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Posted: 26 Feb 06, 09:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Here's a few specific things I wish Queen had done doing their storied career:

1. Performed ALL of "Bohemian Rhapsody" on stage. That would have been a great surprise on the Magic Tour and the band would have had tens of thousands of willing backing vocalists. They could have gone the Foreigner route and invited local choirs to help out, too. I've seen Queen cover bands do justice to the song, so why couldn't Queen ever muster up the courage to take it on?

2. Performed "Under Pressure" with David Bowie at LIVE AID. Queen played a great set, but I think it would have been ever better had "Under Pressure" replaced "Hammer to Fall."

3. Made quality recordings of more live shows, particularly the earlier tours.

4. Made Jazz a more coherent album. From the track order to the mixing to the concept to the title, this album was always a bit of a head scratcher. There's a great nucleus of songs from which to work, but there's also some filler and unevenness. Better title would have been Razzmatazz.

5. Put "I Go Crazy" (and/or "Thank God It's Christmas") on The Works. There was room for it on side one. Seems like Queen was trying to steal a few of our pounds on that one. Very disappointing.

6. Used ALL unedited tracks on the CD version of Live Magic. Live at Wembley eventually made it a bit of a moot point, but I couldn't believe how the live tracks were butchered on Live Magic.

7. Not released Greatest Hits III. That record is such an unlistenable mish-mosh. It's a joke.

What specific things do you wish Queen had done, or not done?

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Posted: 26 Feb 06, 11:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

1) They should never publically regret about Hot Space and explaining why they've played in Sun City.

2) Paul Rodgers

3) MIH films

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Posted: 26 Feb 06, 12:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Putting re-mixed versions of under pressure and another bites the dust with Wyclef jean on greatest hits 3
It totally ruins a perfectly good song and i never listen to it. Waste of CD space!

Also, i think they should of added more to the works and A kind of magic. 9 songs was too little.

Make some songs like the prophet song a little shorter (even though it is still excellent) and songs like Is this the world that we created and lazing on a sunday afternoon a little more longer.
I find myself having to repeat those songs twice!


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Posted: 26 Feb 06, 14:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Two Words

Greg Brooks...

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Posted: 26 Feb 06, 14:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font color=gold>§mï<font color=1>++ÿ™ wrote:

Two Words

Greg Brooks...


lol, enough said!

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Posted: 26 Feb 06, 15:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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3. Made quality recordings of more live shows, particularly the earlier tours.


I'm sure they have plenty of quality recordings from throughout their career - theyre not going to release them though in any form whatsoever, they would rather make you download compressed versions of audience recordings than offer anything of any interest or worth. They are business men, not musicians - why release anything new when they can just repackage?

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Posted: 27 Feb 06, 01:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You guys seemed to be forgetting the "I Want To Break Free" video.


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Posted: 27 Feb 06, 01:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

1.) Continued their psychadelic, heavier sound from the earlier days. Queen and Queen II are unlike any other album the band made; even Sheer Heart Attack has a completely different feel to it from the first two albums. They never really did any album anything like Queen II, which is pretty disappointing.

2.) Not released AOBTD as a single. If that song isn't successful, they never make Hot Space.

3.) Done a few more collaborations. I would've liked to have heard them work with a guy like Jimmy Page, or Roger Daltrey.

4.) NOT MADE SO MANY SHITTY MUSIC VIDEOS...with only a few exceptions (The Miracle, I'm Going Slightly Mad), all their music videos are terrible. It'd be nice if they'd made a few good vids.


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Posted: 27 Feb 06, 01:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I wish Queen had performed "Love Of My Life" studio version on a live concert, complete with the harp and everything, with Freddie singing on the piano.


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Posted: 27 Feb 06, 07:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

kingarthur wrote:

You guys seemed to be forgetting the "I Want To Break Free" video.


You have got to be fucking mad...

And to whoever said Queen had crappy videos... come ON! They were great!


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Posted: 27 Feb 06, 08:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote


1) Released ANATO and ADATR as a double-album, like Brian wanted.
Perhaps it wouldn't sell as much, but I'm guessing it would be easily be considered the best album ever!

2) Re-think the drum sound in the Works Tour. LOL

3) Played Portugal (Best Audience in the World, as I've been told.... not Constantinople ;)

4) To have on film John throwing peanuts at Brian during his too-long-thus-BORING guitar solos;

5) Not letting Brian get away with more than 3 minutes of guitar solo;

6) Revisit Death on 2 legs for the Magic Tour...

I'll write more if I remember


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Posted: 27 Feb 06, 11:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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12.) Not released AOBTD as a single. If that song isn't successful, they never make Hot Space.


AOBTD was the best selling single in the US so I think it was a pretty good pick. They would've made Hot Space anyway:-P


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Posted: 27 Feb 06, 12:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"4) To have on film John throwing peanuts at Brian during his too-long-thus-BORING guitar solos;

5) Not letting Brian get away with more than 3 minutes of guitar solo;"

Silliest thing I've read in the past 5 minutes. The unfortunate thing is, because the solos run so long, he usually comes across something worth hearing every now and then. The price the listener pays is the long waiting time - but in that time the rest of the band can recover and the guitarist can go nuts composing on the spot!
If you ask me, no one loses with a 10 minute solo, especially when it's as good as Brian May's.

"6) Revisit Death on 2 legs for the Magic Tour..."

Now THIS I would have killed to see!


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Posted: 27 Feb 06, 12:45 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

homasQuinn wrote:


With all due respect, Brian May's Brighton Rock-guitar solo ranks as one of the worst solo's in recorded history.


In your opinion.

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Posted: 27 Feb 06, 12:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

dougie wrote:



2. Performed "Under Pressure" with David Bowie at LIVE AID. Queen played a great set, but I think it would have been ever better had "Under Pressure" replaced "Hammer to Fall."
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Are you mad? Hammer To Fall was great, pefectly suited as heavy stadium rock. It gave their set a bit of punch. They ought to have dropped Crazy LITTLE THING INSTEAD.


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Posted: 27 Feb 06, 13:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<b><font color = "crimson">ThomasQuinn wrote:

Zebonka12 wrote:

5) Not letting Brian get away with more than 3 minutes of guitar solo;"

Silliest thing I've read in the past 5 minutes. The unfortunate thing is, because the solos run so long, he usually comes across something worth hearing every now and then. The price the listener pays is the long waiting time - but in that time the rest of the band can recover and the guitarist can go nuts composing on the spot!
If you ask me, no one loses with a 10 minute solo, especially when it's as good as Brian May's.


With all due respect, Brian May's Brighton Rock-guitar solo ranks as one of the worst solo's in recorded history. It sounds like a guitarist practicing scales with an echo added to it, it is repetitive, dull and unimaginative, plus it completely fails to entertain the audience, which should be the main purpose of the solo.

May is a good guitarist, not the best by a long run, but good; however, his solos prove he is too much of a theoretical musician and too little of a player.


As if. The Brighton Rock guitar solo is one of the best recorded guitar solos on record. It doesn't get boring on record, like many boring flashy players you get in heavy metal type bands (Not the greats like Zep, Deep Purple, Cream etc more the Metallicas and Megadeaths) that think being a guitarist is all about technical ability and speed which is exactly what it ISN'T about.

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Posted: 27 Feb 06, 13:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

i wish that they would've performed 2-3 concerts on 1988 (or early 1989) with short setlist of The Miracle songs (freddie was then still capable to perform as he had some concerts on 88) that would've been my dream come true!

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Posted: 27 Feb 06, 14:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

ThomasQuinn wrote:



With all due respect, Brian May's Brighton Rock-guitar solo ranks as one of the worst solo's in recorded history. It sounds like a guitarist practicing scales with an echo added to it, it is repetitive, dull and unimaginative... his solos prove he is too much of a theoretical musician and too little of a player.


With the same due respect, Check out Miles Davis' "Go Ahead John". That's John McLaughlin. And that IS the WORST solo in recorded history. But it is one of the most sought-after recordings by one of the greatest guitarists. Sometimes bad is so bad, it's good.

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Posted: 28 Feb 06, 03:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Wow...I sense a little tension on this thread...reading the other post!

Anyways...I dont really think I have any "Queen" regrets, other than the fact that I wish I had been born a little sooner than 1983, like say 1963 instead...music was more creative back in the day than it is now!!! Their not too many artist out now that can sell out Wembley the way that Queen did!!

Oh...my only regret is: if they never existed at all, that was be a sho-nuff tragedy!! At least theres still CD's, DVD's,of their "hey day." And wonderful websites like Queenzone! Thank goodness for that!!


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Posted: 28 Feb 06, 05:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"Performed ALL of "Bohemian Rhapsody" on stage."

What's the point? Queen never performed a decent version of Bo Rap let alone should they attempt to sing mock opera with 3 vocalists. By that point in the show, FM and RT were buggered (vocally anyway) and well let's just forget about BM cause you can barely hear him live anyway.

"Performed "Under Pressure" with David Bowie at LIVE AID."

That would've been a surprise.

"Made quality recordings of more live shows, particularly the earlier tours."

I think it was band policy to record every single show. Having said that, I feel that by the year 3532, every single live show might be officially releaed on one format or another.

"Made Jazz a more coherent album."

After NOTW, it'd be illegal to use the words 'coherent' and 'Queen' in the same sentence. Jazz was trash, perhaps their worst ever album (definitely the worst of the 70s bunch).

"Put "I Go Crazy" (and/or "Thank God It's Christmas") on The Works."

Reasons why certain tracks don't make the album is because they don't fit into the scheme of things. Even though there might be plenty of room, the track simply may not "fit in". A possible reason why I Go Crazy was left off is because it was too similar in style to Tear It Up. Then again, by the 80s, Queen had long lost a grasp on schematic albums.

"Used ALL unedited tracks on the CD version of Live Magic. Live at Wembley eventually made it a bit of a moot point, but I couldn't believe how the live tracks were butchered on Live Magic."

It was a suprise Live Magic was even released at all. The band hated live albums but since the Magic Tour was a massive success, they decided to release a "souvenir", albeit in the form of a heavily edited album. The tracks were edited down to restrict the album to a single disc. To be completely honest, I very much prefer it over the Wembley album. I despise live albums that feature just the one show. I don't think I've even fully listened to or watched a Queen show. LM was a fun record, a short but sweet snapshot of how Queen sounded in '86. I think they should do this with every tour as opposed to releasing just one show per album.

"Not released Greatest Hits III. That record is such an unlistenable mish-mosh."

True, it was very unecessary. They even tried to cover it up by crediting it to "Queen+". But by that time, millennium was kicking in and QP saw dollar signs when they realised it would be a tremendous time to cash in on some 20th century nostalgia.

"What specific things do you wish Queen had done, or not done?"

*Did more high profile collaborations. The synergy would've been electric

*Worked with high profile producers to make them more fashionable and less dorky

*Do some high budget videos. The band had money but when you have whining members like RT who couldn't stand video shoots, you're left with trash like Back Chat.

*Release more studio footage. One Vision was superb, we needed more of this kind of intimate material.

That's all I can think of right now!


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