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Posted: 14 May 06, 10:18 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hi, I'm wondering if anyone can provide some advice about burning mpg's to DVD, when encoding what is the best bitrate encode the video to avoid major pixel issues (bad digital video bits when viewing back on the TV screen) on the DVD?

For instance when encoding what should the Average Bit Rate be set to (in Mbps)? What should the Maximum bit Rate be set to (in Mbps)? And should the Motion Estimation be set at Good, Better or Best?)...Im using Toast 7 on a Mac.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated, I'm just trying to get good quality video reproduced from the mpg's

Thanks!!

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Posted: 14 May 06, 11:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Doesn't Toast have a help file?

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Posted: 14 May 06, 21:44 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

nightmare wrote:

I'm just trying to get good quality video reproduced from the mpg's


You can't make the quality any better by making it a DVD, so why can't you just burn them to vcd/svcd? DVD is meant for DVD quality.


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Posted: 14 May 06, 22:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I've found the easiest way to put mpgs on DVD is to leave them as mpgs. If you make a data disc of mpgs in VCD quality and burn them onto a DVD you can have a VCD of over 7 and a half hours. The quality won't be any better than VCD but you won't have as many CDs to worry about, especially with the amounts of stuff you can find in Queenzone.


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Posted: 14 May 06, 22:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

nightmare wrote:

I'm just trying to get good quality video reproduced from the mpg's


You can't make the quality any better by making it a DVD, so why can't you just burn them to vcd/svcd? DVD is meant for DVD quality.


rescued yourself from the other post hehe

Yes keep them as (S)vcd.
They are not DVD so basically dont treat them as they are.
They never will be regardless what you do to them.
If fact,by making yet another conversion process to put them into DVD specs,you will be losing more quality
& if you do.....dont call them,trade them,rip them back to dvd please.
There's enough crap about


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Posted: 15 May 06, 15:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

928 wrote:

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

nightmare wrote:

I'm just trying to get good quality video reproduced from the mpg's


You can't make the quality any better by making it a DVD, so why can't you just burn them to vcd/svcd? DVD is meant for DVD quality.


rescued yourself from the other post hehe


Yes, and I'd appreciate it if you apologized, preferably in that topic. Again, nowhere did I say I was converting svcd to dvd, so calling me a twat was rather uncalled for.



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Posted: 15 May 06, 15:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I called you a twat in that other post for saying that there was minimal difference in a SVCD & a DVD.You are wrong.
& for saying that ,you were a twat....

& for that statement ,twat stands i'm afraid.
Quite mild considering some of the replies i give.

Take it or leave it m8,i dont debate ,i tell it as it is.

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Posted: 15 May 06, 16:02 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

text speak is for twats.

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Posted: 15 May 06, 16:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Of course, in all of this, the original recording quality has to be considered.


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Posted: 15 May 06, 21:22 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

928 wrote:

I called you a twat in that other post for saying that there was minimal difference in a SVCD & a DVD.You are wrong.
& for saying that ,you were a twat....

& for that statement ,twat stands i'm afraid.
Quite mild considering some of the replies i give.

Take it or leave it m8,i dont debate ,i tell it as it is.


And I explained myself there. I'll even provide a link:

http://www.queenzone.com/queenzone/forumnew/forum_topic_view.aspx?Q=504609&page=2

You may have much knowledge about the quality of bootlegs, but you certainly have a long way to go when it comes to making friends.



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Posted: 15 May 06, 22:33 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

OK, I think I can assist here.
I've done my fair share of VCD/SVCD/DVD encoding and manipulating.

Basically put, and this was stated before, if the video isn't DVD-quality, don't bother making it a DVD file. The quality will NOT improve.

This page below should explain what the difference between each format is (VCD-SVCD), but I can give a quick rundown.
http://www.weethet.nl/english/video_formats.php

VCD is 352x240 for NTSC or 352x288 for PAL, and is MPEG1. This format is almost universally compatible with DVD players. At the standard bitrate of 1150 kbps for video and 224 kbps for audio, you can fit 80 minutes of video onto a 700 MB CD-R.

SVCD is 480x480 for NTSC or 480x576 for PAL, and is MPEG2. SVCD videos are squished in encoding, but expanded when played back. As a result of this, SVCDs are not compatible in some DVD players. The bitrate is variable for SVCDs, so the amount of video that can fit onto a 700 MB CD-R varies from 35 minutes to 60 minutes.

However, if your DVD player is capable of playing raw MPEGs (just basic .MPG files burned to a data CD or DVD), then by all means do so. Just make sure that the resolution isn't wonky, and you should be fine.

To see if your DVD player can play raw MPEGs, visit www.videohelp.com.
And for encoding them, I'd recommend TMPGEnc at www.tmpgenc.net.


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Posted: 15 May 06, 22:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

nightmare wrote:

Hi, I'm wondering if anyone can provide some advice about burning mpg's to DVD, when encoding what is the best bitrate encode the video to avoid major pixel issues (bad digital video bits when viewing back on the TV screen) on the DVD?

For instance when encoding what should the Average Bit Rate be set to (in Mbps)? What should the Maximum bit Rate be set to (in Mbps)? And should the Motion Estimation be set at Good, Better or Best?)...Im using Toast 7 on a Mac.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated, I'm just trying to get good quality video reproduced from the mpg's

Thanks!!


Hi. I use Toast 7 and I would use "Better" for the motion estimation. Using Best will fuck up the movements of the musicians..

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Posted: 17 May 06, 06:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Thanks a million for all this precious information Suigi!
I have one question: I burned one mpeg file to VCD and played it on my video, but the menu I created was not working, while if I played that same CD on the computer it worked perfectly.
Does anybody know why was that?
Are menus not good for VCDs?
Thanks.


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