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Posted: 19 Jul 06, 05:41 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

To start something fresh between the huge amount of threads about Greg Brooks:

What's your opinion on the song Sweet Lady?

Do you think it's underrated or is it indeed one of Queen's weaker songs as I think many people would say.

I agree that it's absolutely no match for songs like The Prophet's Song or Bohemian Rhpasody on the A Night At The Opera album but I don't think it's the weakest song in their entire catalogue. It doesn't have that much depth, on the other hand it did pretty well when played live I must say.

Any thoughts?

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Posted: 19 Jul 06, 05:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

See, I have recently changed my attitude about this track. It used to be a bit boring, but I started to really like it. Not like it was a crap song before, but I just never connected to it. But now, well, I think it's a cool one.

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Posted: 19 Jul 06, 05:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Great question, Jay. To tell you the truth, I hated it at first; it sounded like they'd just written any old rocker to keep the album in the heavy category- perhaps to please the metal fans because of all the music hall jazz that was on ANATO. Now, I rather like it- it's quite ascerbic and the riff, though basic is very catchy- it improves as it goes along with a great fast rock ending. yes, it's a good, solid hard rocker which improved as a live piece and would have been geat at Wembley.


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Posted: 19 Jul 06, 06:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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The live version is alright... I stil can't stand the lyrics though.

"you make me feel like some kind of a cheese" I mean come on now...


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Posted: 19 Jul 06, 06:08 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

the_hero wrote:

The live version is alright... I stil can't stand the lyrics though.

"you make me feel like some kind of a cheese" I mean come on now...


The whole sentence is less lame. ;)

"you make me feel like some kind of a cheese waiting on a shelf"




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Posted: 19 Jul 06, 07:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Nice work by Rog, poor lyrics, but unusual track a little bit...

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Posted: 19 Jul 06, 07:34 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

It's a good rocker, with okay lyrics and absolutely brilliant harmony guitars. I listened to it in 5.1 and it smokes. The line for the record is "you call me sweet like I'm some kind of cheese", and it is the most misunderstood lyric in the Queen catalogue. The song is a converstion, with "the woman" answering "the man", and saying he treats her like a product to be put on a shelf when finished. Cheese can be sweet BTW, but it's whooly tongue in cheek and not meant to be taken literally like cheese is sweet like a lollipop or cotton candy.


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Posted: 19 Jul 06, 07:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Great track. Especially the bridge is awesome.

The one thing that spoils it a bit for me is the poor chorus.


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Posted: 19 Jul 06, 09:03 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I agree that the riff is pretty cool. Still I think they should have added some more harmonic vocals to the whole thing.

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Posted: 19 Jul 06, 09:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

the_hero wrote:

The live version is alright... I stil can't stand the lyrics though.

"you make me feel like some kind of a cheese" I mean come on now...


That lyric is as... cheesy... as they get! :)

Anyway, since when is cheese sweet?

A dire song. I wouldn't give it a second listen if it wasn't on ANATO.

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Posted: 19 Jul 06, 09:15 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sweet Lady is filler. It's the weak link of a classic album. If only Tie Your Mother Down could have replaced it.

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Posted: 19 Jul 06, 11:28 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I always liked the song, but it always struck me that the song was a bit of a rush job. Parts of it are great (the main riff in particular), but the transition parts of the song just don't sound right to me (main part to bridge to chorus and back etc.). I do really like the "though it seems like we wait forever..." vocal, a real nice job by Freddie.


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Posted: 19 Jul 06, 11:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think that the last part of Sweet Lady is one of the best collaborations, musical wise, by John, Brian and Roger on a record. It's simply stunning. It has everything. It really shows how much talent they had as a band.

I only hate the way Freddie sings the words "Sweet Lady".


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Posted: 19 Jul 06, 12:05 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

the_hero wrote:

The live version is alright... I stil can't stand the lyrics though.

"you make me feel like some kind of a cheese" I mean come on now...


Yeah that is a candidate for worst Queen lyric ever :-)

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Posted: 19 Jul 06, 12:06 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote


As a song.. IT SUCKS BIG TIME! Bad lyrics, boring, filler, almost sounds unfinished...
Makes you wonder, if Sweet Lady was on ANATO, how bad were some of the discarded songs? :)

Live, however, had few very good rock moments between roger, john and brian.

I remind you Brian's original's idea to make ANATO a double-album with its material plus the songs for ADATR.

I'm quite sure that, even the critics would place it as the best rock album ever...


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Posted: 19 Jul 06, 12:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I hate it - always have, and probably always will. That said, there is an incomplete live version on the first DVD-A (I believe) where the boys are really tearing it up during the solo. I wish I knew where that version came from.



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Posted: 19 Jul 06, 15:37 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Interesting question, seeing as this song is often mentioned.. I used to hate it, and skip it everytime. I'm alright with it now, and I've learnt to love the vocals. Although the lyrics aren't the best around. :P


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Posted: 19 Jul 06, 18:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I see that many people dont really like this song.
But i like it alot. Its not in the LOVE catergory for me as far as QUEEN goes. But i still enjoy the track very much.
I really like the tounge-in-cheekness of the lyrics about a relationship, which is clearly not a smooth one.
I enjoy the riff very much, Roger's drumming is superb on it as well as John's base work...
I like Freddie's little ad-libs like "Oh, I Like It"...
All in all for me its a fun track.

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Posted: 19 Jul 06, 21:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Love the track. And, Niek, the bridge IS pretty bitchin'.


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Posted: 20 Jul 06, 01:46 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The lyrics are *clever*. The song is a great display of the frustration of male/female relationships. The first verse is him complaining about how she treats him, the second is her complaining about how he treats her! It's classic!

Can't you just hear some fed up wife or girlfriend saying in an exhasperated voice "you call me 'sweet'! What am I, some sort of cheese or something? You're such a jerk!" For the life of me, I can't understand why that lyric miffs so many people. It's supposed to be sort of funny, or one off. And for the record, some cheese can DEFINITELY be called 'sweet'.

And I love the recording. You can hear the room the band is in, and the instruments glued together as they play the bed tracks. You can hear the compressors pumping when the the heavy guitars come back after the bridge. The power is impressive.

The song drives with this frustrated rock power. The 3/4 signature makes it feel like it just doesn't relax, which the lyrics match wonderfully. It sounds frustrated, angry. Is it brilliant? Well, maybe not. Is it clever, and catchy? I think so. Is is powerful and unusual? Absolutely, which is why it is Queen!


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