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Posted: 26 Feb 06, 22:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Wondering if anyone has gotten albums by longtime Freddie friend Peter Straker. I know there's Queen boots with tracks produced by Freddie, but the actual albums seem to be hard to find.




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Posted: 27 Feb 06, 07:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I've got Peter Strakers original 'This One's On Me' album.
Great record, by the way!!

Yes, it is relatively hard to find -(as a matter of fact, Peter himself doesn't even have it, believe it or not!- I will give him a copy one of these days, cause it comes up on eBay quite regularly.

Check it out - most of the time they don't go too expensive :-)



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Posted: 27 Feb 06, 08:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I've got "This one's on me" on vinyl.
But because it was never released on CD as far as I know, I have burned the complete album on CD, including a nice rework of the cover art.

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Posted: 27 Feb 06, 09:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks for your thoughts!

I actually just ordered that album through a rare album dealer. Apparently, there's three albums, all of which I'm sure bear Freddie's mark in some way -- he's at least in the thank-you list I'm sure.

Perhaps some day you'll post the Straker album on the hub?


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Posted: 27 Feb 06, 09:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Daniel Nester wrote:

Thanks for your thoughts!

I actually just ordered that album through a rare album dealer. Apparently, there's three albums, all of which I'm sure bear Freddie's mark in some way -- he's at least in the thank-you list I'm sure.

Perhaps some day you'll post the Straker album on the hub?

Yes, Peter did release three 'regular' solo-albums. But Freddie was not involved in all three of them. This One's On Me though, has Freddie's imput very clearly.

And, err, no... sorry, I won't upload officially released stuff, and I'm not even IN the hub to begin with! ;-)

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Posted: 27 Feb 06, 11:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Peter's album is already on the Hub, as I remember.

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Posted: 27 Feb 06, 11:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I have the third album - Real Natural Man, had nothing to do with Fred but a great album, and having spoken with Peters Drummer shortly after the album was out, Apart from Freds production Company being involved with Peters first album, Fred had no input on any of the material recorded and released by Peter S. This was also confirmed by the ladies at the Queen office some years ago when I visited there.


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Posted: 27 Feb 06, 11:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

ohh and another thing...
not that any one asked but IF they did ask....
Peter Straker would make a far better stand in for Freddie than Paul Rodgers. Dont get me wrong, Paul has a good voice in the right place, but after seing some live footage, cant be bothered to pay and see them, Queen is not the right place for his voice.
Peter has range, power, quality, seen him live some years back in theater, christ that guy can sing...


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Posted: 27 Feb 06, 11:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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I have the third album - Real Natural Man, had nothing to do with Fred but a great album, and having spoken with Peters Drummer shortly after the album was out, Apart from Freds production Company being involved with Peters first album, Fred had no input on any of the material recorded and released by Peter S. This was also confirmed by the ladies at the Queen office some years ago when I visited there.

Sorry, but about his first album, Peter himself remembers differently!



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Posted: 27 Feb 06, 18:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

WHY SHARED?
IT IS OFFICIAL





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Posted: 27 Feb 06, 18:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks for the input and the clarification of Freddie involvement or non-involvement in his albums.

Not that it's Queenzone's policy, but I could make a decent argument that an album that came out 25 years ago and has been long out of print would be a candidate for file-sharing and fall under the lable of "fair use." As a professor, I digitize long out-of-print spoken word and poetry albums and give them to my students with full confidence that it's completely legal.

That's an example from education, sure. But I put up my Humpy Bong 45, for instance, online, with little or no remorse of guilt of bilking anyone out of any money. True, they were officially released circa 1970, but have not see the light of day since on any other format.

The same might hold for Straker's albums.


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Posted: 27 Feb 06, 18:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sorry for the typos. Broken hand.


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Posted: 28 Feb 06, 16:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The Peter Straker Story

1968
Hair: LP Original Broadway Cast
(Peter Straker cast member/ background vocals)
Aquarius, Donna, Hashish, Sodomy, Coloured Spade, Manchester,England, Ain't Got No, Dead End, Sheila Franklin/I Believe In Love, The Rally, Air, Initials, I Got Life, Going Down, Hair, My Conviction, Easy To Be Hard, Don't Put It Down, Frank Mills, Be-In (Hare Krishna), Where Do I Go?, Electric Blues, Black Boys/White Boys, Walking In Space, Abie Baby/Gettysburg Address, Three-Five-Zero-Zero, What A Piece Of Work Is Man/Walking In Space (Reprise), Good Morning Starshine, The Bed, Eyes Look Your Last/Ain't Got No (Reprise)/The Flesh Failures (Let The Sun Shine In, The Bed, The Flesh Failures (Let The Sunshine In).

1972
Private Parts: LP RCA 8319
Before I've Said a Word, When Love Was Hard to Come By, Willow, Evensong, Dew of Love, As You Were Dying, Divided, Cock Robin, A Bad Night, Home from the Hill, What More Is There to Say

1977
Alan Parsons Project
I Robot: LP Mobile Fidelity MFSL-1-084
(Peter Straker - vocals)
I Robot, I Wouldn't Want to Be Like You, Some Other Time, Breakdown, Don't Let It Show, The Voice, Nucleus, Day After Day (The Show Must Go On), Total Eclipse, Genesis CH. 1 V. 32

Sept
Promo Ragtime Piano Joe/ Saddest Clown UK 7”EMI EMI 2700

October
This One’s On Me UK LP EMI EMC 3204
Songs 1 & 2 Mercury Songs Ltd. Song 3; Mercury Songs Ltd – Bruce Welch Music Ltd/ Health Levy Music Ltd. Produced by Freddie Mercury/ Roy Thomas Baker for Goose Productions.
Ada, I've Been To Hell And Back, Day The Talkies Came, Heart Be Still, Ragtime Piano Joe, Jackie, Annual Penguin Show, Saddest Clown, Vamp
NO further Freddie involvement with Peter Straker – except financial.
Peter later appeared with Freddie on the Barcelona LP and sessions, and the Great Pretender video, and Tom Baker as a Doctor Who extra in Destiny Of The Daleks.

1978
Feb
Jackie/ I’ve Been To Hell And Back UK 7” Promo EMI EMI 2758

September
Believer/ Queen Of The Self Service UK 7” EMI EMI 2853

1980
July
Late Night Taxi Driver/ Real Natural Man UK 7” Rocket XPRES 35

October
Real Natural Man UK LP Rocket TRAIN 12
Peter Straker And The Hands Of Dr Teleny: Changeling UK LP

September
200 New/ I Can’t Help It UK 7” Rocket XPRESS 84

1982
February
Spirit Is Willing UK 7” - RCA RCA 2163

1992
Barcelona (Freddie Mercury)



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Posted: 28 Feb 06, 16:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Daniel Nester wrote:

Thanks for your thoughts!

I actually just ordered that album through a rare album dealer. Apparently, there's three albums, all of which I'm sure bear Freddie's mark in some way -- he's at least in the thank-you list I'm sure.


Sorry, but this is not so. The only album to bear any mark of Freddie's is 'This One's On Me' - a title which refers to Freddie's paying for the album.

There are no 'thank-yous' on any of the other albums.


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Posted: 28 Feb 06, 16:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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Yes, it is relatively hard to find -(as a matter of fact, Peter himself doesn't even have it, believe it or not!- I will give him a copy one of these days, cause it comes up on eBay quite regularly.


Actually this is not true either. Peter does indeed have a copy of the album. In fact he owns a few hundred of them. He was also presented with a copy by both the Queen and Peter Starker fan clubs. He also gave free copies to Tom Baker amongst others.

Rock stars - you just gotta believe them!!!

And yes - it is OFFICIAL regardless of age or availablitly - and as such - can not be shared in here - just as EARLIER bands like 'The Beatles' the 'Stones', Jimi Hendrix or Jerry Lee Lewis can not be shared in here either, simply because their music remains the property of 'EMI' - and as such are NOT in the public domain.


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Posted: 28 Feb 06, 18:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I have a "semi-official" Queen CD called "Pre-Ordained" with some Smile tracks and, inexplicably, what appear to be several of the tracks from Peter Straker's "This One's On Me"! I thought when I first listened to it that the vocals were clearly not Freddie, and now I know why! Perhaps whatever company produced this CD saw the publishing was Mercury Songs and just went with it. As soon as I dig it up I'll confirm the track listing, but these must be the Straker songs.


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Posted: 28 Feb 06, 19:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hi RedSpecial,

there you go: http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=708948

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Posted: 01 Mar 06, 06:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

John S Stuart wrote:

jeroen wrote:


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Rock stars - you just gotta believe them!!!

*sigh* so...
So far I've got Brian May giving me untrue information about quite some things because of his fading memory, Peter Straker just plain telling me lies about a) Freddie's involvement AND b)him having his own record...? Maybe that last bottle of wine, realy was too much for that old queer...

...I can still hear Brian's rants... Sure Brian, OF COURSE it's al THE MEDIA's fault!
That's right, I must have misunderstood!



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Posted: 01 Mar 06, 11:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Nothing since 1992? What has he been up to since then?

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Posted: 01 Mar 06, 11:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

He's been doing small theater, plays, revue's, cabaret... stuff like that. He does not want to be in the 'pop-' industry anymore.

...Unless he's been telling me lies about that too... :-S