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Posted: 01 Mar 06, 20:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I believe this song to be very underrated and is probably my all time favorite Queen song. I was just curious to who would rather have this song be Queen's greatest accomplishment than Bo Rhap. I mean I know it lacks the amazing operatic part that Bo Rhap has, but otherwise the song is just straight up amazing and very powerful, and I think represents Queen more than Bo Rhap. These are just my thoughts and I am believe it or not entitled to my opinion =)


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Posted: 01 Mar 06, 23:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Freddie_Jr. wrote:

I believe this song to be very underrated and is probably my all time favorite Queen song. I was just curious to who would rather have this song be Queen's greatest accomplishment than Bo Rhap. I mean I know it lacks the amazing operatic part that Bo Rhap has, but otherwise the song is just straight up amazing and very powerful, and I think represents Queen more than Bo Rhap. These are just my thoughts and I am believe it or not entitled to my opinion =)


Queen II contains some superb material but it's the worst-sounding Queen album there is. There's even more mud on that album than there was at a Queen after-party. Listening to QII is like listening to a really poor bootleg recording of an excellent concert. Black Queen is, no doubt, the jewel in the crown of II, obviously a building block in the construction of Bo Rap. I wouldn't go as far as to pronounce it the best thing Queen ever did - besides Bo Rap, tracks like Millionare Waltz, Somebody To Love, Was It All Worth It, Innuendo and Show Must Go On must be definitely considered.

I wish Queen actually put out a comilation where it focused on their better efforts as a band, not so much their commercial hits. They have heaps of brilliant songs that the casual fan just doesn't know about.


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Posted: 02 Mar 06, 03:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I don't think any song represents queen better than Bo rhap, but march of the black queen is one of the best queen songs ever. Basically the whole queen2 album was a masterpeice.

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Posted: 02 Mar 06, 06:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yep!


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Posted: 02 Mar 06, 16:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I don't agree with you Danny. I'd rather have a wall of sound than drum machines telephone buzzers and synths on Hot Space Roger playing aluminium cans on Jazz, or the synthetic mess of The Works. I think Queen II is excellently produced and MOTB was a magnificent song- agressive, reflective and all the bits in between. I love the vocal dual with Roger Taylor, "I'll foe and I'll fie" etc.


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Posted: 02 Mar 06, 17:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I also have to disagree about the sound of QII. For it's time, it's an exceptionally well produced album. I also wish there was a compilation of some of the lesser mainstream tracks (Queen Rocks goes some of the way), if only for a stand alone version of MOTBQ.


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Posted: 02 Mar 06, 17:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

March of the Black Queen is amazing, I think its tied with Bohemian Rhapsody.

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Posted: 02 Mar 06, 19:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I agree with many of the comments. Yes, it is underrated. Yes, the sound on Queen II is unbalanced (but certainly beats the synth sound of Hot Space). However, Deacon's bass BARELY resonates in my speakers. Roger's bass kick sounds like crap.....among many other things. Of course, before SHA or ANATO, Queen probably weren't worth the time or money to do a better engineered mix. They weren't quite established yet. Anyone else agree???

I believe March of the Black Queen is not Bo Rhap because the sections in the piece are not well formed or distinctive. Freddie definitely did his homework. The vocals are amazing, the instrumentation is done well, but it lacks structure. Anyone agree on that???

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Posted: 03 Mar 06, 05:04 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

yeh the bass on the whole of Queen 2 is not very prominant which us a real shame because it contains some of deacons best work.


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Posted: 03 Mar 06, 06:07 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I guess I'm the only one who thinks "Father to Son" was the best song on Queen II.

I really like the sound on Queen II...it has this raw, unpolished feel to it that Queen never got back to, and I think it adds a lot of atmosphere and flavor to the album, especially on the White Side.


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Posted: 03 Mar 06, 10:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

chauncey wrote:


I believe March of the Black Queen is not Bo Rhap because the sections in the piece are not well formed or distinctive. Freddie definitely did his homework. The vocals are amazing, the instrumentation is done well, but it lacks structure. Anyone agree on that???


Yes, I totally agree with that. BoRhap is one whole song, it has a beginning, a middle and an end. It makes sense as a whole. MotBQ, however, is more of a collection of loose ideas, and they don't really make much sense as a whole. I do love MotBQ, but BoRhap is the better "song".


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Posted: 03 Mar 06, 11:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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I don't agree with you Danny. I'd rather have a wall of sound than drum machines telephone buzzers and synths on Hot Space Roger playing aluminium cans on Jazz, or the synthetic mess of The Works. I think Queen II is excellently produced and MOTB was a magnificent song- agressive, reflective and all the bits in between. I love the vocal dual with Roger Taylor, "I'll foe and I'll fie" etc.


II is (imo) their best-produced album..they were free to do what they want...and side black is the best side of ANY vinyl record anywhere ever....it's awe-inspiring


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Posted: 03 Mar 06, 11:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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March of the Black Queen is amazing, I think its tied with Bohemian Rhapsody.


Fairy Feller/Nevermore/MOTB is the embryo of Bo-Rhap


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Posted: 03 Mar 06, 11:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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I guess I'm the only one who thinks "Father to Son" was the best song on Queen II.

I really like the sound on Queen II...it has this raw, unpolished feel to it that Queen never got back to, and I think it adds a lot of atmosphere and flavor to the album, especially on the White Side.


raw? unpolished....never!
you may have missed a point or two here...Roy Thomas Baker is actually quotes as saying that II was their "kitchen sink" album...where they threw every production technique they coudl at it


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Posted: 03 Mar 06, 14:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Queen II is incredible and deserves a place in rock history right along with ANATO. It is certainly a masterpiece, and Side Black is the best album side ever, period. TMOTBQ ranks as my 2nd fav Queen song right after BoRhap. Everything they did in QII was downright brilliant.


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Posted: 03 Mar 06, 15:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Yes, you're right. Absolutely.

IMO BoRhap is the better song. But the black side is the better album side compared to ANATO, side 2.


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Posted: 03 Mar 06, 15:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

so brenski has a point then...pous himslef a very large (self congratualtory) Jameson's and Diet Coke


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Posted: 05 Mar 06, 01:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I also think side black is queens best album side ever, but I don't think MOTBQ is better than bo rhap. the reason why bo rhap is so brilliant is it brings out so many different emotions, it's sad, then funny, then sad again. How many songs can make you laugh and cry within 6 minutes. A night at the opera (side 2) is very close in excellence to side black, The prophet song, love of my life and the underated good company, bo rhap is pretty impressive.