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Posted: 03 Mar 06, 13:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hi everyone,

Many people know this great concert which was recorded with a stunning quality. I have a problem with the name of the venue. I have watched many lists and sometimes i saw Sartory Hall, sometimes Sporthalle. I did some research on the internet and I didn't find any trace of Sartory Hall but i found a Sartory Saal. Could you please tell me which is the real venue where Queen played on the 6th of December of 1974?

Another question from a friend: He's trying to make the most complete and exact list of the Queen concerts (you can watch it here: http://melblues.free.fr/concerts_1.htm ) . There is a problem for concerts at the Imperial College in 1970. Some sources say Queen played there on the 12th of July, some sources say they played there on the 18th of July and some say they played there on both of these nights. So what is the truth?

Thanks for your answers. ;)


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Posted: 04 Mar 06, 12:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

little foetus wrote:

Hi everyone,

Many people know this great concert which was recorded with a stunning quality. I have a problem with the name of the venue. I have watched many lists and sometimes i saw Sartory Hall, sometimes Sporthalle. I did some research on the internet and I didn't find any trace of Sartory Hall but i found a Sartory Saal. Could you please tell me which is the real venue where Queen played on the 6th of December of 1974?


"Saal" looks like a Dutch word, not German. I guess maybe the Sporthalle was sponsored by Sartory at some point (although I'd be surprised if this was the case back in '74


Another question from a friend: He's trying to make the most complete and exact list of the Queen concerts (you can watch it here: http://melblues.free.fr/concerts_1.htm ) . There is a problem for concerts at the Imperial College in 1970. Some sources say Queen played there on the 12th of July, some sources say they played there on the 18th of July and some say they played there on both of these nights. So what is the truth?

Thanks for your answers. ;)


Your friend should give up. The definitive list already exists - www.queenconcerts.com

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Posted: 04 Mar 06, 12:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hi Thanks,

thanks for your answer. If you were a little bit more aware about the queen concerts, you should have known that there are some minor errors on queenconcerts and Martin admitted it.

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Posted: 04 Mar 06, 17:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

..and if you tell him what they are, he'll be grateful and will correct them.

Or are you in competition?

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Posted: 04 Mar 06, 18:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

saal, is the german word for hall, room etc

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Penetration_Guru wrote:

..and if you tell him what they are, he'll be grateful and will correct them.

Or are you in competition?


Not at all, my friend sent a mail two days ago to Martin and he helped him. So that is very kind to him. ;)

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Posted: 06 Mar 06, 05:35 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

little foetus wrote:

Hi everyone,

Many people know this great concert which was recorded with a stunning quality. I have a problem with the name of the venue. I have watched many lists and sometimes i saw Sartory Hall, sometimes Sporthalle. I did some research on the internet and I didn't find any trace of Sartory Hall but i found a Sartory Saal. Could you please tell me which is the real venue where Queen played on the 6th of December of 1974?


Thanks for your answers. ;)


I happen to be from cologne, so I can confirm that it was definitely not the (now demolished) "Sporthalle". They did play the Sporthalle later on several times, though.

The Sartory Saal is an auditorium within a hotel complex. Actually there are three different sized halls in that complex, and the biggest has a capacity of about 1500, I think.

But I am not quite sure that they actually played there, as normally this is a congress center, or used for theatrical and especially carnival-events. I have never heard of any rockband playing there.

Around 1974 there was another venue in cologne which was the top address for upcoming bands: the "Stollwerck", an old Chocolate-Factory. I am pretty convinced that they actually played there, and the name was confused. Freddie at some point talks about the "unusual venue", but that could apply to both venues: a hotel-auditorium and an old factory...

I will do some research on that.


Guten Tag und Guten Abend !!! We had a great time in Cologne. Drinking beer in the sunshine beside the Mighty Rhein brought back many memories for me..... (Brian May, 2004)