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Posted: 02 Mar 06, 19:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

"Instruments used by Queen on tour" part on queenconcerts.com says:

For certain songs (Save Me at Hammersmith '79, Millionaire Waltz at Earls Court, Get Down Make Love) an Eventide Harmoniser was used for pitch shifting, controlled by the sound engineer.

What does it mean "Pitch Shifting"?


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Posted: 02 Mar 06, 23:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

A pitch shifter creates harmony from one note.
For example you could play a C note and the harmonizer/pitch shifter will add an E note and a G note. This creates a C major chord.

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Posted: 03 Mar 06, 08:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

More correctly, a pitch shifter can alter the pitch of a note (up or down). A harmonizer actually adds another note (or more) on top of the original one.
To avoid misuderstandings, the harmonizer and pitch shifter were used by Brian on his guitar, not to enhance the backing vocals.

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Posted: 03 Mar 06, 09:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Weren't similar devices used for the vocal effects, e.g. in Get Down Make Love?


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Posted: 03 Mar 06, 09:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Fireplace wrote:

More correctly, a pitch shifter can alter the pitch of a note (up or down). A harmonizer actually adds another note (or more) on top of the original one.
To avoid misuderstandings, the harmonizer and pitch shifter were used by Brian on his guitar, not to enhance the backing vocals.


Very true, however in the case of 'Save me' the solo live could well be done with the aid of a harmonizer rather than pitch shifting, as it was if you remember a rather mechanical harmony in the original. i suspect it is the original quote that is not accurate rather than anything else. But you are totally correct about the differnce between the two.


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Posted: 03 Mar 06, 11:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Nummer2 wrote:

Weren't similar devices used for the vocal effects, e.g. in Get Down Make Love?


I don't know about that one, but I think SHA and BL had it.


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Posted: 03 Mar 06, 14:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hey Guys

Pitch shifting, Harmonizing - listen to Chinese Torture for the lot .....

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Posted: 04 Mar 06, 18:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks guys!

BHM, you mean Brian guitar on Chinese Torture? If so it's really nice effect. Yeah, and Get Down Make Love MIDDLE VOICE'S BRIDGE fully has this effect.

Teleman, PITCH-effect adds G & E to C. CHORUS-effect adds just many-many "C"'s?


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Posted: 04 Mar 06, 20:36 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Seven_Seas_Of_Rhye II wrote:

Thanks guys!

BHM, you mean Brian guitar on Chinese Torture? If so it's really nice effect. Yeah, and Get Down Make Love MIDDLE VOICE'S BRIDGE fully has this effect.

Teleman, PITCH-effect adds G & E to C. CHORUS-effect adds just many-many "C"'s?

Pitch shifting as a harmonizer adds harmony notes.
It could be a third and fifth above the note played.
Intelligent pitch shifting will do this in key.
For example C plus E(a major 3rd above C) plus G(a fifth above C), D plus F(a minor 3rd above D) and A(a fifth above D)and so on. Note the interval of a 3rd is major for C and minor for D.
It can be useful for playing multiple harmonized lines with only one guitar but IMHO sucks in the studio unless used as an effect(like Yes's Owner of a Lonely Heart)
Hope this helps.