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Posted: 14 Jun 06, 18:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Great King Rat. Who is he?

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Posted: 14 Jun 06, 18:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

**Starts singing**
Great King Rat was a dirty old man
And a dirty old man was he...**stops singing** just kidding, I don't actually know. I asked that kind of question on the 21st of May, which---according to the song---was the day he was born and the day he died (of syphillis).

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Posted: 14 Jun 06, 18:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I knew Great King Rat

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Posted: 14 Jun 06, 18:38 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

He was an evil warlord/tyrant who lived for one thousand years. He used his forces to terrorise the good people of Queenland. Only I, Sir Nathan, head of the order of the knights of the Queenzone table, could stand up to him and engage his armies in combat. I and my fellow QZ table knights fought a vicious campaign against him which lasted seven years. We overthrew him, but alas, all my brave knights fell in combat. I am the sole survivor.

After his overthrow, he retired to a secret life where he was known as 'Bill'. I think he worked in a hospital in his final years.

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Posted: 14 Jun 06, 18:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sir Nathan The Cowboy wrote:

He was an evil warlord/tyrant who lived for one thousand years. He used his forces to terrorise the good people of Queenland. Only I, Sir Nathan, head of the order of the knights of the Queenzone table, could stand up to him and engage his armies in combat. I and my fellow QZ table knights faought a vicious campaign against him which lasted seven years. We overthrew him, but alas, all my brave knights fell in combat. I am the sole survivor.

After his overthrow, he retired to a secret life where he was known as 'Bill'. I think he worked in a hospital in his final years.


Hey, good one, Sir Nathan The Cowboy.

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Posted: 14 Jun 06, 19:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

wouldn't YOU like to know?


ha, interesting question, one I've thougt about many times. I've never come to any conclusions about this song: less than many including bo rhap. I think, though, that it is the supposedly wicked King Rat whos narrating the part of the song that gives you all of the "bad advice": as if it were sort of the way king rat thought or lived:
"now listen all you people--
put out the good and keep the bad,
Dont believe all you read in the bible...
You sinners get in line
saints you leave far behind"
blah blah about not listening to Mama and stuff...generally vile things.

this song... its so intriguing: because I think Freddie DID know what was going on but was only just aluding to it ON PURPOSE... like a puzzle left out there with most of the peices showing, but not much way to sort them. he taunts you with it too: "wouldnt you like to know?" and then says, "No, i'm not gonna tell you what you ALEADY KNOW".... as if its there before us to see....

"'Cause time and time again
The old man said it all a long time ago"
Great. Whos the old man? what did he say king rat and who IS king Rat? I've thought about this being sort of a self refection, maybe: how he was veiwing his won life.... there WAS certainly huge amounts of guilt swarming in Freddie this period of his life present in many other areas... but this particular song is so hard to string togther. But I think thats the way Freddie wanted it. Like a puzzle. Dont stop looking, and tell me if you realise it one day, friend... Till then, Just remeber... as far as the answer lies....

He told you once before!!!!!!

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Posted: 14 Jun 06, 20:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Actually........ my doggie Leo is the reencarnation of Great King Rat! He was born on the 21st of May... Isn't he the most evil lil' thang?

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Posted: 14 Jun 06, 23:11 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

OH SO CUTE!


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Posted: 14 Jun 06, 23:40 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

AWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!! What a little darling he is!!!

But getting back to the question I think Great King Rat was Freddie's old schoolmaster that he mentioned once.

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Posted: 14 Jun 06, 23:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Awwww, that dog is totally cute!

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Posted: 14 Jun 06, 23:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Eat your hearts out! XD


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Posted: 15 Jun 06, 02:55 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

That would be me then!
Great King Rat is my favourite Queen song by a long shot. I was thinking about it recently, and in some ways it's actually a bit prophetic - GKR dies at 44 (only one year out)as a result of a sexually transmitted infection.... spooky? Or am I just talking crap again?


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Posted: 15 Jun 06, 12:19 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

maybe we are never going to understand so we mite aswell give up

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Posted: 15 Jun 06, 14:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Coxy wrote:

maybe we are never going to understand so we mite aswell give up

What a fine, ignorant way to look at life, eh?

everyone lives this way. that is why people stop thinking for themselves and get stupid.


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Posted: 15 Jun 06, 15:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Let's get our creative thinking and our imaginations activated then.

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Posted: 15 Jun 06, 16:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Wasn't this song about Hendrix?


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Posted: 15 Jun 06, 16:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Namejs wrote:

Wasn't this song about Hendrix?


No, Namejs, it wasn't. Hendrix didn't pass away of syphillis on May 21st. He passed away on September 18th, 1970 of---according to findagrave---suffication dut to inhalation of his own vomit. Although the cases remained in dispute, some poeple said that Hendrix commited suicide or overdosed of drugs.

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Posted: 15 Jun 06, 16:53 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Queen_Rox wrote:

Namejs wrote:

Wasn't this song about Hendrix?


No, Namejs, it wasn't. Hendrix didn't pass away of syphillis on May 21st. He passed away on September 18th, 1970 of---according to findagrave---suffication dut to inhalation of his own vomit. Although the cases remained in dispute, some poeple said that Hendrix commited suicide or overdosed of drugs.

That saved me time researching, hehe! Thanks! ;)


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Posted: 15 Jun 06, 17:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

<font color=336600>ChinesedogTorture wrote:

Queen_Rox wrote:

Namejs wrote:

Wasn't this song about Hendrix?


No, Namejs, it wasn't. Hendrix didn't pass away of syphillis on May 21st. He passed away on September 18th, 1970 of---according to findagrave---suffication dut to inhalation of his own vomit. Although the cases remained in dispute, some poeple said that Hendrix commited suicide or overdosed of drugs.

That saved me time researching, hehe! Thanks! ;)


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Posted: 15 Jun 06, 17:29 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I had no idea you could die of syphilis.


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