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Posted: 27 Aug 06, 08:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUzFbT5JT1M (Coltrane/Dolphy - "Impressions")
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6WwuxqXPOg (Coltrane - "Naima" (easier to listen to than "Impressions"))

Oh, and if you're a closed-minded pop-listener who isn't in for anything that isn't three-chord pop: best not look and best not respond.


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Posted: 27 Aug 06, 08:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

And then there's Afro Blue: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPleeHBOE0E


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Posted: 27 Aug 06, 09:25 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I love classic Jazz.

Now thanks to satellite radio I finally have the chance to enjoy this type of music. Before there wasn't one single station here in New York that played this type of Jazz 24/7 despite the fact that this city became a Mecca for Jazz musicians in the early 1900s.
For the past decade all FM radio stations ended up becoming mainstream followers of either adult contemporary, classic rock, alternative, country or latin.

Now I listen Classic Jazz at work, and trust me when I say that it relaxes me and helps me get through an stressful day.


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Posted: 27 Aug 06, 09:30 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Well, to be really exact, this is not what is considered "classic jazz". Classic Jazz refers to swing and bebop, while this is post-bop (Afro Blue and Naima) and even early free jazz (Impressions). However, the bottom line is that it's great music.


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Posted: 27 Aug 06, 10:01 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'd say that while music could be 'better', this is pretty sweet stuff. The kind of people I'd like to jam with.


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Posted: 27 Aug 06, 10:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Oh yeah! You'd have to die first, though. I guess that'd be well worth it though.

The pianist (McCoy Tyner) is still alive; since he isn't the guy for extremely complicated piano playing, I think Trane might be inclined to let me have a shot at filling in for him :-)

My dream-group would be something like:

John Coltrane - Tenor and Soprano Sax
Eric Dolphy - Flute, Alto Sax, Bass Clarinet
Thomas Quinn - Piano (dream on, dream on...)
Elvin Jones - Drums
Reggie Workman - Bass
Jimmy Garrison - Bass


Ah yeah, blissful dreams...


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Posted: 27 Aug 06, 12:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

- Does music get any better than this???

Yes, absolutely. Anything done with elaboration and work is better than that.

It's just a pretty easy jam, anybody who can actually play an instrument could do something like that... you just need the backing rhythm section, and that's pretty much it.

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Posted: 27 Aug 06, 15:32 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I'm not a Jazz buff, but I do enjoy the genre a lot.

Whether it's swing style like Glenn Miller, Ella Fitzgerald, or quite simply traditional instrumental, Jazz is one of the most fascinating and musically crafted genres out there.


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Posted: 27 Aug 06, 15:39 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

M a t i a s M a y<h6><i>QZ's Rainmaker wrote:

- Does music get any better than this???

Yes, absolutely. Anything done with elaboration and work is better than that.

It's just a pretty easy jam, anybody who can actually play an instrument could do something like that... you just need the backing rhythm section, and that's pretty much it.

Cheers


Although I initially wanted to say I wouldn't dignify this post with a reply, I changed my mind, as that itself would be a reply. And since I've already said this much, I might as well reply.

Please, don't talk crap about something you know nothing about. Improvising in pentatonic scales with a rock band is much different and much less complicated than jazz improv. Jazz is the hardest musical genre to fully understand, because it breaks all the rules - yet it sounds musical. Admit it... Jazz is WAY over your head.

You've been making musically arrogant posts like this for many months now. Tell me, who are your top five musical influences? How close are you to understanding what they were all about? From this I can maybe get a decent understanding of where you are right now on your musical journey.



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Posted: 27 Aug 06, 15:52 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

M a t i a s M a y<h6><i>QZ's Rainmaker wrote:

- Does music get any better than this???

Yes, absolutely. Anything done with elaboration and work is better than that.

It's just a pretty easy jam, anybody who can actually play an instrument could do something like that... you just need the backing rhythm section, and that's pretty much it.

Cheers


Although I initially wanted to say I wouldn't dignify this post with a reply, I changed my mind, as that itself would be a reply. And since I've already said this much, I might as well reply.

Please, don't talk crap about something you know nothing about. Improvising in pentatonic scales with a rock band is much different and much less complicated than jazz improv. Jazz is the hardest musical genre to fully understand, because it breaks all the rules - yet it sounds musical. Admit it... Jazz is WAY over your head.


I'll admit to that, and proudly!! While I love music that is vocally complicated (since I'm a vocalist by training and experience and so that's primarily what I'm listening for in any type of music...the lead voice if it's not a vocalist), I just can't focus on jazz. I generally need music or something around to help me think while I'm doing other things, and I can't do that with jazz. I might like it more if I had more knowledge of music theory, but I got short-changed on that in my acadmic career as yet.
That being said...I did appreciate the links for what they were. :-) Excellent stuff musically. Just because I didn't understand what they were doing doesn't mean it wasn't good.
Thanks for the links, Caspar


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Posted: 27 Aug 06, 16:48 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Sir GH<br><h6>ah yeah</h6> wrote:

M a t i a s M a y<h6><i>QZ's Rainmaker wrote:

- Does music get any better than this???

Yes, absolutely. Anything done with elaboration and work is better than that.

It's just a pretty easy jam, anybody who can actually play an instrument could do something like that... you just need the backing rhythm section, and that's pretty much it.

Cheers


Although I initially wanted to say I wouldn't dignify this post with a reply, I changed my mind, as that itself would be a reply. And since I've already said this much, I might as well reply.

Please, don't talk crap about something you know nothing about. Improvising in pentatonic scales with a rock band is much different and much less complicated than jazz improv. Jazz is the hardest musical genre to fully understand, because it breaks all the rules - yet it sounds musical. Admit it... Jazz is WAY over your head.

You've been making musically arrogant posts like this for many months now. Tell me, who are your top five musical influences? How close are you to understanding what they were all about? From this I can maybe get a decent understanding of where you are right now on your musical journey.


^---Nothing but the truth. Jazz is an amazing genre. Glad to see fans of it around here. :)

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Posted: 28 Aug 06, 00:49 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

You guys should really get into DEVO


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Posted: 28 Aug 06, 05:50 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Whip it.

Ok, to address the above stuff Matias and Sir GH are on about -

Jazz is something you can almost 'fake', doing bastardized little jazz runs that one might've picked up here and there. But to be really, *really* good at it, you have to be a pretty damn flexible musician. I'd rate it just as tricky, if not trickier to understand than all that neo-classical stuff.

I can't really keep up with the crazy chords one usually finds in jazz, but I can usually figure out something sweet with the bass, or pretty rudimentary little solos (the kind you play if you've got an Epiphone Casino. Haha).


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Posted: 28 Aug 06, 05:54 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Not bad! Thanks for the links.


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Posted: 28 Aug 06, 05:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

I enjoyed that. I was expecting not to but just shut my brain up and listened.


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Posted: 28 Aug 06, 08:56 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

Coltrane is the man, a genius, his jazz is simply amazin, i love his later albums, full of experimentation, also check some Alice Coltrane, deep music. And the great Kind of Blue, one of the greatest ever, Miles, Freddie, John together

Does music get any better than this??? I don't think so, yeah!


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Posted: 28 Aug 06, 08:59 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

M a t i a s M a y<h6><i>QZ's Rainmaker wrote:

- Does music get any better than this???

Yes, absolutely. Anything done with elaboration and work is better than that.

It's just a pretty easy jam, anybody who can actually play an instrument could do something like that... you just need the backing rhythm section, and that's pretty much it.

Cheers


Are u serious?, well when you recorded somethin like "A love supreme", "Ascension", "Interstellar Space" give me a call, you can't go wrong with Mr Coltrane, he's not May for sure, so he's far away form him


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Posted: 28 Aug 06, 09:09 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

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M a t i a s M a y<h6><i>QZ's Rainmaker wrote:

- Does music get any better than this???

Yes, absolutely. Anything done with elaboration and work is better than that.

It's just a pretty easy jam, anybody who can actually play an instrument could do something like that... you just need the backing rhythm section, and that's pretty much it.

Cheers


Are u serious?, well when you recorded somethin like "A love supreme", "Ascension", "Interstellar Space" give me a call, you can't go wrong with Mr Coltrane, he's not May for sure, so he's far away form him


Finally! Someone who also appreciates 'Ascension'! Thank heavens they are still around! I take it you enjoy Kulu Se Mama, Meditations (The Father, The Son and The Holy Ghost most especially) and Sun Ship as well?


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Posted: 28 Aug 06, 09:10 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

M a t i a s M a y<h6><i>QZ's Rainmaker wrote:

- Does music get any better than this???

Yes, absolutely. Anything done with elaboration and work is better than that.

It's just a pretty easy jam, anybody who can actually play an instrument could do something like that... you just need the backing rhythm section, and that's pretty much it.

Cheers


Had you not made it painfully obvious by means of your post that you know absolutely NOTHING about music, I would have had to attack you most fiercely about this. However, that is not the case, as you yourself deserve all the credit for tackling your post.


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Posted: 28 Aug 06, 09:13 Edit this post Reply to this post Reply with Quote

The Artist Formerly Known As Paul JR wrote:

You guys should really get into DEVO


Why should we get into a crappy band that is only remembered for silly hats and a one hit wonder about masturbation.


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