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Posted: 25 Jul 06, 10:00 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Isnt it nice that you can reach so many artists nowadays, with emails and other stuff? Isn't that fantastic, to get direct in touch with your idol, and ain't it a thrill to get a response?

Read this and look how wonderful mister PR is treating his fans

http://www.paulrodgers-forums.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=533&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

It is tricky hum, how you can get a true response from your idols. Of course it is an illusion to think that stars can respond personal to all the fanmail they get and the way it is treated by the stars is different.
Brian has his soapbox, with the filtering before...
How sure can we be that he realy responds when he reacts? Is it him himself, or does he has a wonderful ghost writer that helps him with it?
How much does your idol realy cares for his fans?

It should be intresting to read an answer on this question.
An answer from Paul Rodgers is not needed. The thread as mentioned above shows how arrogant he is with his fans. He is not intrested in his fans at all, and he doesnt even take a little effort to make the replies (not his, but from his anwerring machine) serious.

It is about the same as he is in the stuff that he did with Queen, I mean Brian and Roger. He is not intrested at all in the queen stuff (I bet he forgot the songs now fully, the 20 per cent he knew at the tour, that is), just in a free promotion for himself.

With this behavior, this arrogance to the people, the fans, that take time to try to reach him, he also made a bad move to the integrity of Queen.
Isnt it so that (esp. Brian) gives so high up of Paul Rodgers?
If he does, then he agrees with his attitude, the arrogance of PR during the tour and with how he treats his fans?

I am sure that a lot of PR fans are hurted by this unprofessional attitude. And as long as Queen (brian) is supporting him so high, how sure can we be that they (queen-brian) is integer in how he treats his fans as well?

Perhaps is it time for good mr Brian May to bring some rest in the queen circle, with a clear statement in this

How are you so sure that you realy get a personal response? There's only one who can clear that up, I think


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Posted: 25 Jul 06, 10:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Maybe it's just me...but I don't think that fans are ever "owed" any kind of response. And when people start posting "here's what I said" and "here's what he said back" in public forums, then it becomes something about the poster, and about his/her needing validation.

But, as I said, maybe it's just me.


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Posted: 25 Jul 06, 14:57 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Too many beers on a hot summernight???)

If I as a fan feel like writing to the PERSON Brian May (or any other idol), and the guy/woman does not feel like responding to me (or to my questions) or to others, than I should not doubt directly if Brian (or my idol) does not care for its fans.

Hans really, your comments make no sense at all, and I rather advice you to just **** ** complaining or assuming about not getting 1) a response 2) a personal response when writing to Brian

Of course your response will be that you were "generalizing" regarding this topic, but it is very clear that you are tempting to doubt the way Brian is or is not responding....

Your comment/question

".... How sure can we be that he realy responds when he reacts? Is it him himself, or does he has a wonderful ghost writer that helps him with it?
How much does your idol realy cares for his fans? ...."

is just plain stupid!

In case we DO get something in response, just be happy ... BUT as brightly outlined by you, Brian (or Jen) will decide themselves to respond IF they feel like (and they have done so on many occasions).

They have been so kind to have this site online anyway!

He is not obligated to reply , nor does it imply that he has less or no appriciation towards his fans.

So please stop your insane ramblings about what you think we should be owed when writing to him (or other idols we might have) or make ASSUMPTIONS towards what he should do are if you are doubting the fact that Brian cares for his fans....

The guy gives us music. And if we recieve answers from him (or from his representatives) when writing an email, just keep the smile on your face, but do not doubt Brian as he does not care for his fans in case he does not respond (or respond personally) to our letters/emails!


Stefan

PS Hans, you can better post your comments on
www.father-abraham-and-the-smurfs.com , they probably be ALL be willing to send you a response at any time at any question





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Posted: 25 Jul 06, 16:23 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

If I was a porn star, I would personally answer every email or question any adoring female fans would have.


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Posted: 25 Jul 06, 17:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Now after some scribblings who tell me what to do and what not I think that I once repeat my question, does brian has a ghost writer or not?

If you have no idea, just say so and keep discussions about persons to the places where they belong


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Posted: 25 Jul 06, 18:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

This is like any other thread on this board - subject to other ponderings on the topic, and subject to tangents. Hey - at least it didn't turn into yet another Brian May is HAWT thread. (Yet).

I do not know the answer to your question.


There.


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Posted: 26 Jul 06, 04:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

beautifulsoup wrote:

This is like any other thread on this board - subject to other ponderings on the topic, and subject to tangents. Hey - at least it didn't turn into yet another Brian May is HAWT thread. (Yet).

I do not know the answer to your question.


There.


Right! and that's the point. I do not attack anyone, anyway, other then that I think that Paul Rodgers is taking his fans not serious.
And I dont expect an answer from any of the queenzoners in yes, it's true, brian answers his emails himself -or not-. Not many of the readers shall know the truth in that.

I think it is fair to the fans, from ANY artist or star, that they know who is realy behind the messages. So far I have no doubt in Brians' answers, but reading the behavior of people so close to him as PR, it scares me and I wonder how it works.

And as long as I keep on wondering, I shall try to find the answer, for all of your benefits.
But I do understand that some of you want to show in public that you are loyal to your stars and that you are 'shocked' when someone opens up discussions like this.
Let your personal opinion about the author and good -psychological- advises in the personal section, and let's try here to look behind the scene of fanmail



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Posted: 26 Jul 06, 06:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I met Paul Rodgers in Budapest and he was extremely gracious with the fans, even though he realized perfectly well that most (if not all) of us were Queen fans. He didn't go back to the hotel until he had given an autograph to everyone who asked.

Cheers,

V.



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Posted: 26 Jul 06, 07:31 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I heard such stories yes and that is okay of course (good PR for himself)
It still leaves the answer open about why he pretends to answer fanmail himself and appearantly isnt


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Posted: 26 Jul 06, 09:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Deleted. Would not have contributed to the discussion at hand. ;)



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Posted: 26 Jul 06, 11:26 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

S@turn wrote:

my question, does brian has a ghost writer or not?


No. No "ghost writer" for him.

Jen, the lady who is the administrator of his website, checks all the e-mail that is sent to his "public" addresses, and usually replies wherever she can, signing with her own name.

She does forward to Brian any relevant message, to which he will reply personally if and when he feels like; the answer will be signed by him, but will be forwarded through Jen anyway.

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Posted: 26 Jul 06, 12:17 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

As far as Brian's Soapbox goes, you may rest assured it's Brian himself writing there. His personal style is easily distinguished, and his rants are inimitable.

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Posted: 26 Jul 06, 13:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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I heard such stories yes and that is okay of course (good PR for himself)
It still leaves the answer open about why he pretends to answer fanmail himself and appearantly isnt


I doubt he needs to do this in order increase his PR. I doubt that is why he does it.

It might be better to take the approach Brian does in not automatically replying in a seemingly personal matter, and only replying in specific cases, but Paul's approach does not, to me, mean he doesn't care at all, just that he (or his employees) thought that an automatic response was a good thing.

I agree with those who have said that he really doesn't owe anyone anything


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Posted: 26 Jul 06, 17:27 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

S@turn wrote:

I heard such stories yes and that is okay of course (good PR for himself)
It still leaves the answer open about why he pretends to answer fanmail himself and appearantly isnt


Hans, who cares?? really, you avoided my post in the beginning probably because you assumed that you were wrong anyway ....... ?!

Take care! And improve your ENGLISH a bit after all these years (being Dutch myself, I should be able to say this to you .... Just take it as some sort of positive advice :)


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Posted: 27 Jul 06, 04:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hans - when I met Paul, he was extremely kind and I enjoyed talking to him. More than to Brian or Roger. Roger looked like "security, get rid of these fans" while Brian was very polite but in the same time you could see that he wasn't much interested in any taling, he was signing stuff and in the same time thinking about his dinner or something. (I don't blame him at all, he must have got tired by all the requests for autographs).

But in the same time I sort of agree with you. The "stars" don't owe us anything - but if they establish an email address and invite fans to write to them, then it's obvious that we're disappointed if intelligent questions remain unanswered (laziness!) or if they use some automatic reply (mega-laziness!).

Difficult to judge if I'd rather receive an automatic reply from Paul or no reply at all from Brian.

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Posted: 27 Jul 06, 05:51 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

-.-stretches for a new day--
Intresting how this topic here is developing, I must honestly thank the people who give a positive contribution.

And if anyone has problems with my english, I appologize. I am convinced that who wants to understand the points is able to reply constructive as well.

If I skip the personal frustrations (please do that in another topic, keep it clean here), then there is a bit to say.

Gnomo and Fireplace, I am familiar with the way that Brian gets his emails, but that still is not convincing me that it is Brian who answers all his emails himself. Professional ghostwriters are hired to respond in the style of the artist and there are very good ones in it. Personally I do think that Brian replies himself, and I think it is a little effort for him to say that it is true.
Jen is doing a good job in her filtering of messages, I love her and I love her style of working, she knows that as well.

And Oberon, I understand what you say, that it is not important (for you and some others) if the responses are 'true' or not. Most fans don't mind, and I think that most fans even dont WANT TO KNOW that the response that they get is from another then from their idols. That is normal and when you know a bit how the showbis world works you know that it is as well very normal that the stars do not response personally, they have better things to do :)
But why do they reply then, anyway? I think that it still is to get a bit free publicity, else it should realy be a waste of time

TRS, as mentioned above I try to keep this thread pure. You ask who cares, and I know that many do care. There are sure MORE who do NOT care about it, and they are free to read this or shrug and go on with other useful work, or attack people in the personal section, if they feel like.
I think that I answerred your basic question, who cares, with .. many do care, I know it.
Not many do stand up and speak in topics. But it still can be intrtesting right, there is a difference in style between how stars reply to fans, but the basic is the same, it ia an attitude that all in the show bis have, fanmail goes through secretaries or whatever and it depends on the person (star) himself (herself) if they are so nice to now and then reply themself.

And MrScully, you hit the nail I guess, what's worth more, an unpersonal message from one, or no answer (what gives the chance that others get one) from another.
The thing is that I expect a bit of integrity, honesty, of the people. When you open up a door and let the fans in then the fans can expect somethiing in return, I guess

Well, I used too much words, and apperantly dont speak english. You used less words, probably more clear :)






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Posted: 27 Jul 06, 17:20 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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And Oberon, I understand what you say, that it is not important (for you and some others) if the responses are 'true' or not. Most fans don't mind, and I think that most fans even dont WANT TO KNOW that the response that they get is from another then from their idols. That is normal and when you know a bit how the showbis world works you know that it is as well very normal that the stars do not response personally, they have better things to do :)
But why do they reply then, anyway? I think that it still is to get a bit free publicity, else it should realy be a waste of time



Of course it's possible, but generally, no-one's gonna know, are they? It's only when us lot get together on a forum like this that it comes out, and really, will it go much further? I doubt it, so for me, the publicity reason doesn't stick. In fact if the automatic reply was widely reported, it'd be negative publicity for the very reasons you state.

I believe that PR and/or his employees just think it is nicer for fans to have "some kind of response".

It would be interesting to know if anyone received some more personal response from PR. If no one has, then that's a different matter, because as you say, why give the chance to send an email to PR if he's NEVER going to reply personally.

But, unless someone confirms in the positive, we will never know, unless we ask everyone in the world if they've ever emailed PR and got a personal reply from him. Not likely to be able to answer the question then, really, are we?

Given that, I like to give PR the benefit of the doubt and believe that it's not all about the publicity.


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Posted: 27 Jul 06, 18:16 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I think you type fine English Hans, you'll have to buy me a beer when I go to Germany, just so I can make sure your english is also spoken fine.


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Posted: 28 Jul 06, 02:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

heh william, your beer is cold, and if you wait a bit I drink it myself :)

And Oberon, I think that it DOES matter many more fans then that dare to speak up here. As is saide elsewhere, this matters of 'fan mail reply' are tabboo, people dont want to speak about it
The artists because they dont want to loose their good image
the fans to not loose their illusions

I can understand how you think that PR is not in an evil 'will' and I think, personally, it is very easy for him to say so and to solve this rumour.
The longer there is no reaction (and dont think his spies did not send him this thread), the more reason there is to doubt

Boys (not only PR, but as well BM and so on), it is so easy to make a one or twoliner to tell how it is real, and getting the truth to us, the fans, who write and have the right to know!






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Posted: 28 Jul 06, 04:42 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Hey everyone how are we all?

Just thought I might add my piece to this topic if I may.

I think the issue now is that we need to get some sort of reassurance from Brian if he is willing to address this matter. I think many of us would like to know now (after the Paul discovery)that if we have emailed in to him and it has made it through the natural level of screening (that should take place for security reasons) - that the "Brian" or "Bri" emailing us back is really Brian May - I am sure he will just laugh about it and just confirm it for us on BM soap box if he knew about this matter.

The matter with Paul does raise many questions and I hope his official site addresses this matter and may reconsider their addy for Paul's Letters section on his site. It is a little misleading. (maybe changing the clone letter to the fans to different versions may also help)

I think the Queen fans are use to Brian May.com letter set up.

Isis
PS thanks Saturn for looking into this for the fans that got a clone letter from the official PR site.