
- Jailhouse Rock (originally by Elvis Presley)
- Crossroads (originally by Cream)
- Vagabond Outcast by IBEX
- We're going home (originally by Ten Years After, arrangement by Ibex)

Wreckage (Freddie Mercury on vocals. The demo tracks below were recorded in a flat/appartment in Barnes, London. ---> 1969. Each version is actually different fragments of the song recorded seperately over a period of ten minutes. Each version features different fragments edited together, but they are essentially the same recording.) (Thanks to JSS for some of the info)
- Green (Version 1)
- Green (Version 2)
- Green (Version 3)
- Green (Version 4)

Larry Lurex (Freddie Mercury on vocals, Brian May on guitar, Roger Taylor on drums ---> 1972.)
- I Can Hear Music (originally by The Beach Boys)
- Goin' Back (originally by Carole King)


QUEEN DEMOS

1971 De Lane Lea Demos
- Keep Yourself Alive (Demo)
- The Night Comes Down (Demo)
- Great King Rat (Demo)
- Jesus (Demo)
- Liar (Demo)

Unknown Recording Session - 1971, 1972 or 1973
- Polar Bear (Unreleased song - cover of Polar Bear by Smile - Brian and Roger's pre-Queen band)

BBC Sessions #2 - 25th July 1973
- Keep Yourself Alive
- Liar
- See What A Fool I've Been ('Serious' version with alternate lyrics)
- Son And Daughter

Queen II
- Procession (Demo - different to the album version. Played over the speakers at the Golders Green concert in 1973)

BBC Sessions #4 - 3rd April 1974
- Modern Times Rock n' Roll
- Nevermore
- White Queen (As It Began) (featuring Freddie Mercury on piano)
- March Of The Black Queen (Album version that fades out at the intro of Funny How Love Is

BBC Sessions #5 - 16th October 1974
- Now I'm Here
- Stone Cold Crazy
- Flick Of The Wrist
- Tenement Funster

A Day At The Races*
- Woe (rumored to exist, but probably doesn't)

News Of The World
- Feelings (Unreleased song)
- Silver Salmon (Unreleased song) (Lester's note: I was always under the impression that 'Silver Salmon' was recorded during the first album's sessions...)
- Batteries Not Included (either John Deacon or Brian May song)*

BBC Session #6 - 28th October 1977
- Spread Your Wings (Heavy rock version)
- It's Late (featuring electronic/synthesised section, similar to Get Down Make Love)
- My Melancholy Blues (featuring Brian May on guitar)
- We Will Rock You (Slow/Fast Version)

Jazz*
- Coming Soon (early version)
- parts of Roger's 'Fun In Space' album

The Game*
- Lost Opportunity (rumor has it this song

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Posted: 15 Feb 06, 15:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Great post Lester. Really appreciate taking the time out to write all of that.

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Posted: 15 Feb 06, 16:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Wasn't beautiful day recorded during the game sessions?


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Posted: 15 Feb 06, 16:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

nibznik wrote:

Wasn't beautiful day recorded during the game sessions?


Yes it was.

And Sandbox, Sister (demo of Sail Away Sweet Sister) and Dragon Attack demo, which is untitled.


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Posted: 15 Feb 06, 19:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sandbox was just a working title for Coming Soon.

I've always been of the opinion that Woe was just a working title for The Millionaire Waltz. I seem to remember reading an interview with Freddie, where he talks about working on the song Woe for the forthcoming ADATR album, and the description he gives of it seems to perfectly match The Millionaire Waltz.

And Lester: I take it you missed the excellent thread in the Sharing The Music: Announce section all about the orgin of the Silver Salmon recording. There's a school of thought, with compelling evidence, that insists it can only be from the NOTW sessions. Dig out the thread. It's a great read.


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Posted: 15 Feb 06, 19:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Here's the thread in question, for your perusal:

http://www.queenzone.com/queen/forum/topic_view.asp?Q_FORUM_ID=4&Q_FORUM_NAME=Sharing+The+Music+%2D+Announce&Q_FORUM_TOPIC_ID=673906&TOPIC_SUBJECT=Polar+Bear+%2D+Take+2


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Posted: 15 Feb 06, 20:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I vaguely recall the discussion when it first happened, and how it was deduced that the song didn't possess the same drum "quality" as the first album; listening to the song again, it's pretty clear how true that is. Though something that I don't think has been addressed was who wrote it; if it is indeed from the NOTW sessions and it was written by Tim Staffell as originally thought, why would they wait until 1977 to have recorded it? Perhaps that's within the thread you presented to me, so I'll give that a read-through and see if my question is answered. Thanks for the link; I love reading intelligent discussion!

Anyway. I was under the impression that 'Sandbox' was largely a jam and not a working title for 'Coming Soon', but 'Coming Soon' was also completely different in 1978 than its 1979 released version. Very interesting.

And I hate to ask about this, because I feel like a newbie, but wasn't a song called 'Brother Of Mine' recorded at some point? Or is this another one of Niek's and Pim's jokes, like 'Two Worlds Apart'? If it's as real as Man In The Shadows, then disregard.

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Posted: 15 Feb 06, 21:43 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I have heard Sandbox (from the annual convention auditions)and it's a jam, not an early version of Coming Soon.

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Posted: 16 Feb 06, 03:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thankyou

Very informative list!
I appreciate your help thankyou!

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Posted: 16 Feb 06, 05:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Nice overview, but of course very far from complete...



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Posted: 16 Feb 06, 06:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

there is quit a bit more indeed Jeroen! Thanks for sharing them! When will you be here again? It is good then, that there are still a LOT of surprises for most of the people out there in the anthology box-set that will see the light of day in 2009....the fun would be gone if all was available at this point....on theconvention you'll be hearing some amazing new stuff i guess....wich will extend the list as written here....you can also have a little look on Ferdy's www.queenmuseum.com and search for the demo-section....a very nice site anyway...ooh yes....and all you folks out there : www.robbyvalentine.com is in the air !!!!


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Posted: 16 Feb 06, 07:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

bas asselbergs wrote:

When will you be here again?


In a week or two?!
Put the booze on cold already ;-)))

By the way: did you see the Peter Straker bootleg??? Awesome!

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Posted: 16 Feb 06, 08:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

jeroen wrote:

Nice overview, but of course very far from complete...



As I said, and I see that people didn't notice, I didn't write the list - it was compiled by someone from QueenOnline. I only copied and pasted and added certain things I could remember from memory.

So, why not add your own thoughts to make it closer to complete?

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Posted: 16 Feb 06, 08:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

butterfly (from a kind of magic), silver salmon
(queen l i think)and maybe assasin´(early version of innuendo).i´m not sure of that.


the logical one is good to think, but it does not to live
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Posted: 16 Feb 06, 08:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

and hangman, but this song was played only in the first concerts.


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Posted: 16 Feb 06, 08:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Lester Burnham wrote:

jeroen wrote:

Nice overview, but of course very far from complete...



As I said, and I see that people didn't notice, I didn't write the list - it was compiled by someone from QueenOnline. I only copied and pasted and added certain things I could remember from memory.

So, why not add your own thoughts to make it closer to complete?

No offence to you at all, Lester! :-)
John S's lists are far from complete as well...

My problem is the guy requesting this...
The guy requesting this 'complete' list did not deserve your work. What does he want us to do? Take John S's ultimate collection, delete everything except for the song-titles??

Only because he is too lazy to read?

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Posted: 16 Feb 06, 08:58 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

By the way:

Lester Burnham wrote:

PRE-QUEEN DEMOS

1984 Guitar/vocals by Brian May, vocals by Tim Staffell - 1964-1968. All tracks below were recorded at Thames Television studios in early 1967.)
- Hold On! I'm Coming (originally by Sam & Dave)
- Knock On Wood (originally by Otis Redding)
- N.S.U. (originally by Cream)
- How Can It Be (originally by The Birds)
- Step On Me (Take 1) by 1984
- Step On Me (Take 2) by 1984
- Purple Haze (originally by Jimi Hendrix)
- Our Love Is Driftin' (originally by the Paul Butterfield Blues Band)
- Remember (originally by Jimi Hendrix)
- Sweet Wine (originally by Cream)


Smile (Guitar/vocals/backing vocals by Brian May --- Drums/vocals/backing vocals by Roger Taylor ---> 1968-1970.)
- Doin' All Right
- Blag
- April Lady
- Polar Bear
- Earth
- Step On Me

IBEX (Freddie Mercury on vocals. Tracks below are from a live concert at the Liverpool Sink Club on the 9th September 1969. They were recorded on a reel-to-reel tape recorder.)
- Communication Breakdown (originally by Led Zeppelin)
- Rain (originally by The Beatles)
- We're Going Wrong (originally by Cream)
- Rock Me Baby (originally by Jimi Hendrix)
- Stone Free (originally by Jimi Hendrix)
- Jailhouse Rock (originally by Elvis Presley)
- Crossroads (originally by Cream)
- Vagabond Outcast by IBEX
- We're going home (originally by Ten Years After, arrangement by Ibex)



Larry Lurex (Freddie Mercury on vocals, Brian May on guitar, Roger Taylor on drums ---> 1972.)
- I Can Hear Music (originally by The Beach Boys)
- Goin' Back (originally by Carole King)

BBC Sessions #2 - 25th July 1973
- Keep Yourself Alive
- Liar
- See What A Fool I've Been ('Serious' version with alternate lyrics)
- Son And Daughter

BBC Sessions #4 - 3rd April 1974
- Modern Times Rock n' Roll
- Nevermore
- White Queen (As It Began) (featuring Freddie Mercury on piano)
- March Of The Black Queen (Album version that fades out at the intro of Funny How Love Is

BBC Sessions #5 - 16th October 1974
- Now I'm Here
- Stone Cold Crazy
- Flick Of The Wrist
- Tenement Funster


BBC Session #6 - 28th October 1977
- Spread Your Wings (Heavy rock version)
- It's Late (featuring electronic/synthesised section, similar to Get Down Make Love)
- My Melancholy Blues (featuring Brian May on guitar)
- We Will Rock You (Slow/Fast Version)


A Kind Of Magic
- A Kind Of Magic (Highlander Version - Extended, and in the correct pitch. Found on the 2nd disc of Queen - Live At Wembley Stadium.)

!

None of these are demo's!
Damn QOL! ;-)

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Posted: 16 Feb 06, 09:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

jeroen wrote:


No offence to you at all, Lester! :-)
John S's lists are far from complete as well...

My problem is the guy requesting this...
The guy requesting this 'complete' list did not deserve your work. What does he want us to do? Take John S's ultimate collection, delete everything except for the song-titles??

Only because he is too lazy to read?


Hmm, that is a good point. Sorry if my tone indicated that I was offended; but the idea that that list was far from complete is very intriguing to me, and I would love to know what else is out there.

And as for QOL, well, we can't expect them to be right all the time, can we? ;)

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Posted: 16 Feb 06, 09:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote