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The Flash Danny Project
Bohemian: 166 posts
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BM has gone on record stating that if it wasn't for HS, MJ would never have made Thriller. I find this interesting as nothing I've read on Thriller from MJ's point of view has actually backed up BM's claims. Even the Special Edition of Thriller fails to mention anything of HS or Queen as an influence. Furthermore, I can't really hear any parallel between the two albums(though I'm interested to know if anyone else can). As much as I love Hot Space, it's four white Englishmen and a German havin' a dabble at early 80s funk. And that's where it gets confusing: Thriller is the real deal, real funk and disco made by a black musician (well, at the time he was) and a black producer. Seems like a case of reverse engineering to me!
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TheImpossibleMan
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Seeing as Hot Space only came out a few months before Thriller, and bombed terribly, I'd have a hard time it strongly influenced Thriller. By all accounts, Jackson had more influence on Queen, recommending Another One Bites the Dust be released as a single, and, because they worked together, getting Freddie more interested in funk and disco.
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Adam Baboolal
Deity: 4991 posts
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There was a discussion about this last year, I think. Check the search for it. EDIT: Got it here - http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=425028 Peace, Adam.
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mike hunt
Deity: 2928 posts
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Brian may is full of shit.
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Adam Baboolal
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Dancer, Dancer
Champion: 88 posts
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I think thriller sounds a bit like staying power
"they said they'd rock us, and they did"
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Seven_Seas_Of_Rhye II
Bohemian: 709 posts
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The truth is that Queen were never so popular in States. It never could happen with HS!!! Funk took EVERY musician's mind at that time! Many many bands influenced that time by funk. Staying Power - it's funky, Thriller is funky. Of course Staying Power sounds like Thriller and vise versa. It's like Brit Pop who rules the nowdays rock'n'roll. The most part of nowdays rock music is Brit-Popy.
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Sebastian
Deity: 6539 posts
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The new book has Brian, yet again, claiming 'Hot Space' was the inspiration for 'Thriller,' even though it's utter non-sense.
John hated Hot Space. Fred's favourite singer was not Paul Rodgers. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' Witness testimonies are often inaccurate. Wales is not in England. 'Bo Rhap' hasn't got 180 voices.
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AMusicalProstitute
Be Gentle, I'm a newbie: 5 posts
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I'm starting to believe Brian May is a gigantic liar.
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jozef
Champion: 73 posts
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There in the new May's book are other follies too ...
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Sebastian
Deity: 6539 posts
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AMusicalProstitute wrote:
I'm starting to believe Brian May is a gigantic liar. TBF, most of what he says is true or right... but not this. jozef wrote:
There in the new May's book are other follies too ... Care to elaborate?
John hated Hot Space. Fred's favourite singer was not Paul Rodgers. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' Witness testimonies are often inaccurate. Wales is not in England. 'Bo Rhap' hasn't got 180 voices.
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thomasquinn 32989
Deity: 6347 posts
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I don't think BM is "a gigantic liar", but he has a tendency to, shall we say take a rather revisionist approach to history, which just happens to emphasize his importance and that of his and his band's work.
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jozef
Champion: 73 posts
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For example .... on page # 134 above: "These pictures are of the Jazz tour of the USA in 1978. Note the News Of The World robot face on Roger' s bass drum, never used in Europe."
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mike hunt
Deity: 2928 posts
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Who Cares at this point, I could see Jackson being influenced by The Game more than Hot Space. Stuff like AOBTD and Dragon Attack, mixing funk with rock. It could be the reason why he hired Eddie Van Halen for the Beat it guitar solo. It Has that Dragon Attack feel. Not that I care, I'm personally not a fan of Jackson. Biggest selling artist of all time or not.
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mike hunt
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Panchgani
St Peter's Burnt Piano
Deity: 6497 posts
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Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger Badger l luv Brian's perm ... ;p
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Sebastian
Deity: 6539 posts
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Bob gave me a great idea for a meme, which I now unashamedly plagiarised and tweaked. I wonder if there's a way to make a stereo version of it...
John hated Hot Space. Fred's favourite singer was not Paul Rodgers. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' Witness testimonies are often inaccurate. Wales is not in England. 'Bo Rhap' hasn't got 180 voices.
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thomasquinn 32989
Deity: 6347 posts
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Sebastian wrote:
Bob gave me a great idea for a meme, which I now unashamedly plagiarised and tweaked.
I wonder if there's a way to make a stereo version of it... I hear this guy Brian May, Ph.D. knows a lot about that kind of stuff. Maybe he could help you ;-P
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The Real Wizard
Deity: 19367 posts
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thomasquinn 32989 wrote:
I don't think BM is "a gigantic liar", but he has a tendency to, shall we say take a rather revisionist approach to history, which just happens to emphasize his importance and that of his and his band's work. I don't think it's that nearly as much as it's whatever he needs to say at the time to market a current project. It's pretty standard music biz stuff that most of the big artists do. When the Zeppelin remasters came out, in an interview Jimmy Page angrily and categorically denied that he was on heroin in the late 70s, with his argument being "it says I was the producer, so therefore I must've been together."
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The Real Wizard
Deity: 19367 posts
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Sebastian wrote:
Bob gave me a great idea for a meme, which I now unashamedly plagiarised and tweaked. Hey, I take no credit for that ! Here is the original Venn diagram masterpiece:
"The more generous you are with your music, the more it comes back to you." -- Dan Lampinski http://www.queenlive.ca
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