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Posted: 28 Feb 06, 08:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I've always wondered why a great song like Liar never reached a high position in the charts (Probably because it was too long and it didn't get a propper release). But even a radio edit would've been great! The song has so much potential, for me it's Queen's first ever jewel!

Not to mention that it sounds incredible live! :-)

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Posted: 28 Feb 06, 09:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

There is a radio edit and it is a desecration.


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Posted: 28 Feb 06, 11:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

BHM 0271 wrote:

There is a radio edit and it is a desecration.

I've never heard it so I can't judge it myself yet but for now I'll take your word for it. :-)

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Posted: 28 Feb 06, 12:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The song is great for being played live, but it's not suitable for radioplay. I don't know the radio edit, but I don't think, editing could help. It's simply too long (the opening part before the vocals set in is more than 1:30!) and there are too many different parts – every part is great, but as a sequence it's not recognizable enough for the mainstream listener. It's not the usual song structure.


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Posted: 28 Feb 06, 14:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I like the BBC version much more. The vocals are much better and louder.


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Posted: 28 Feb 06, 15:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I heard the single edit about a year ago. Similar to what they did with the US radio edit for 'It's Late.' Start with a quick intro, one verse, no solo. Very jarring and disjointed, almost like another song.


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Posted: 28 Feb 06, 15:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think its a great song, but I don't think it would work well on radio. Its a bit long - maybe if it was on a later album radio stations would have played it more. Great guitar in that song.


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Posted: 28 Feb 06, 15:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Liar is a great song, but it's easy to miss considering how uneven "Queen" is, and especially the fact that it isn't particularly radio-friendly.

Liar and March of the Black Queen show that Freddie was trying to write Bohemian Rhapsody from the word go.


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Posted: 28 Feb 06, 15:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

My Fairy King contains some stunning piano bits of Freddie. One of his best songs, IMHO. Love it. Especially the BBC version. Also some pre-Boh Rhap parts are in here too.


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Posted: 28 Feb 06, 16:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Anyone wanna upload the single edit of Liar for us?

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Posted: 28 Feb 06, 16:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

.DeaconJohn. wrote:

Anyone wanna upload the single edit of Liar for us?


It's official, I guess.



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Posted: 28 Feb 06, 16:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font color=FF0099>Linda Of The Valley wrote:

<font color=blue>Rick wrote:

My Fairy King contains some stunning piano bits of Freddie. One of his best songs, IMHO. Love it. Especially the BBC version. Also some pre-Boh Rhap parts are in here too.


THANK YOU!

I mean I love Liar and do think it's possibly under-rated by some but My Fairy King has got to be Freddie's least acknowledged song. I love that era where he was into that...argh..can't even think of a genre for it! :)


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Posted: 28 Feb 06, 18:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sorry, I know nothing about remixes.

When was it officially released?

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Posted: 28 Feb 06, 20:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

TIM, nice post about MOTBQ, yeah also many songs on the SHA album mix up the heavy chorus vocals then a flaming guitar solo -- "Flick of the Wrist"


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Posted: 28 Feb 06, 23:24 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Liar often ranks in the top 10 favorite songs of hard-core Queen fans. It is far from underrated.


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Posted: 28 Feb 06, 23:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"Liar and March of the Black Queen show that Freddie was trying to write Bohemian Rhapsody from the word go."

Millionaire Waltz shows that Freddie couldn't stop!


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Posted: 01 Mar 06, 01:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I agree, Liar was extremly underated. That's nothing new, queen have loads of underated songs. Millianare waltz and it's late are also underated.How about Great king rat or my fairy king?

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Posted: 01 Mar 06, 03:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You could consider the entire first album to be underrated then, which I think it is.
When I talk to non-Queen fans about music and we come to Queen then most of them think Queen's earliest album is A Night At The Opera.

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Posted: 01 Mar 06, 06:47 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

.DeaconJohn. wrote:

Sorry, I know nothing about remixes.

When was it officially released?


1974. In the States, NZ, Oz and Netherlands (as B-side).


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Posted: 01 Mar 06, 14:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font color=FF0099>Linda Of The Valley wrote:


THANK YOU!

I mean I love Liar and do think it's possibly under-rated by some but My Fairy King has got to be Freddie's least acknowledged song. I love that era where he was into that...argh..can't even think of a genre for it! :)



My Fairy King is a beautiful track...and it probably went as close to true prog-rock as queen ever got.....the whole "alternate reality" theme...oh, and the complete lift from Robert' Browning's - The Pied Piper of Hamelin: (but still pretty awesome nonetheless)

Where waters gushed and fruit trees grew,
And flowers put forth a fairer hue,
And everything was strange and new;
The sparrows were brighter than the peacocks here,
And their dogs outran our fallow deer,
And honey-bees had lost their stings,
And horses were born with eagles' wings;

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